Yes this is politics related - Big 10 football in October

[underpants]

Trump has been promoting this for a while now. Expect him to take credit for it. Big medicine in Michigan Ohio Wisconsin Pennsylvania and Minnesota

Sources: Big Ten to announce October return to college football


The Big Ten is expected to announce on Wednesday a return to football in October, sources confirmed to ESPN.

The news was first reported by the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel.

The Big Ten on Aug. 11 postponed all fall sports seasons, including football, because of concerns about the pandemic. The league's presidents and chancellors voted 11-3 to postpone, with only Nebraska, Ohio State and Iowa electing to proceed. A vote to play a fall season would require at least 60% of the presidents and chancellors (nine or more).



https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29897305/sources-big-ten-announce-october-return

[former9thward]

1. It never shouid have been canceled.

The conferences which have returned to sports are doing just fine. It is outdoor activity and the players are tested. Europe returned to sports a long time ago without problems. These young men should not be deprived of potential careers for no reason. i am glad to see it.

[USALiberal]

9. LOL, ok! nt

[JT45242]

11. So full of misinformation

1. The other schools that are playing football have had horrific outbreaks (see Clemson). They are just counting on the fat that these athletes are young enough that they will survive the initial disease and that the heart damage will kill them long after they are out of school. (See Dabo Sweeney's comments from earlier this week)
2. Almost all lineman are at high risk because of obesity and prediabetic conditions for major long term complications.Also ignoring possible risks of sickle cell, enlarged hearts common in large athletes, neurological problems caused by concussions, etc.
3. "Deprived of potential careers" -- stop drinking the kool aid. As of this week there are 253 players in the NFL from Big Ten schools (overwhelmingly from the top programs Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin). Some have been in the league for over 10 years. Given 14 teams of 90 players every year for over 10 years (even if you say only 25% use up eligibility that is fewer than 10%. Most of these guys will never even get a cup of coffee in the NFL. They are there to trade playing football for an education. That is where their careers lie. I work with a former Iowa player. He got a business degree and is in our HR department. That is his career.
4. No one know the long term effects on all the organ systems that Covid atacks. Neurologoical symptoms have been documented at least 6 months after being virus free in a study published this week. How will that add on to CTE? We don;t know and are playing russian roulette with the neurological functioning of these young men.
5. This is the least safe outdoor sport. They spend more time close to each other. They hit each other hard -- sroplets and spit fly all over the place. They are close to each other for long periods of time (think of how much time lineman are face to face especially in these line up quick no huddle call everything at the line of scrimmage offenses. Huddles fon't separate them.

Let's be honest about this. There are two reasons for this.
1. The Big 10 coaches are afraid that if they don't play that the SEC will get every playoff slot and that the coverage will make it difficult for them to recruit. They already feel like they are fighting the entire power of ESecPN since it signed a HUGE contract with the SEC that it promotes the SEC 24/7/365 and even gave the SEC's biggest shill a TV show and a radio show to promote the SEC every day. Some of them have the backing of enough boosters to scare university presidents.
2. The financial department said -- we need this or we are in big trouble. Ad revenue from the Big 10 network is down. We lost March madness. We are still paying coaches a gazillion dollars and scholarships for non revenue sports. We need money and we need it now.

Of course it is probably a mix of one and two.

But don't say it is safe or that most of these guys will get a career in football because neither of those things are true.

[The Magistrate]

13. Well Said, Sir, And Quite Helpful

[Spazito]

16. +1

[yonder]

17. +1.

[former9thward]

34. How do you think the "former Iowa player" got his degree?

From a full ride scholarship to Iowa. I said career not the NFL. So don't distort things. As far as the rest of your post it is full of speculation. If playing sports is so terrible why aren't Democratic governors and mayors stopping it? They have the full power to do so.

[JT45242]

43. Look at the pac 12

Two states did shut it down.

States are also desperate for revenue.

