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onecaliberal

(32,831 posts)
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 09:58 AM Sep 2020

Why are republican justices at RBGs memorial?

Why are they talking about her legacy? They can’t wait to go back to work and undo her entire life’s work. Talking about how she faced discrimination in law school is such hypocrisy. I just can’t with these people. The media doesn’t have enough brains to memorialize her without soiling the entire thing, I feel sick.

Here is what Justice Ginsburg said just before she passed away: "My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed."

The people who supposedly love and respect her, would respect her final
Wishes. Full stop!

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Why are republican justices at RBGs memorial? (Original Post) onecaliberal Sep 2020 OP
I fully agree here! bluestarone Sep 2020 #1
I'd go to a memorial of a coworker jimfields33 Sep 2020 #16
you can respect your opponents and I would have been shocked if they weren;t there beachbumbob Sep 2020 #2
yup, you can respect someone even if you disagree with them Amishman Sep 2020 #4
What they're doing isn't disagreeable. It's an abomination. onecaliberal Sep 2020 #14
we all have our opinions beachbumbob Sep 2020 #17
no, it is not RazzleCat Sep 2020 #18
When you respect people you don't shit all over their life's work and undo it the first chance you onecaliberal Sep 2020 #28
That would work both ways treestar Sep 2020 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author Amishman Sep 2020 #5
Chump is planning on showing up at some point. My fantasy is that her bullwinkle428 Sep 2020 #3
I hope he trips and falls down the steps... 2naSalit Sep 2020 #20
on live TV demtenjeep Sep 2020 #31
And top it off with... 2naSalit Sep 2020 #32
Let it rest. She was good friends with Scalia. Maybe others, too. LakeArenal Sep 2020 #6
Ruth Bader-Ginsburg PatSeg Sep 2020 #19
She certainly WAS a political person JI7 Sep 2020 #34
I don't think she would have ever put politics PatSeg Sep 2020 #41
This! n/t MFGsunny Sep 2020 #44
❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️ Lucinda Sep 2020 #56
They are still friends. However, Rice4VP Sep 2020 #7
There are personal friendships on the Court that transcend politics DavidDvorkin Sep 2020 #8
My wish is that a dry Polly Hennessey Sep 2020 #9
If they were not there, it would be a disgrace. Mike 03 Sep 2020 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Democracy2020 Sep 2020 #11
I agree, when you work closely with a small group like that it takes to much energy to hate them. redstatebluegirl Sep 2020 #22
Final words and wished disregarded is not respect. onecaliberal Sep 2020 #30
Has a single justice commented on replacing her? Ms. Toad Sep 2020 #37
As soon as they can vote to overturn Roe they will. onecaliberal Sep 2020 #43
You obviously have not worked in an appellate court Ms. Toad Sep 2020 #47
We will see when they install another puppet. onecaliberal Sep 2020 #48
"They" - i.e. the justices - can't install anyone. Ms. Toad Sep 2020 #49
I've seen interviews of the Justices and they genuinely seem to personally like each other In It to Win It Sep 2020 #12
"The media doesn't have enough brains to memorialize her without soiling the entire thing" brooklynite Sep 2020 #13
They should show it WITHOUT talking. onecaliberal Sep 2020 #15
Why did Justice Ginsburg eulogize Justice Scalia? n/t sl8 Sep 2020 #21
Because in polite society it is possible to be friends without agreeing on everything. redstatebluegirl Sep 2020 #24
She would want them there, IMO. cry baby Sep 2020 #23
Just a reminder that Brett Kavanaugh and his drunk buddy pushed a 15 year old girl greenjar_01 Sep 2020 #25
Their views not their actions treestar Sep 2020 #52
It's possible to be on opposing sides without hatred. nolabear Sep 2020 #26
You do realize who RGB's best friend was don't you? Polybius Sep 2020 #27
They knew her well and loved her so much now excuse me while they go undo her entire legacy and onecaliberal Sep 2020 #29
So what if they disagree with her? Polybius Sep 2020 #33
When you respect people you don't seek to undo their life's work 5 minutes after they are dead. onecaliberal Sep 2020 #42
It's time to give this thread a rest Polybius Sep 2020 #45
Sorry, not sorry. Maybe that is how you treat people you "love" and respect but I do not. onecaliberal Sep 2020 #46
You should be sorry, and it's baffling that you're not Polybius Sep 2020 #53
She had no ability to undo his legacy. Stop acting like it's the same it's NOT. onecaliberal Sep 2020 #54
Going to a funeral is the same Polybius Sep 2020 #55
For the same reason that Justice Ginsburg attended, and spoke at, Scalia's memorial service. onenote Sep 2020 #35
The Supreme Court is the last bastion where... Xolodno Sep 2020 #36
How immature. hardluck Sep 2020 #38
Best not to let Kavanaugh attend the wake...you know what he's like when tanked.... OnDoutside Sep 2020 #39
perhaps some are there uriel1972 Sep 2020 #40
That's the way it should be aikoaiko Sep 2020 #50

bluestarone

(16,917 posts)
1. I fully agree here!
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:01 AM
Sep 2020

