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Bayard

(22,011 posts)
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 03:30 PM Sep 2020

The Case For Drinking Coffee Is Stronger Than Ever

There are few things more more ritualistic—and to many, more sacred—than a morning cup of joe. 64% of Americans drink at least one cup a day—a statistic that’s barely budged since the ’90s. Despite warnings from doctors over the years that coffee may be hard on the body, people have remained devoted to the drink.

Luckily for them, the latest science is evolving in their favor. Research is showing that coffee may have net positive effects on the body after all.

Is coffee bad for you?
For years, doctors warned people to avoid coffee because it might increase the risk of heart disease and stunt growth. They worried that people could become addicted to the energy that high amounts of caffeine provided, leading them to crave more and more coffee as they became tolerant to higher amounts of caffeine. Experts also worried that coffee had damaging effects on the digestive tract, which could lead to stomach ulcers, heartburn and other ills.

All of this concern emerged from studies done decades ago that compared coffee drinkers to non-drinkers on a number of health measures, including heart problems and mortality. Coffee drinkers, it seemed, were always worse off.

But it turns out that coffee wasn’t really to blame. Those studies didn’t always control for the many other factors that could account for poor health, such as smoking, drinking and a lack of physical activity. If people who drank a lot of coffee also happened to have some other unhealthy habits, then it’s not clear that coffee is responsible for their heart problems or higher mortality.

That understanding has led to a rehabilitated reputation for the drink. Recent research reveals that once the proper adjustments are made for confounding factors, coffee drinkers don’t seem have a higher risk for heart problems or cancer than people who don’t drink coffee. Recent studies also found no significant link between the caffeine in coffee and heart-related issues such as high cholesterol, irregular heartbeats, stroke or heart attack.

https://time.com/collection/live-well/4768860/is-coffee-good-for-you/

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The Case For Drinking Coffee Is Stronger Than Ever (Original Post) Bayard Sep 2020 OP
I do love my coffee, have usually at the most 2 cups a day, so at least I've cut back the ... SWBTATTReg Sep 2020 #1
My morning cup is sacred. There's nothing like that first sip. oregonjen Sep 2020 #2
+1 pandr32 Sep 2020 #5
You Described Me ProfessorGAC Sep 2020 #18
Only 1 small cup for me most days whistler162 Sep 2020 #19
Damn. Time for another mocha. n/t Eyeball_Kid Sep 2020 #3
I am addicted to coffee. peacebuzzard Sep 2020 #4
Face it, you'd drink coffee regardless. This article only helps you feel good about it. Towlie Sep 2020 #6
I miss coffee terribly. luvs2sing Sep 2020 #7
Different brands DownriverDem Sep 2020 #32
Yes, there are some very good decafs. luvs2sing Sep 2020 #33
I like this study! Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2020 #8
It does my body good, every morning for four decades is all I am saying. And afternoon kick. LizBeth Sep 2020 #9
I love coffee but am wary of becoming addicted IronLionZion Sep 2020 #10
I had to take my 85 year old mother.... SergeStorms Sep 2020 #11
If coffee kills malaise Sep 2020 #12
Coffee leads directly to heart palpitations/irregular heartbeat in this heart patient relayerbob Sep 2020 #13
You can drink decaf and still get the health benefits DrToast Sep 2020 #31
Love the coffee, can't handle the caffeine Thekaspervote Sep 2020 #14
Coffee is the only constant in my life for the last 58 years. fierywoman Sep 2020 #15
In one of Josephine Tey's novels (I think it's Brat Farrar) soldierant Sep 2020 #16
Thank you for the reminder of that novel. Loved it. niyad Sep 2020 #21
YVW. I loved all her novels. soldierant Sep 2020 #24
I thought I was weird I_UndergroundPanther Sep 2020 #35
I find it does build up in the system, so I drop off maybe twice a month bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #17
This cracks me up. I have read much more informative articles on the benefits of coffee for years. niyad Sep 2020 #20
I'm a one cup a day person. llmart Sep 2020 #22
Never really drank more than one cup a day. Mr.Bill Sep 2020 #23
I've drunk coffee since I joined the Air Force at 18. Before that it was tea. cwydro Sep 2020 #25
I guess I'm a Weirdo. I have NEVER liked Coffee, I HATE the stuff & don't understand why people love The_REAL_Ecumenist Sep 2020 #26
In my lifetime I've given up nicotene and alcohol and most fatty foods but I am even more CTyankee Sep 2020 #27
I drink it by the pot-full. 😋 Owl Sep 2020 #28
Me too. Buckeye_Democrat Sep 2020 #30
Can't get enough! BlueWavePsych Sep 2020 #29
"most (coffee drinkers) drink just a cup of java per day" - surprising, and it looks wrong muriel_volestrangler Sep 2020 #34
that's a difficult stat... druidity33 Sep 2020 #37
If it ain't a 16 oz coffee cup I won't buy it. nolabear Sep 2020 #36