[uponit7771]

36. yep

[smirkymonkey]

42. +1000

[davsand]

19. When you argue for "football now" do you think the college towns should be sentenced to death?

Yeah, I understand that the crowds at the stadiums will be "limited" along with tailgates, but are you paying ANY attention to the impact on the towns who will get invaded with the fans? WE who live in those host towns are also in the line to be exposed to COVID, and we don't have any say about it. It isn't just a matter of testing those student athletes with a rapid test, what about everybody that works for a living in that town and is exposed to fans running in and out for the game.

I had to be tested after a workplace exposure, and it took five days to get results. How many people do you think get exposed after the fans leave by just one waitress or bartender in five days? How about a clerk in the gas station or in the mall? The rest of us that are not college athletes have to live in these communities, and we don't have access to those "wonderful" magic tests that are supposed to keep this exercise in commercialism a safe gamble.

Seriously, I don't think you have any idea what a shitshow football game weekends really are like when it comes to the drunken assholes running around. This bring back football shit is a death sentence.



Laura

[former9thward]

30. Football is and has been being played for a few weeks now.

Please show me where a town is dying. Professional football is also being played. The same activities occur with that sport. Where are people dying as a result?

[Awsi Dooger]

31. You really are clueless

When positive numbers spike as a result of group gatherings, which is inevitable and already demonstrated via college football rosters and other collegiate sports, the deadly tentacles are everywhere.

There's not exactly a tracer beam indicating I got it from you after you got it from him. Sheer common sense points the way, and that way should be far removed from ignorant denial.

Football is big business so they have more leeway with the ignorance and denial. Other sports like Kentucky swimming recently shut down training and practices due to very high number of positive results. They tried to conceal the true number but swimming has lots of insiders who specified the numbers in comments under articles like this one:

https://swimswam.com/university-of-kentucky-halts-swim-practices-amid-covid-outbreak/

It is bizarre stupidity not to understand the same thing is happening with college football rosters.

[former9thward]

35. I will ask again -- what towns have been "sentenced to death"?

That is the post that I replied to.

[davsand]

37. We already had 125 new cases reported in this county today.

That has pretty much been the sort of daily numbers we are seeing here since the campus re-opened. Yeah, most people don't die from this shit, but is even one death worth it just to see a football game? Really? You wanna pick who dies?

[Demsrule86]

38. There asre football players with heart damage due to covid. Here showed you...no reason to risk

young lives...


https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29633697/heart-condition-linked-covid-19-fuels-power-5-concern-season-viability

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/09/09/college-football-player-jamain-stephens-dies-at-age-20-of-covid-19-complications/

[former9thward]

41. The players are receiving weekly testing for Covid.

And isolated. Europe has gone ahead with schools and sports for several months now. Why do they have no issues with sports?

[JanMichael]

44. 2 reasons. 1. Masks and shutdowns were mostly followed. 2. There is no US Football.

Plus while they are playing soccer (football) in a lot of places even that is start to get tricky:

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/coronavirus-sporting-events-affected-outbreak-200310084205890.html

https://www.bbc.com/sport/51605235

And in most countries national contact tracing.

We do not have that.

[Demsrule86]

45. Europe doesn't have the cases we do... and I sent you the evidence. Football is not

worth killing or causing lifelong heart disabilities in the young. Testing just shows you have it...won't mitigate the damage...again no football until we have this under control. They should be doing distant learning too...the college cases are rising.

[ProfessorGAC]

20. Unsurprising

The "devil's advocate" role & "only smart one in the room" routine are tired.
Learn a new tune.

[rockfordfile]

25. BS

[matt819]

2. For how long?

I give it 6 weeks before Covid shuts it down. I’ll project 150 cases and 4 deaths before they call it quits.

[Cirque du So-What]

3. It's the lead news story on my local stations

Qualifies as a BFD.

On edit: it’s on. Eight-game season.