They make statements about how great a lady she was. THEN now they want to install a person of the complete OPPOSITE? Give me a fucking break!

jimfields33

(15,786 posts)
16. I'd go to a memorial of a coworker
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:29 AM
Sep 2020

Even if I wasn’t besties. It’s the right thing to do. The liberal justices were all at scalia’s funeral. Just something people do.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
2. you can respect your opponents and I would have been shocked if they weren;t there
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:01 AM
Sep 2020

- remember BOTH sides think they are correct on their stances

Amishman

(5,556 posts)
4. yup, you can respect someone even if you disagree with them
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:06 AM
Sep 2020

and they worked together and agreed on many issues. Not every case is 5-4, they agreed as often as they disagreed.

onecaliberal

(32,831 posts)
14. What they're doing isn't disagreeable. It's an abomination.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:20 AM
Sep 2020

It is morally and ethically bankrupt. It’s a ducking show to these people. So no.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
17. we all have our opinions
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:31 AM
Sep 2020

but one's ideological opponent can still voice praise of the other at a memorial and to me is a sign of respect. If Scalia was alive today, he probably would offer some deep emotional testimony on the goodness of Ginsberg from firsthand knowledge.. Thats is respect

RazzleCat

(732 posts)
18. no, it is not
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:36 AM
Sep 2020

it is a sign of respect. You can disagree with others yet respect them, as everyone else has said. What I am going to add is that not all Republicans are Trump Republicans, many are people who hold different views, but not Trumps, think of the republicans who created the Lincoln Project. Do I disagree with many of their political opinions, yes I do, but they also see Trump as an aberration, a danger to our country. You can be conservative and not a horrible person. Just a person I disagree with.

onecaliberal

(32,831 posts)
28. When you respect people you don't shit all over their life's work and undo it the first chance you
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:03 PM
Sep 2020

Get.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
51. That would work both ways
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:30 PM
Sep 2020

Surely we want justices that will undo the life's work of some republicans, like Citizens United.

Response to beachbumbob (Reply #2)

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
3. Chump is planning on showing up at some point. My fantasy is that her
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:04 AM
Sep 2020

granddaughter will be there to seriously kick him in the nads!

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
6. Let it rest. She was good friends with Scalia. Maybe others, too.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:08 AM
Sep 2020

We need to start looking at Repukes as RBG did.


The Ginsburg-Scalia Act Was Not a Farce
There is a lot for us to learn, not just from their friendship, but from their intellectual combat.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/09/22/opinion/ruth-bader-ginsburg-antonin-scalia.amp.html

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
19. Ruth Bader-Ginsburg
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:36 AM
Sep 2020

was not necessarily a political person. Her decisions were based on her interpretation of the law, they just happened to often become political issues. She believed in equality, which shouldn't be a political point of view. It is a human point of view.

PatSeg

(47,418 posts)
41. I don't think she would have ever put politics
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 09:50 AM
Sep 2020

before the law. She was a jurist first and foremost.

DavidDvorkin

(19,473 posts)
8. There are personal friendships on the Court that transcend politics
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:08 AM
Sep 2020

RBG herself gave a eulogy at Scalia's funeral. They were good friends. I think they actually dated briefly in college.

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
22. I agree, when you work closely with a small group like that it takes to much energy to hate them.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:23 AM
Sep 2020

You become close, even with those you don't agree with. You know their families and what is important to them. I also believe that at this judicial level it is possible to respect someone as a brilliant jurist without agreeing with their interpretation of the law. If only the country could be like this right now.

onecaliberal

(32,831 posts)
30. Final words and wished disregarded is not respect.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 07:32 PM
Sep 2020

Here is what Justice Ginsburg said just before she passed away: "My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed."

onecaliberal

(32,831 posts)
43. As soon as they can vote to overturn Roe they will.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 10:51 AM
Sep 2020

They’re also going to install dump to the presidency even though he is going to lose in a tidal wave.

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
47. You obviously have not worked in an appellate court
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 04:39 PM
Sep 2020

and your anger is misdirected. They are mourning a friend and colleague - and I am confident Ginsburg would have wanted them there.

onecaliberal

(32,831 posts)
48. We will see when they install another puppet.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:27 PM
Sep 2020

We have dismissed Republican actions straight to authoritarianism.

Ms. Toad

(34,066 posts)
49. "They" - i.e. the justices - can't install anyone.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:25 PM
Sep 2020

Which has been my point. You are directing your anger at people who are grieving, going so far as to suggest that they have no right to grieve becuase they are about to install a puppet, when they have no power to do what you suggest they are about to do.

As I said in the beginning - your anger is misdirected.

