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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDoes anyody have any insight into what the consequences of Kenosha might be?
Last night I was watching MSNBC with Brian Williams, I think? In any case, James Carville was on, and there was a discussion that the events in Kenosha could create a lot of negative issues for Dems. I haven't see anything in particular today that might indicate that more than any other day, but I have no idea. All I read in the NYT this morning was about the man who was shot and paralyzed, and that 45 is planning a "crack down." Of course they always blame the Dems for anything that can be construed as 'anarchy', and even James Carville seemed a bit concerned. He said that Biden "should" be addressing this in no uncertain terms. I, myself, haven't heard anything along those lines EXCEPT for last night. . . .
I am so worried about this goddamned election that I'm not only sleeping badly, but I'm grinding my teeth at night!
Blecht
(3,803 posts)Oooh, this is going to be bad for Biden!
Oooh, this is going to be good for Trump!
Discussions on cable channels should be avoided.
calguy
(5,309 posts)But I do know that it would have better if it had not happened. Trump will try to use this as a political wedge issue just the way Nixon did in 1968. And will probably get away with it to an extent. Will it be enough to win him the election? Time will tell, but this kind image doesn't do our side any good at all.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)unrest In Portland.
https://www.koin.com/news/protests/fbi-response-investigations-portland-protests-riots-08262020/
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The FBI will hold a media briefing with Special Agent Charge Renn Cannon, during which they will explain how the bureau is balancing its mission to protect First Amendment rights under the Constitution while also conducting investigations as protests continue."
unblock
(52,227 posts)I don't see why this shouldn't work well for Biden either.
The only reason for pundits to fret is because polls suggest Biden has the inside track to the White House and any wild card might jeopardize that.
So any "incident" is a potential wild card that *might* play out in Donnie's favor somehow. But they are desperate for some way to link this kind of violence to blm. I don't see that happening in this case, but that's the kind of wild card that could shake things up politically.
Freethinker65
(10,021 posts)So Trump can be seen as the savior.
White 17 yo taking up Trump's cause and joining an out of state militia to help protect others from evil minority city dwellers out to do harm killing two protestors is a bit more than Trump wanted, but Trump will try to run with it.
Biden has been releasing videos condemning violence and looting and urging unity to get some meaningful necessary police reform. Biden needs to go live and Democrats need to hammer that message. These violent episodes are a direct result of Trump encouraging not reform, but increased militarization of LE, especially in minority areas.
Trump seeks to divide by hate and fear.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)The murder was wrong, now all you people angry. Be nice.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,611 posts)Dont see how this is a downside for Biden - it should spur POC and young voters to the polls in record numbers.
Even with GOP/media spin, I dont think many suburbanites will be scared into voting for Trump.
mahina
(17,656 posts)And get yourself a night guard. If you dont mind going to see your dentist you can get one thatll fit you well and they cost less then extracting broken teeth. I have broken so many and I wish I had known. I have several root canals now
If they extract the tooth and you can afford an implant which is better thats at least $5000 each. Save those teeth. Good night guards they sell at the group drugstore arent as comfortable as a fitted one from the dentist but theyll do the job
BigDemVoter
(4,150 posts)And I pick it up Friday at 4:45!
mahina
(17,656 posts)That is wonderful. Your future living teeth will thank you.
Now for all those ice chewers!
Things I wish Id known.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)That ended my ice chewing days.
mahina
(17,656 posts)That sounds terrible.
Adsos Letter
(19,459 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)facebook statement from militia group verifies that the Kenosha Police knew they would be there with guns.
shithole sending secret police that the governor have not accepted. A militia kills two and wounded one and the police allowed to him walk away.
Kenosha Police officer shoots Blake in the back 7 times in front of his children.
It's already back firing on shithole and his cronies.
doc03
(35,337 posts)today. They actually agreed the cop was is in the wrong in the shooting. They even backed people's right to protest but it is the few that do the burning and looting that loses them. I think the more we see of that the better the chance Trump will be re-elected. Every time things start cooling off some like clock work the damn cops get it going again. I am starting to think it is done on purpose, they know no matter what they do they get away with it. It's like they believe like Trump they are above the law.
mahina
(17,656 posts)leftofthestorm
(938 posts)In this environment you would think a cop would have enough sense to not shoot a black man in the back seven freaking times. It feels intentional. And with the 17 year old kid that went nuts I observed cops and swat or whatever they are got there about 30 seconds after the shooting started. I am a little paranoid with this one.
doc03
(35,337 posts)closest polls. What is next PA and Michigan?
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Not a good narrative for drumpf. This is what HIS America looks like.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)When one of those white supremacist freaks gets dropped, then it will be some big national tragedy...boohoo and all that shit.
doc03
(35,337 posts)mess He created and it works for with his cult. I don't see him losing any die hards and if he can scare enough whites in the suburbs he could win.
doc03
(35,337 posts)soothsayer
(38,601 posts)RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)I cannot imagine this helps him at all.
BamaRefugee
(3,483 posts)We always go out thinking that everyone is a fairly decent person deep inside, we're learning a hard lesson the hard way.
myohmy2
(3,163 posts)" I am so worried about this goddamned election that I'm not only sleeping badly, but I'm grinding my teeth at night! "
...you'll wreck your teeth...no need to go unnecessarily to the dentist with Coronies out there...
...you have good reason to be worried...
...the way I see it, people vote for two reason, money or fear...trump's going to play the, "..looters gonna get ya.." card to the hilt while he hammers away, "..I built this great economy before COVID and only I can do it again.." and by the way, "..no one could have done the Coronie crisis better than me, no one.."...
...meanwhile, back at the ranch, I see shades of 2016...trump's evil, aren't you glad and lucky we're not trump...and remember, take that high road and for god's sake keep your powder dry...as trump tweet's and stages his distractive disruptive shit real-time during our convention...
...people don't care that much about character; they'll vote for Hitler if he'll save them or make them prosperous...as I've said before, the only way to beat trump is to out-trump, trump...trump's been underestimated and practically untouched since 2016...
...and don't forget, "radial Left", "Joe's a Communist" (and Bernie wasn't good enough)...I'll give it at best a 50/50 chance and that makes me worried too...we'll see how the debates go, how aggressive we are, there's mail-in and early voting, but more than likely any decisive shift will occur a few days before the election...half the country hates the other half...no one I know wants to sing kumbaya...
...but then again, I could be wrong...
Turbineguy
(37,331 posts)heavily insured.
Hopefully Kenosha, if the police were cooperating with the Kenosha Militia, has lots of liability insurance.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)At best, all they'll be able to pull out of this one is "damn... what a troubled, mentally unstable white kid he is. I hope he gets treatment"
If they advertise this any louder or any further, it will illustrate the cancers specific and prolific to the right wing.
In effect, the right wing is efficient at instructing their base who to hate, why to hate, and how to hate them. They can't do that if the poster boy for their hatred is a product of their own instruction.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,470 posts)Everything going on and around this election is triggering.
I agree Biden needs to nip this bullshit in the bud.
I am scared of the election and after the election until Biden is sworn in.
When he is sworn in I'll be so happy and the ceasing of all the tension built up I might explode.