[underpants]

5. Yeah. Poor Coach Harbaugh

This could have been the year he didn’t lose THE GAME.



Seriously this is a BFD

[redstatebluegirl]

10. No it isn't.

[roamer65]

4. Big gamble.

I don’t like gambling with the players lives and well being. They should stick to the spring plan.

[redstatebluegirl]

6. Nebraska was really pushing this.

I think there was a report that some politician in Nebraska was suing the Big Ten. Good grief, I can tell you it isn't safe. OU played Missouri State this past Saturday. It almost didn't happen because of the number of positive covid tests and contact tracing issues with both teams. There was a question if there would be enough players who did not have a COVID issue to field 2 teams.

The students were thick in campus town and at all of the frat houses no masks, no distancing. I predict in 2 weeks we will be back to online only classes and a ton of people will be quarantined.

No it is not safe, the SEC and ACC seem to be hiding the COVID numbers because they don't want to deal with the alumni and fans who did not attend their university, they are the loudest voices, they are the uneducated voices, they are the Trumpers.

So yes, there were issues.

[mnhtnbb]

8. The Cornhuskers are the State Religion in Nebraska. Big Red football.

[underpants]

15. Yeah they were. From the beginning. I read an article on LSU yesterday

that basically said they seem to be running all the players through testing to test positive and start the clock. Once they are positive then negative they don’t have to get tested again for 90 days. Seems that several programs APPEAR to be gaming the system in the same way.

[Demsrule86]

7. It should be cancelled...it is unsafe and if these kids who are not paid get Covid,

they may have lifetime disability because of this madness. Cancel the football.

[Amishman]

22. A significant reason they caved is pressure from the players

The Big 10 is near the top of the college football world and most of these kids have NFL dreams. With most other conferences having football, the Big 10 risked a mass exodus. Several players have already transferred because of this.

[Demsrule86]

39. I don't care...no one should be playing football.

[demmiblue]

12. And, there's the tweet!

Link to tweet

[underpants]

14. Knew it

I hear that ABC town hall last night was a disaster.

[a kennedy]

27. Fawk you.

[greatauntoftriplets]

18. Sigh, I hope that my Big 10 school opts out.

If they don't, at least they have a medical school and hospital.

[ProfessorGAC]

21. I Wonder About Both The Big 10 Schools Here

Wonder how state government reacts to this.

[greatauntoftriplets]

24. Yeah, I haven't heard anything yet.

One of my great-nephews goes to Marquette. His dorm is currently on lockdown for two weeks because of a Covid cluster there, and he has to be tested this week. And that's a school without football!

[ProfessorGAC]

26. My Nephew Went There

He graduated from the grad program for PA certification in May.
So, he's out of there now.
Back home, waiting for his license to be processed. He's got a gig lined up, just can't do it yet, because no official license so far.
He's working as a lab assistant until his license is issued.
He really liked the school.

[greatauntoftriplets]

33. Good for your nephew! We need PAs.

I hope that he gets his license soon. From my understanding, that process can take longer than it should.

My great-nephew is in engineering school, second year. He also loves it, and even registered to vote up there as a counterweight to all the Trumpers.

Best of luck to your nephew.

[ProfessorGAC]

40. He Passed The Exam

I think COVID has slowed the process of finalizing the certification & licensing.
It's not yet been 90 days. His mom said 90 days is normal, but these aren't normal times.
He's a very patient kid.
He's not hoping on certification. Just waiting on what he already earned.
My wife thinks he is going to be great at it.

[a kennedy]

28. They are either in or out. No some playing, it's all of them play or none of them do.

[Johnny2X2X]

23. Trump had zero to do with it

Link to tweet

?s=20

[CatWoman]

29. Big Ten University President Says Football Return Has 'Nothing To Do' With Trump

[Awsi Dooger]

32. This is also the reason the Woodward book needed to come out weeks later

To blunt news like this. That Woodward book was ridiculously early, as I emphasized last week