I wont see my grandkids and my son again, because of BASHING of Hillary Clinton

[Eliot Rosewater]

Probably wont, just want to make sure those who did it NEVER get a days rest.
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I thought it was clear, BECAUSE PEOPLE BASHED Hilary, because they bought into the LIES about her, people on the LEFT, we are where we are and like many here we may NEVER see our families again.

[MontanaMama]

1. Wait what?

Please explain.

[cwydro]

22. This is the umpteenth thread like this by this OP.

Not at all sure of the purpose.

[Celerity]

47. +1000

[LakeArenal]

2. That seems exactly the opposite of what Hillary would want.

[Whiskeytide]

3. Bookmarking to check back later and see if there is an explanation. n/t

[jimfields33]

4. Really?

Life’s to short.

[imaginary girl]

5. Due to pandemic?

I'm guessing you mean you won't see them due to precautions / social distancing for the pandemic?

[Eliot Rosewater]

6. I am saying PROBABLY wont and this applies to MOST of us...virus and the fascist war

that is about to start.

ALL of it is because of bashing Hillary, most of it was on the right but the stuff from the left put it over the top!

[cwydro]

23. I remember several months ago you said you were CERTAIN you'd be dead in a few months.

Maybe try some Kava tea or something.

The post the other day apparently attacking DUers was over the top, but people were nice to you about it.

We're all under a strain, try to keep calm and carry on.

[imaginary girl]

24. Just giving possible context for the other posters ...

... Who were commenting on your post.

I hear you: it has impacted my parents and their relationship with their grandkids (including my kids) too.

Wishing you well! Hopefully there are still enough patriots left to turn this ship around.

[raging moderate]

10. Yes, that is what I think is meant by this lament.

The COVID virus is having a much greater impact in some areas than in others. I am not sure when I will be able to see my grandchildren again. Perhaps I will never get to hug them again. Eliot Rosewater may live in an area that is severely affected, where people have to stay far away from each other. And I think we can be sure that Hillary Clinton would have done a much better job of controlling the COVID virus.

[Eliot Rosewater]

15. Thanks and WE ALL live in areas where we best not expose ourselves including to family...

[oasis]

7. They'll finally see the light. Admitting they were wrong would be

something else. Hope you can work it out.

[Eliot Rosewater]

9. I didnt mean that either LOL...never mind...

I should take my time when RAGING at the people who put us here.

[Eliot Rosewater]

12. So you think it best my family members die or I die from the fascist war or virus that is

happening in large part because of people allegedly on the left who BASHED Hillary?


I wish I was surprised.

[raging moderate]

14. Yes, the COVID virus makes it better to stay apart sometimes.

But we can draw near to each other in spirit. And over Skype, etc.

[anamnua]

11. Let me guess what the OP means

This is my interpretation (about which I will withhold my opinion -- party unity and all that):
The bashing of Hillary by the left meant that some of the mud stuck with blue collar workers many of whom stayed at home or voted for Trump.
This cost her the rust belt states and the election.
2016: President Trump.
2020: the Covid-19 pandemic.
Trump has shown appalling incompetence in relation to the pandemic which is now raging throughout the US -- something that would not have happened under a competent Hillary presidency.
The subsequent social distancing demands means that the OPer is now cut off from their family.
Please feel free to demur if I'm wrong, Eliot!

[Eliot Rosewater]

13. thanks, exactly

And I am surprised there are not more LIBERALS and DEMOCRATS mad as hell about the same thing.

[CentralMass]

20. Anger doesn't solve or change anything.

[MustLoveBeagles]

44. +1

[Codeine]

16. All those Bros. All those JackPineRadicals.

All those whiny tools for whom perfect will always be the enemy of good. All this shit is directly on them.

Directly.

And fuck all those assholes who try to defend the JPR crowd. There’s always one of them, and they can get fucked.

[Eliot Rosewater]

28. In the past pointing out their SHIT was one thing, now they are GUILTY of what

is about to happen to all of us, did NOT have to happen.

Easy to tell who they are, NEVER will they agree with me but will ONLY attack me and why am I angry and so on...yep

Sure some sincere folks say "anger wont solve anything" and while they are sincere and partially true, that isnt the point.

But the SAME group of folks are GUARANTEED to NEVER show they acknowledge this happened...NEVER

So fucking irritating, and they will NEVER admit their part and apologize. NEVER

[greymattermom]

17. My daughter doesn't like her either.

She's a Bernie bro though.

[Skittles]

19. the propaganda against Hillary worked on more folk then just stupid repukes

yup

[Eliot Rosewater]

27. Yup, and I was just told that anger is inappropriate

[betsuni]

29. I still can't believe how many people fell for it. Republicans never could've pulled that off

by themselves. Targeting the left with expert propaganda was genius. Russia really knows what it's doing.

[Skittles]

30. my one beef about Hillary was her IWR vote

that was legitimate

all that others stuff was sheer nonsense and lies - it sickened me how many people who should have known better fell for that garbage

[betsuni]

36. I still don't understand the whole "Hillary, Queen of the Warmongers" thing.

Most of the same people worried about President Obama starting WWIII and droning everybody to death, but they got hysterical about Hillary.

