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kentuck

(111,076 posts)
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 01:40 PM Sep 2020

Ideally, Biden would have more votes than Trump on Election night...

...rather than waiting for the mail-in ballots.

That would take away his strategy of declaring victory the night of the election.

Perhaps more Democrats should be encouraged to vote in person?

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Ideally, Biden would have more votes than Trump on Election night... (Original Post) kentuck Sep 2020 OP
I believe he will. LakeArenal Sep 2020 #1
We've decided we're voting in person Siwsan Sep 2020 #2
I also believe he will. DFW Sep 2020 #3
If he wins Florida, the networks will likely call it for Biden Fiendish Thingy Sep 2020 #4
Based on the CNN electoral map, trump can't even win with Florida! dubyadiprecession Sep 2020 #10
Most maps show that Trump would need to flip a couple of blue/Clinton states to win... Wounded Bear Sep 2020 #13
When trump loses Florida, he gonna have some explaining to do to his boss. dubyadiprecession Sep 2020 #16
I have heard that he has a strategy for Florida to confiscate a couple of counties' ballots. kentuck Sep 2020 #17
That's Roger Stone's plan...Trump carries it out at his own peril Fiendish Thingy Sep 2020 #18
Roger Stone wants him to declare martial law. kentuck Sep 2020 #19
He also specifically advocated seizing ballots Fiendish Thingy Sep 2020 #20
One thing we know about Trump... kentuck Sep 2020 #21
Nothing is going to take that strategy away... lame54 Sep 2020 #5
my state is 100% mail in..as several others..we dont even have polling places.. samnsara Sep 2020 #6
Joe will have more H2O Man Sep 2020 #7
Yes, he will lie, no matter what. kentuck Sep 2020 #8
I believe... Alacritous Crier Sep 2020 #9
My son and I have decided to for that very reason. Sugarcoated Sep 2020 #11
Mail-in ballots are generally counted first. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #12
Varies by state, though... Wounded Bear Sep 2020 #14
Sure but most states begin the process days/hours before polls close. Drunken Irishman Sep 2020 #15
Deliver or mail your ballot early. In most states, that will be even more effective than in-person. lagomorph777 Sep 2020 #22

Siwsan

(26,257 posts)
2. We've decided we're voting in person
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 01:43 PM
Sep 2020

I've never encountered a really long line at my precinct, and I'll be heading there at about 9 - book in hand, just in case.

I'll just feel better watching my ballot go into the scanner, registering my vote but I have no expectation we'll know the results for a couple of days, minimum. I hope I'm wrong, and I can pop the cork on that bubbly sooner rather than later.

DFW

(54,330 posts)
3. I also believe he will.
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 01:47 PM
Sep 2020

I think his popular vote margin of victory will even top Hillary's. That STILL does not guarantee he will be declared the winner. Republican electoral fraud has been honed to a fine art form. As we have seen with the Postal Service, they are very creative in devising ways to make our votes NOT count.

As for voting in person, it MUST be accepted that some, even many, just CAN'T make it in person. Dallas is 5000 miles from where I'll be on Election Day. I can't just charter a Space Shuttle for the round trip

Fiendish Thingy

(15,568 posts)
4. If he wins Florida, the networks will likely call it for Biden
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 01:52 PM
Sep 2020

Trump can’t win without Florida, and they tally their absentee ballots as they are received, so the results can be released immediately after the polls close.

Although we are all expecting not to know who the winner is on Election Night, if the Florida absentee ballots show Biden with a decent 5+% lead, it will be hard for the networks to ignore or resist calling it.

Bloomberg’s $100 million is going to be vital.

Wounded Bear

(58,634 posts)
13. Most maps show that Trump would need to flip a couple of blue/Clinton states to win...
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 02:13 PM
Sep 2020

in addition to Florida. Sounding more and more difficult day after day.

kentuck

(111,076 posts)
17. I have heard that he has a strategy for Florida to confiscate a couple of counties' ballots.
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 02:43 PM
Sep 2020

To prevent the totals from being announced as final?

Fiendish Thingy

(15,568 posts)
18. That's Roger Stone's plan...Trump carries it out at his own peril
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 02:55 PM
Sep 2020

The streets would fill, and Trump would likely lose a court battle over jurisdiction, as it would be up to the FL SOS and AG to pursue a fraud investigation, not DOJ.

samnsara

(17,615 posts)
6. my state is 100% mail in..as several others..we dont even have polling places..
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 01:56 PM
Sep 2020

..so we are used to waiting for the results. During the primaries, my husband ran for a local office and our small county took THREE days for us to know who won. And the incumbent (who lost!) was ahead for the first full day.

It will be a nail biter but nothing we cant overcome....

...but I agree. If someone feels safe going in to vote in person, then do it. We need the early results. Before we were all mail-in, my polling place was a 120 yr old country school house. There were always more poll workers than voters in there at one time...and it was in the gym so they could have socially distanced 20 feet.


H2O Man

(73,528 posts)
7. Joe will have more
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 01:57 PM
Sep 2020

votes that night. Then Trump will insist all the mail-in votes need to be counted. And Biden's lead will grow substantially.

Per voting in person: we should never react to our opposition. Instead, we respond. For many, voting in person poses a health risk. They (including me) should vote in the manner that best meets our individual needs. What Trump says should not be a factor, for we already know he will lie no matter what.

Recommended.

Alacritous Crier

(3,815 posts)
9. I believe...
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 02:05 PM
Sep 2020

it will be a certain landslide for Biden on Election Night. Any later counted mail-ins will only cement his landslide.

Sugarcoated

(7,722 posts)
11. My son and I have decided to for that very reason.
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 02:07 PM
Sep 2020

I want Pennsylvania to be called for Biden early in the evening. I'm confident a mask will keep us safe.

 

Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
15. Sure but most states begin the process days/hours before polls close.
Mon Sep 14, 2020, 02:24 PM
Sep 2020

Hence why I said generally - and the states that don't are not states being contested. If anything, Biden is going to have an early significant lead in many of these states due to early voting.

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