SWBTATTReg

(22,077 posts)
1. I do love my coffee, have usually at the most 2 cups a day, so at least I've cut back the ...
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 03:32 PM
Sep 2020

amount of C I drink. I am a grouch if I don't get my cup of morning Joe.

ProfessorGAC

(64,875 posts)
18. You Described Me
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 05:10 PM
Sep 2020

I probably drank a bit more coffee before I retired. But, I was a half cup at a time guy, as I only like it when piping hot.
But, I still didn't have more than 3 full cups a day. Or at least I think so.
But, since I retired, I use a thermomug from my last job, that while working, was a shelf decoration.
Now, I fill it (only about 8 ounces) and drink that, if I drink all of it.
Done for the day.
I sometimes think that morning cup is more custom than anything else. Just part of my routine.

peacebuzzard

(5,148 posts)
4. I am addicted to coffee.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 03:41 PM
Sep 2020

if for some reason I can't get to a cup of coffee when I wake up, I am miserable and on the hunt for a fix.

luvs2sing

(2,220 posts)
7. I miss coffee terribly.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 04:09 PM
Sep 2020

After many happy coffee-drinking years, I developed a life-threatening arrhythmia that doctors were able to directly trace back to caffeine intake. It sucks. I miss coffee.

luvs2sing

(2,220 posts)
33. Yes, there are some very good decafs.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 07:07 PM
Sep 2020

My husband is always scouting them out for me. I can have a decaf a couple times a month. There is still a small amount of caffeine in it and, if I drink it every day, after about a week the arrhythmia starts again.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
8. I like this study!
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 04:14 PM
Sep 2020

Since it reinforces my coffee addiction, I'll accept this study and reject the negative ones!



I'm kidding about such anti-science behavior, but it would indeed take an avalanche of negative health reports regarding coffee to make me stop drinking it.

I've learned to not drink it before getting my BP checked by a doctor, though. She was trying to push BP meds on me for a slightly elevated systolic reading (a little above 120) until I returned a couple days later to get checked again... without the morning coffee.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
10. I love coffee but am wary of becoming addicted
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 04:29 PM
Sep 2020

so I'll drink matcha green tea some days.

2 cups of aeropress most work days, maybe 1 cup on weekends.

I like articles like this that validate things I like and ignore articles that say it's bad. There are similar studies with whiskey.

SergeStorms

(19,187 posts)
11. I had to take my 85 year old mother....
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 04:29 PM
Sep 2020

to the hospital 4 times because she was having "heart attacks" (my mom was a hypochondriac, admitted to hospitals 37 different times in her life). Both the Doctor and I asked if she had been drinking coffee, "yes, I had one cup". The Doctor told her no more coffee, but she wouldn't stop. After the fourth time I went through her apartment and rooted out all of her coffee and told her, "the next time you have a 'heart attack' because you've been drinking coffee, you call the ambulance. I'm not taking you to the hospital again". She finally stopped drinking coffee. She died last year of kidney failure at 93. My point being, age has a lot to do with the "it's completely safe to drink" meme.

relayerbob

(6,537 posts)
13. Coffee leads directly to heart palpitations/irregular heartbeat in this heart patient
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 04:45 PM
Sep 2020

In fact, any caffeine does. I have plenty of documented evidence of it, if they would like to see it.

Don't kid yourslef, artificial stimulants are not doing the body good

soldierant

(6,799 posts)
16. In one of Josephine Tey's novels (I think it's Brat Farrar)
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 04:51 PM
Sep 2020

which was written before coffee went under the microscope, there's a conversation on the order of thank heaver doctors have't started on coffee yet, of course they will, they do with everything that makes life bearable.

And then, of course, they did.

I used to love coffee, and I still kind of feel that nothing in the world tastes as good as coffee smells. But over the years I've grown away from it. It has a paradoxical effect on me (doesn't keep me awake, if anything, it relaxes me), so it's no help in staying alert. Occasionally I'll have a cup for the warmth, or in summer, a glass, iced, for cooling off. But it's far from regular now.

soldierant

(6,799 posts)
24. YVW. I loved all her novels.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 05:27 PM
Sep 2020

I was born at the wrong time and in the wrong country to have seen any of he plays (written as "Gordon Daviot," but I probably would have loved them too.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
35. I thought I was weird
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 07:41 PM
Sep 2020

A red eye (Expresso in coffee) will knock me out.

