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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
Sat Sep 12, 2020, 08:36 AM Sep 2020

While most people rightly reflect on the WTC during 9/11, for me, it's the Pentagon

I worked there from 1987 to 1994 of the fifth floor, A Ring, which is the center most.

I've actually visited the WTC Observation Deck once on a day trip to NYC. It had spectacular views of the entire city. From that high up, everything, every other tall building and even the Statue of Liberty across the bay, looked small. But like I said, I had only been there once in my life.

At the Pentagon, I had worked there five days straight, for more than seven years. I knew all the floors and corridors, from the basement to the Center Court. Every day I'd head down to the Concourse book store or the cafeteria, the Library, or just roam the corridors during my lunch hour. I got to know the many civilians who worked there every day, from the maintenance and cleaning staff to the secretaries (I even dated one once).

I felt proud to work at the headquarters of the nation's defense, doing my regular Air Force job that I could do anywhere else in the world... But I was doing it at the Pentagon, where the people I served were generals, all the way down to low ranking airmen. And despite the fact that the place is full of brass, unless you had stars on your shoulder-boards, well, there's no point in getting a big head. I used to say that you could roll a bowling ball down any corridor and hit three or four colonels.

And pretty much the entire time I was there, the place was under massive renovation. Remember that the building was originally build during WWII and in many ways, it looks as if it hadn't changed since. So areas were refurbished, but many others weren't. The build inside was a mixture of old and new. Whenever I would see movies that supposedly depicted the Pentagon's interior, Dr. Strangelove for example, I knew that the real Pentagon was a lot more disappointing than the imaginary once. By the way, one area that I never entered during my time there was the NMCC, the National Military Command Center. Pretty much the place where you'd see in movies where people would be sitting at desks, looking at a wall full of screens. Now whether it actually look like that, I wouldn't tell you. However, the rest of the build is nothing more than what you'd find in any other government office build, but with people in uniforms walking around.

It was at the Pentagon where I became politicized. Reagan and Bush and Clinton after that. Listening to the local Pacifica station, WPFW, even at my desk while I worked. I started collecting books, I observed the inner workings of the Federal Government, I had many, many discussions about the sundry political matters of the day with just about anybody. For me, my time there was the greatest political education that I could ever have. I absorbed so very much about what and how things worked and didn't work. My time there cemented my impression of what America does and how it operated for the rest of my life.

It's because of my time there that had eventually brought me to DU.

And on that day nineteen years and one day ago, my greatest concern were for the people in the Pentagon when I had heard that it was also attacked. We were told that the airliner had skimmed the elevated Wash. Blvd next to the building, taking out street lamps before slamming into the outer wall near the old heliport location. That part of the building, which was directly around the corner from where I used to work, where I had been plenty of times for various reasons over the years, was caved in. Knowing how the windows were sealed, I imagined the smoked having nowhere the go, with those in that area who survived doing what they could to make their way through the smoke, darkness and rubble. Later I had found out that no Air Force personnel had died in the attack, but that was little comfort, because I had become acquainted with civilians and member of the other branches during my time there.

Again, the attack happened seven years after my own departure, but seeing the place in smoke on TV struck me like I had just been there the day before. If anything, the only saving grace was the fact the that airliner had smashed into a section of the building which just been recently renovated and thus, was relatively sparsely populated. At it were, aside from those on the plane, only 125 Pentagon workers were lost.

I was also relieved that the plane did not crash directly in the Center Court. Had it crashed there, much more of the building would have been destroyed and there would have been a much greater loss of life. As I said before, I used to work in the center ring. A crash would have pretty much killed everyone in that ring in a Center Court crash.

In the many years since I had left in 1994, I had never been back. I didn't want to bother going through the tour pass process for a place that I had the run of for seven years. I was sure that many of the people were long gone as well. I was content with leaving it in my past.

But every year around this time, my thoughts turn to the Pentagon and what it had gone through on that fateful day and all the live who were lost as well. I took that phase of the terrorist attack personally. And I still do to this day.



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While most people rightly reflect on the WTC during 9/11, for me, it's the Pentagon (Original Post) MrScorpio Sep 2020 OP
Lovely post. hamsterjill Sep 2020 #1
Speechless and so informed! mfcorey1 Sep 2020 #2
Thanks for the personal connection grantcart Sep 2020 #3
Great report, Mr. Scorpio! My brother worked there (air force) when you did...same years. BComplex Sep 2020 #4
Thank you so much for sharing such n important time in your life with us. niyad Sep 2020 #5
Thank you for posting this. yardwork Sep 2020 #6
Thank you Mr Scorpio. I lost two friends that morning, one who had just started at the WTC FailureToCommunicate Sep 2020 #7
Thanks! paleotn Sep 2020 #8
Brothers and sisters, family. sarge43 Sep 2020 #9
⭐️⭐️⭐️K&R ⭐️⭐️⭐️ spanone Sep 2020 #10
Great post, love the pictures n/t hibbing Sep 2020 #11
+ 1. nt iluvtennis Sep 2020 #18
Thank you for a very touching remembrance. Fla Dem Sep 2020 #12
Great post and pictures .. mountain grammy Sep 2020 #13
Thank you for a solemn, sentimental journey. nt hay rick Sep 2020 #14
I used to stay frequently at the Marriott across the street. nolabear Sep 2020 #15
Nope! No losers and suckers in these pictures either. usaf-vet Sep 2020 #16
Thank you for your thoughts and the lovely pictures shrike3 Sep 2020 #17
This was very moving. Thank you for sharing this with us MrScorpio. chowder66 Sep 2020 #19
I was in Washington DC right after 911 TruckFump Sep 2020 #20
Thank you for sharing this. NoRoadUntravelled Sep 2020 #21
125 qwlauren35 Sep 2020 #22
Great Post...Thanks for Sharing. Stuart G Sep 2020 #23
Thanks so much for sharing these memories with us, Mr Scorpio Hekate Sep 2020 #24
Thank you for sharing your memories and your photos MustLoveBeagles Sep 2020 #25
It makes perfect sense for you to.... electric_blue68 Sep 2020 #26