Hillary the Methodist. You take two mild-manned, cautious, serious, hard-working bleeding-heart liberals and turn them into bloodthirsty war monsters. And people believed it! Amazing.

[Skittles]

38. I never thought she was a warmonger

but voting for a war based on lies (which she surely knew to be true) was just plain sickening

[JI7]

43. It worked on Misogynists . These people were already sexist . This is why Biden isn't hurt as much

by many of the same attacks.

[Skittles]

45. yeah I know

[stillcool]

21. I will never believe Hillary lost...

The govt agencies are quick to say that the elections offices were hacked into, but it is not believed any vote totals were changed. Did anyone check? Anyone audit the vote? No. Our government has serious problems with counting...anything. I feel ya...just got to keep on keeping on.

[crimycarny]

25. Same here

Never have the exit polls been SO far off from the actual results. Also, the margin was juuust over the automatic recount threshold.

No way to prove it but I will go to my grave believing the Russians didn’t merely interfere by social media propaganda, I think it entirely plausible that votes were flipped.

Remember when Karl Rove went crazy on FOX when they called Ohio for Obama? Anonymous claimed to have uncovered a plan by the GOP to switch votes by redirecting traffic through some of their servers. Anonymous stopped it by putting in a firewall.

If Rove can do that (assuming it’s true), what’s to stop the more sophisticated Russians ?

[betsuni]

31. Agree.

[stillcool]

32. yeah...I definitely remember Ohio...

the Secretary of State left before the counting was done, and he was pissed. Karl Rove did Ohio with George Bush too...well him and Blackwell. What really gets me is the statistics based on past elections. The faulty results are etched in stone, to suggest otherwise is a 'conspiracy theory'.

[crimycarny]

34. Karl Rove once told a colleague you can steal an election

as long as you keep the margins low.

I don’t believe in conspiracy theories either but there is a lot of data to back up at least a suspicion that Karl Rove stole the 2004 election via Ohio and tried to do the same in 2012. 2004 Ohio servers crash at 11:14 pm and voting tabulation temporarily routed through “SmartTECH”, a company with many ties to the Bush campaign. Ohio tabulation servers come back up, all of a sudden Bush starts pulling ahead, a swing of more than 6% once all votes tabulated after the crash. Richard Hayes Phillips did a forensic analysis on the 2004 Ohio voting results and wrote a book about it “Witness to a Crime”. From the book:

“Phillips found zero irregularities in vote totals from all the counties that reported results before the servers crashed at 11:14pm. But of the fourteen counties that came in after the crash connected Ohio’s election computers to SmartTECH’s computers in Chattanooga, every single one of them showed voter irregularities – that all favored George W. Bush.“

Fast forward to 2012:

1)Anonymous released a video before the election as a warning to Rove that they had uncovered a backdoor system put in place to do the same thing as 2004.
2) Obama leading Romney, Ohio servers crash again at 11:13 pm (just one minute earlier than 2004)
3) Servers come back up but Obama still ahead
4) Rove has his bizarre breakdown on FOX when they call it for Obama. Rove seems to be saying “just wait, it will change”
5) Obama wins and Anonymous post another video to Karl Rove telling him they had detected his attempt to switch votes on election night and put in their firewall. They even claim to know the exact number of times Karl Rove’s IT team tried to unsuccessfully log in to firewall...105 login tries.

[stillcool]

37. wow...never saw that

Got to bookmark that sucker. Thanks!

[betsuni]

41. Thanks for the details!

[crimycarny]

42. Witness died in plane crash before testifying

A GOP IT guy who was supposed to testify in an investigation into 2004 election fraud died when a plane he was flying crashed. FBI had warned him not to fly. Here is an article on how Rove allegedly changed the votes using a “Kingpin” (man in the middle) attack:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republican-it-guru-dies-in-plane-crash/

In same article they mention many voting irregularities including GW Bush winning 4,258 votes in a precinct where only 638 voters cast ballots.

Here is an article that documents some of the irregularities in both 2004 and 2012:

https://truthout.org/articles/anonymous-karl-rove-and-2012-election-fix/

Why no real investigation? So, again, if Karl Rove can get away with something so blatant, it is not at all beyond the realm of possibility that Russia flipped votes in swing states by hacking.

I think that is why Trump is so freaked out by mail-in/absentee voting. Can you say “paper trail”?

[radius777]

46. Great post. GOP has always focused on stealing

OH and FL which is key for them winning the presidency.

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. She didnt, shit we still dont know about happened.

[Klaralven]

33. Is the problem in being with them or do you have to travel, perhaps internationally, to see them?

We've seen my son and his family occasionally over the spring and summer. Drove 300 miles to see the daughters and their families once the "curve" flattened in our states.

[Eliot Rosewater]

35. Yes

I am talking about family that is not here that we cannot travel to or expose ourselves to. One person especially

[tavernier]

39. Is your family in another country?

If not, do you need assistance connecting with family here in the states? Is there anything we might be able to help you with?

[Demonaut]

40. mostly trolls and those lacking common sense