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White House Confirms The Senate Doesn't Have Enough Time To Confirm Trump's SCOTUS Nominee Before El (Original Post) Gothmog Sep 2020 OP
It threatens several Republican Senators that are in close races. kentuck Sep 2020 #1
They will dangle the carrot. Zoonart Sep 2020 #2
+1, uponit7771 Sep 2020 #6
Yep, we should just assume a Trump nominee will fill the seat. gulliver Sep 2020 #12
If they do, every Republican Senator who votes for such an illegitimate BadgerMom Sep 2020 #31
They should be met with that anyway SlogginThroughIt Sep 2020 #40
No one is talking about the lame duck session, and nominating a justice then. Eyeball_Kid Sep 2020 #3
The newly elected 117th Congress is seated Jan 3, 2021 Klaralven Sep 2020 #7
They will try during the lame duck period DIVINEprividence Sep 2020 #4
Yep. They will try to burn the place down if they become lame ducks. Generic Brad Sep 2020 #13
If they try during lame duck Dems. & MSM, must do whatever they can to dig up dirt on these onetexan Sep 2020 #28
I think this is good news, relatively speaking. Mike 03 Sep 2020 #5
Agree. ananda Sep 2020 #22
True on all counts, but Moscow Mitch cares about none of that groundloop Sep 2020 #38
Keep the eye on the prize . . Iliyah Sep 2020 #8
Do not let them disarm you. Baitball Blogger Sep 2020 #9
The White House cannot be trusted. Guilded Lilly Sep 2020 #10
Only if they follow normal practices Renew Deal Sep 2020 #11
I personally wouldn't trust anything from "PoliticusUSA"... regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #14
So what? They have until midnight 12.31 to confirm another fascist to the court. Voltaire2 Sep 2020 #15
They will wait until the election. If the Democrats win the Senate, marie999 Sep 2020 #16
That's the scariest thing... moose65 Sep 2020 #18
Oh I think things will get a lot scarier between now and Jan 20, 2021. marie999 Sep 2020 #39
"White House confirms" moondust Sep 2020 #17
It took less than an hour before dictator in chief announced otherwise. niyad Sep 2020 #19
He could announce his nominee before the election, but confirmation wouldn't happen until after. n/t thesquanderer Sep 2020 #25
Both of them look like aliens Laha Sep 2020 #20
In addition I think he looks in the xxqqqzme Sep 2020 #29
Which is it? kentuck Sep 2020 #21
His tweets mean nothing. llmart Sep 2020 #24
How about a mourning period SammyBrown Sep 2020 #23
The average may be 70 xxqqqzme Sep 2020 #26
They'll dangle this opening before Roe v. Wade evangelicals... SMC22307 Sep 2020 #27
Trust Republicans at your peril. dalton99a Sep 2020 #30
KNR Lucinda Sep 2020 #32
Then my fears are for after the election duhneece Sep 2020 #33
What if Traildogbob Sep 2020 #34
A Trump Supreme Court means NO LIVES MATTER bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #35
Imagine if we had even 4 repub senators who said NO RANDYWILDMAN Sep 2020 #36
RBG's body wasn't even cold before the WH researched whether the appointment LastLiberal in PalmSprings Sep 2020 #37

kentuck

(111,051 posts)
1. It threatens several Republican Senators that are in close races.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:49 AM
Sep 2020

They cannot afford to gamble with their voters at this time.

They will want to wait and see how the wash comes out?

Zoonart

(11,828 posts)
2. They will dangle the carrot.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:50 AM
Sep 2020

Push the plunger in the lame duck.

Trump is entirely transactional... if the horse gets the carrot before the election.... why does the religious right need to vote for him?
He would have delivered their ultimate objective and they would no longer have to vote against the best interests to achieve the court.

gulliver

(13,168 posts)
12. Yep, we should just assume a Trump nominee will fill the seat.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:15 AM
Sep 2020

And concentrate on the election and afterward.

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
31. If they do, every Republican Senator who votes for such an illegitimate
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:31 PM
Sep 2020

nominee must be met at their next reelection bid with an unprecedented wave of opposing money and volunteers. We should start an organization a la Indivisible to thwart them. This isn’t petty. This is about our democracy and our Constitution and defending them.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
3. No one is talking about the lame duck session, and nominating a justice then.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:52 AM
Sep 2020

Even if Biden wins, McConnell and Trump have over two months to stir the pot. It's over 75 days between November 4 and January 20.

Assume nothing.

President Pennywise is at the helm.

 

Klaralven

(7,510 posts)
7. The newly elected 117th Congress is seated Jan 3, 2021
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:59 AM
Sep 2020

Due to Thanksgiving and Christmas recesses, there are 5 weeks in session on the current calendar between 11/4/20 and 1/3/21.

The new Congress has to be formed before the inauguration of the president because they ratify and count the electoral college votes submitted by each state.

 

DIVINEprividence

(443 posts)
4. They will try during the lame duck period
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:54 AM
Sep 2020

Winning isn’t enough. We need a landslide. This is going to be rocket fuel for Dem turnout. Any move they make after that will be seen as illegitimate giving Democrats political cover to pack the courts

Generic Brad

(14,272 posts)
13. Yep. They will try to burn the place down if they become lame ducks.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:18 AM
Sep 2020

We've seen them do things like that in Wisconsin and a few other states. The playbook was already written by the Russians and executed on the state level as a run up to the possibility of them losing power at the national level.

onetexan

(13,019 posts)
28. If they try during lame duck Dems. & MSM, must do whatever they can to dig up dirt on these
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:24 PM
Sep 2020

candidates to stall till Biden is sworn in. We must not let this happen!!