If I have really bad insomnia I drink a red eye.

bucolic_frolic

(43,064 posts)
17. I find it does build up in the system, so I drop off maybe twice a month
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 04:56 PM
Sep 2020

When I return to it, the caffeine is great. But then chocolate does the same thing to me. Can't tolerate it after 4pm, causes insomnia.

niyad

(113,079 posts)
20. This cracks me up. I have read much more informative articles on the benefits of coffee for years.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 05:16 PM
Sep 2020

Note "benefits", not just "not unhealthy". So much so that my favourite baristas had them posted. Much like chocolate. Reminds me of the debates over butter and eggs.

llmart

(15,534 posts)
22. I'm a one cup a day person.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 05:20 PM
Sep 2020

I have never believed it was harmful if I only drink one cup, no sugar, a little milk. Then again, I believe in the adage "all things in moderation".

I love my morning coffee and I do savor it. No rushing around any longer since I'm retired, so I savor having a slow, relaxing start to my day.

Mr.Bill

(24,253 posts)
23. Never really drank more than one cup a day.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 05:26 PM
Sep 2020

But I must say, it's the only drug I have not succeeded in quitting. I've quit tobacco, cocaine, even meth many years ago. I think it's the availability and low cost that makes it hard to quit.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
25. I've drunk coffee since I joined the Air Force at 18. Before that it was tea.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 05:30 PM
Sep 2020

My coffee intake has stayed the same all these many years, so I never got the "increase" needed to maintain my "addiction" lol.

Strong and black, usually in a French Press or an old fashioned percolater. But I do have one of those pod things, whatever they're called.

The_REAL_Ecumenist

(715 posts)
26. I guess I'm a Weirdo. I have NEVER liked Coffee, I HATE the stuff & don't understand why people love
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 05:37 PM
Sep 2020

it so. Caffeine makes me nauseous & jittery. Need your house remodeled, cleaned AND decorated in 2 hours? Force me to drink coffee...I DETEST the stuff & rather drink mud water. But as the saying goes, 2 each their own.

CTyankee

(63,893 posts)
27. In my lifetime I've given up nicotene and alcohol and most fatty foods but I am even more
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 05:38 PM
Sep 2020

addicted now to coffee. I love the taste and the brightness I feel after those 4 cups (plus large glass of iced coffee which is leftover from the pot I have made in the a.m.). I guess I just love the wide awake, raring to go feel every day now that I am old.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
30. Me too.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 05:47 PM
Sep 2020


I don't know if it's accurate, but I'm also genetically predisposed to consuming more caffeine than typical according to 23andMe.

Edit: I don't like sugary stuff, though, so I rarely ever drink soda.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
34. "most (coffee drinkers) drink just a cup of java per day" - surprising, and it looks wrong
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 07:22 PM
Sep 2020
In 2019, 64% of Americans aged 18 and over drank coffee every day (matches Time's statistic)
...
The average U.S. coffee drinker consumes 2.7 cups per day, with the average size of a coffee cup measuring 9 ounces (if 50% only drink one cup, then to get the average up to 2.7, then everyone else would need to drink 4 to 5 cups a day - no-one on 2 or 3)

https://myfriendscoffee.com/usa-coffee-statistics/

druidity33

(6,445 posts)
37. that's a difficult stat...
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 08:11 PM
Sep 2020

I tend to drink 3 "cups" of coffee a day.... BUT, i pour short. Probably 6 ounces of actual coffee (with cream and sugar). I prefer my java HOT (the reason for a short pour) so most times i toss the last few sips (so maybe 5 ounces coffee?). BUT i use a french press with french roast (usually), so does the method and/or the bean affect the caffeine amount? Just trying to point out that there are a lot of variables that make that statistical analysis kinda imprecise.



nolabear

(41,936 posts)
36. If it ain't a 16 oz coffee cup I won't buy it.
Tue Sep 15, 2020, 07:46 PM
Sep 2020

I only drink it in the morning but I easily drink 28 oz given the chance.

That said I get the addiction, I surely am, but though my tolerance has increased the high isn’t pleasant if I go too far.

But I’ve often said the only thing that might make me believe in a benevolent God is the fact that coffee has no calories.

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