In It to Win It

(8,243 posts)
12. I've seen interviews of the Justices and they genuinely seem to personally like each other
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:16 AM
Sep 2020

They don't let their work, political opinions or legal philosophies get it the way of their personal opinions of each others. They all seem to genuinely enjoy working together.

brooklynite

(94,510 posts)
13. "The media doesn't have enough brains to memorialize her without soiling the entire thing"
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:18 AM
Sep 2020

Are you saying that the media should choose not to show parts of the memorial service?

onecaliberal

(32,831 posts)
15. They should show it WITHOUT talking.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 10:22 AM
Sep 2020

Interjecting how trump is going to announce her replacement on Saturday.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
24. Because in polite society it is possible to be friends without agreeing on everything.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:27 AM
Sep 2020

We have lost that. I did the eulogy for my friend who was the President of the Campus Republicans when I was President of the Campus Democrats. He and I disagreed about almost every policy, but we respected each other, yes that is possible. When he died a couple of years ago his wife called me and asked me to do this for him and I said of course.

I think they both Justice Ginsburg and Justice Scalia respected each others minds. They also shared a great love of the opera. I know it doesn't seem so right now, but it is possible to be civil and disagree.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
25. Just a reminder that Brett Kavanaugh and his drunk buddy pushed a 15 year old girl
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:29 AM
Sep 2020

into a bedroom, closed and barred the door, pushed her on to a bed, and tried to rape her.

"YoU cAn ReSpEcT yOuR oPpOnEnTs derp derp derp."

treestar

(82,383 posts)
52. Their views not their actions
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 07:35 PM
Sep 2020

One could disrespect Kavanaugh for those actions. But one who did not have those actions in their history, but similar views, could be respected.

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
26. It's possible to be on opposing sides without hatred.
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 11:30 AM
Sep 2020

I know it seems odd in these currently insane times but they should be above the partisan madness.

Polybius

(15,390 posts)
27. You do realize who RGB's best friend was don't you?
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 12:22 PM
Sep 2020

It was Antonin Scalia. This shows me that she was well-liked and got along with everybody. They have every right to be there, they knew her well.

onecaliberal

(32,831 posts)
29. They knew her well and loved her so much now excuse me while they go undo her entire legacy and
Wed Sep 23, 2020, 04:05 PM
Sep 2020

Life’s work. Screw that bullshit.

Polybius

(15,390 posts)
33. So what if they disagree with her?
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 01:13 AM
Sep 2020

That doesn't mean they didn't respect and love her.

Imagine if a Republican said in 2016 about RGB and the other liberals at Scalia's funeral: "They knew him well and loved him so much now excuse me while they go undo his entire legacy and life’s work. Screw that bullshit."

Polybius

(15,390 posts)
45. It's time to give this thread a rest
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 11:20 AM
Sep 2020

Everyone is disagreeing with you. Hypocrisy is a bad thing to openly be proud of. You can’t have one standard for Scalia’s funeral and another for RBG’s.

onecaliberal

(32,831 posts)
46. Sorry, not sorry. Maybe that is how you treat people you "love" and respect but I do not.
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 12:11 PM
Sep 2020

I guess we should just forgive everything going on because dump says he loves America too./

Polybius

(15,390 posts)
53. You should be sorry, and it's baffling that you're not
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 01:00 AM
Sep 2020

They have every right to be there RGB loved Scalia the person. Was she disrespecting him by going against his legacy? Can't have your cake and eat it too. They had every right to be there.

onecaliberal

(32,831 posts)
54. She had no ability to undo his legacy. Stop acting like it's the same it's NOT.
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 01:06 AM
Sep 2020

I’m not sorry. I’m out of fucks to give. These people support stripping every law that has helped the least of us progress in this country for the last 75 years. You can pretend these people are respectable all you’d like, but I Will NOT.

Polybius

(15,390 posts)
55. Going to a funeral is the same
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 01:19 AM
Sep 2020

You were saying that by the conservative Justices going to her funeral, they were disrespecting her because they vote differently than her. Preposterous nonsense. In their mind they think we are activists for deciding abortion and gay marriage are protected, suddenly after two centuries. I don't agree with them on that at all, but that's how they believe the court works. We believe differently. They can be BFF's, and they were.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
36. The Supreme Court is the last bastion where...
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 01:29 AM
Sep 2020

...you can disagree, but still be good friends with each other. A professional courtesy, where you can acknowledge you were on the right or wrong side, without major repercussions.

Moscow Mitch is trying to eliminate that. He's politicizing an institution that was set up to be void of politics as much as possible.

uriel1972

(4,261 posts)
40. perhaps some are there
Thu Sep 24, 2020, 06:22 AM
Sep 2020

out of respect, perhaps some are there because it gors with job and perhaps some were there to gloat.

I would have been surprised if they hadn't turned up. Not that I have much time for those who have wrought such harm to so many.

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