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
1. Lovely post.
Sat Sep 12, 2020, 09:25 AM
Sep 2020

Of course you will have a special place in your heart for a space that is a part of your life. This was a lovely tribute and explanation.

Thank you for your service, and for remembering.

BComplex

(8,050 posts)
4. Great report, Mr. Scorpio! My brother worked there (air force) when you did...same years.
Sat Sep 12, 2020, 09:32 AM
Sep 2020

To this day, he has pretty much the same reaction to 9/11. It still hits him in the gut.

Thank you for your report.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,014 posts)
7. Thank you Mr Scorpio. I lost two friends that morning, one who had just started at the WTC
Sat Sep 12, 2020, 09:37 AM
Sep 2020

restaurant on the top floor. He wanted to show up early that day to make a good impression on his first day on the job.

The other friend was on one of the planes that crashed into the towers.

SO, like you, the memories are vivid, awful and personal.

We were all united for a time, then Bush and others squandered that world wide sympathy.

Still an open wound on these anniversaries.

Powerful photos. Thanks.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
9. Brothers and sisters, family.
Sat Sep 12, 2020, 09:48 AM
Sep 2020

As with a blood family, didn't always like all of them because some were PITAs. However, there is a special bond that can not be broken.

There's that memory, "We did that - together."

The pain and pride watching the aircraft leave the Missing Man formation.

We served.

Thank you, Technical Sergeant Scorpio.

nolabear

(41,961 posts)
15. I used to stay frequently at the Marriott across the street.
Sat Sep 12, 2020, 10:24 AM
Sep 2020

I recall how shocked I was to realize I could look out my hotel room at the Pentagon and Arlington. I’d envisioned them as being out in the countryside somewhere.

The hotel still has a big beam pulled out of the wreckage and a letter thanking them for being a staging ground for rescuers.

usaf-vet

(6,186 posts)
16. Nope! No losers and suckers in these pictures either.
Sat Sep 12, 2020, 10:27 AM
Sep 2020
USAF Veteran 1965-1969

I had the honor of being included on the trip to Washington DC sponsored by the US Army Recruiting.

On that trip, we got to spend a day at the Pentagon including seeing the "Ground Zero" coffee and snack concession.

And the official Pentagon briefing room in the area where all the Pentagon national news reporters have offices.

Lots of briefings thankfully short and informative.

shrike3

(3,591 posts)
17. Thank you for your thoughts and the lovely pictures
Sat Sep 12, 2020, 10:33 AM
Sep 2020

I have several friends, and family members, in the military, most retired now.

I have an acquaintance who flew for years and knew some of the flight attendants who died on that day. For those with personal connections to the sites attacked, 9/11 must inspire pain the rest of us can't understand. Thanks for sharing.

TruckFump

(5,812 posts)
20. I was in Washington DC right after 911
Sat Sep 12, 2020, 11:22 AM
Sep 2020

I had a case in tax court and had to make the appearance myself. Later that day, a taxi driver gave us a tour and he managed to get fairly close to the Pentagon. While pictures are awful, up close, the devastation was horrendous.

It was a scary trip and I will never forget how tense the city was.

qwlauren35

(6,148 posts)
22. 125
Sat Sep 12, 2020, 09:20 PM
Sep 2020

I did not know that so many had died at the Pentagon.

You're right - the plane that hit the Pentagon is downplayed.

Thanks for sharing.

electric_blue68

(14,891 posts)
26. It makes perfect sense for you to....
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 01:51 AM
Sep 2020

identify with The Pentagon since you worked there so long, and in service to Our Country! Thank you.

And just interesting to hear someone give a more detailed description of the physicality, and hustle bustle of the place; usually in TV, and movies it's short bits of hallway, then people walk into a room of various kinds. Plus your photos add more, too!

I'm a native NYC'r and spent almost a whole year about 18 years, and 49 weeks -Ago- to the 9-11 date in the South Tower (#2) on the 73rd Flr in a big open NE corner office.

Where I feel a link is you mentioning the Pentagon's Concourse - bookstore, cafeteria et al.

Below ground, and in between, and at the sides of the Twin Towers was a massive Concourse!
Cafes, food kiosks, drugstores, eyeglass places, banks, clothing shops, ice cream kiosk (Ben & Jerry's), doughnut shop, newspaper stands, at least one book store 🙂 and more.

I spent a lot of time there after work. And way after that because I worked in different parts of Lower Manhattan, I often picked up stuff after work since I could get so many different things I needed.

I hadn't thought about the Concourse yesterday ~ thanks for helping me remember.

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