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
5. I think this is good news, relatively speaking.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:55 AM
Sep 2020

At least we can focus on the election, and with so much at stake, it could help mobilize people, hopefully more of ours than theirs.

Just psychologically, ramming a justice through now would be so distracting and crippling.

Also, a lame-duck confirmation is just an unprecedented disgrace, and maybe we can undo it assuming we win. Or maybe post-election some of the GOP will lose the will to fight so hard.

groundloop

(11,513 posts)
38. True on all counts, but Moscow Mitch cares about none of that
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:11 PM
Sep 2020

The big prize for GOPers is absolute control of the Supreme Court, all norms or rules (even Moscow Mitch's own made-up rules) be damned. They'll gladly take the heat for a few weeks if it means capturing the Supreme Court.

And what's even worse is that they'll spend precious time on this rather than doing anything to help Americans through the pandemic.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
8. Keep the eye on the prize . .
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:59 AM
Sep 2020

they are trying to steal the election again across board. We must come out and vote bigly.

Baitball Blogger

(46,676 posts)
9. Do not let them disarm you.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:00 AM
Sep 2020

They can still go scorched earth if they lose badly. But they will have to start now, which means that they will lose many of their Senate races. It's a crap shoot.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
14. I personally wouldn't trust anything from "PoliticusUSA"...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:19 AM
Sep 2020

...which seems to me little more than a Breitbart-of-the-left.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
16. They will wait until the election. If the Democrats win the Senate,
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:41 AM
Sep 2020

the Republicans will vote for a new Justice before the end of the year.

moose65

(3,166 posts)
18. That's the scariest thing...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:34 AM
Sep 2020

And I'm pretty sure this has never happened in this country's history: a defeated president nominates a Supreme Court justice who is then confirmed by Senators who have also lost their elections. I can't wrap my head around that scenario.

thesquanderer

(11,970 posts)
25. He could announce his nominee before the election, but confirmation wouldn't happen until after. n/t
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:13 PM
Sep 2020

Last edited Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:28 PM - Edit history (1)

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Laha

(407 posts)
20. Both of them look like aliens
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:02 PM
Sep 2020

With human suits that don't fit properly. I'm not one to disparage the appearance of others, but with all the money and resources at their disposal I don't understand why they look so damned creepy. Especially dRumpf with his tendency for narcissistic self-exposure. Can he possibly look in a mirror and think, 'that looks good.'?

Probably a dumb question. Obviously yes.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
29. In addition I think he looks in the
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:24 PM
Sep 2020

mirror and sees his 40 yr old self. He talks about seniors as if he isn't one. He is 74, obese, has a lousy diet, thinks exercise shortens his life and is getting increasingly paranoid. He thinks he has 12 years to be president? If he is this unhinged at 74, he'll be drooling in a corner by 86, if he lives that long!

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
26. The average may be 70
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:17 PM
Sep 2020

days but I do not trust king con or moscow mitch. They will do anything to stay in power. I don't trust this announcement 'from the White House'. Lying sneaky bastards. You can bet they are working non-stop to find a way to get a nominee in Ruth Ginsberg's seat.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
27. They'll dangle this opening before Roe v. Wade evangelicals...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:24 PM
Sep 2020

and turnout will be through the roof. Democrats, left-leaning indies, sane Republicans, young people, POC, etc. HAVE GOT TO VOTE.

Traildogbob

(8,670 posts)
34. What if
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:45 PM
Sep 2020

Trump loses. Appoints a fool like Cotton, Cruz or god forbid Barr, and after Jan 2021 he gets convicted of all his shit during presidency, can his appointee be recalled?
What a shithole country. The biggest lying criminal in the country steals presidency, appoints a criminal hack like Barr to head all law enforcement, and appoints 3 justices for life, during four years of criminality. A joke to the entire world. A disgraceful ignorant nation. Yet we want to invade countries and bring them our democracy.
Murdock, you win. You fucked another country. All that money will not go with you to hell, unless it is used to stoke the flames.

bucolic_frolic

(43,027 posts)
35. A Trump Supreme Court means NO LIVES MATTER
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:47 PM
Sep 2020

The end of civil rights, the Bill of Rights, regulation of air and water ... you are toast in Trump's America.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,663 posts)
36. Imagine if we had even 4 repub senators who said NO
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 12:51 PM
Sep 2020

even during a lame duck session, just said NO I won't vote on a new SC judge until our new president is sworn in. That MIGHT show that the repub party had a little integrity, they don't and they WON"T do it, but they should.

37. RBG's body wasn't even cold before the WH researched whether the appointment
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 01:04 PM
Sep 2020

can be made before the election.Ted Cruz wasn't even subtle about it. He wants the seat filled by Friday -- with himself, of course.

The Repugs needed be not concerned. They still have their majority on the SCOTUS. They just want a permanent unbreakable majority for the next 30-40 years. We are so fucked as a country. All progressive programs will be eliminated (did you see how easy it was to destroy the Voting Rights Act?) and all their worst angels will be flying everywhere. We'll be a Christian nation, starting each day with a reading from the Bible and the Lord's prayer. In fact, that's the way it was when I attended Robert E.Lee High School in Montgomery, Alabama, in the mid-60s. We didn't go so far as to have classes on American patriotism jammed down our throats.

Remember how loudly they screamed that any replacement for Scalia had to share his judicial philosophy? Yeah, that went the way of "No appointment until after the election."

If Trump wins, we're leaving the country. I'm 71 and I don't want to spend my "Golden Years" watching my country literally be destroyed by the worst people in the world.

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