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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTurns out, Liberty Univ. is same as Trump Univ.
I'd read some time back about the questionable finances of Liberty. Now it is revealed that WE are
paying for the courses.
It's a diploma mill, pure and simple.
Snip..........By 2017, Liberty students were receiving more than $772 million in total aid from the Department of Education nearly $100 million of it in the form of Pell grants and the rest in federal student loans.
Among universities nationwide, it ranked sixth in federal aid.
Liberty students also received Department of Veterans Affairs benefits, some $42 million in 2016, the most recent year for which figures are available.
Although some of that money went to textbooks and nontuition expenses, a vast majority of Libertys total revenue that year, which was just above $1 billion, came from taxpayer-funded sources.
Snip........Two recruiters told me they were instructed to quote L.U.O.s cost on a per-credit basis,
rather than per-course, which makes it sound more affordable.
Undergraduate courses for part-time students are $455 per credit, or $1,365 for a typical course; masters courses are typically about $600 per credit.
They are instructed not to press prospective applicants too hard on their academic qualifications.
Applicants have to submit past transcripts, but any grade point average above 0.5 equivalent to a D-minus would suffice, said the former employee in the nonmilitary division. Recruiters, he told me, would say, Congratulations, youve been accepted. Theyd make it seem competitive.
And here's the money shot:
it spent just $260 million on instruction, student support, and financial services.
Much much more at link:
https://newrepublic.com/article/159062/jerry-falwell-jr-resigns-liberty-university-trumpian-finances
brooklynite
(93,834 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)no_hypocrisy
(45,764 posts)Lithos
(26,397 posts)n/t
CanonRay
(14,036 posts)Having worked in Education/OIG, I know.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,468 posts)That the University that Jerry Falwell Sr., of the Moral Majority started, was a FRAUD all along?
Who knew?
redstatebluegirl
(12,264 posts)At best they are required to take another course once they are tested.
TheBlackAdder
(28,070 posts).
I forgot the, Mere mortals cannot question God's motives part. It's in there, somewhere.
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Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Educational Structure as U of Pheniox. As mentioned,just a Diploma Mill. You only get what you pay for.
dalton99a
(81,062 posts)Nice scam.
ProfessorGAC
(64,413 posts)The average among private universities is around 53% in 4 years, 65%+ in 6 years.
State & public universities are at 33.3 in 4 years & 57.6 in 6 years.
So, 40% (which might be the average for all year intervals) appears a bit below average. Not terrible.
Now, given the dubious nature of their degrees, it might be way worse than the numbers suggest. But, that's subjective. Nothing we can prove.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)dsc
(52,129 posts)I live not ridiculously far from there and in a place with many evangelicals and teach a good number of seniors. A non trivial number of those who wind up going to Liberty have very low GPAs.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)It's all about the $$$$ and getting student's who can get the loans from the Gov.
pstokely
(10,508 posts)and they have real classes there and far less rules
2naSalit
(86,031 posts)Not.
JDC
(10,081 posts)This kind of fraud is beyond belief.
The Magistrate
(95,237 posts)People who complain about waste and abuse of 'government giveaways' do so because they are sure everyone else has the same warped moral compass they do.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)re-run not long ago. She didn't do very well, but she did get there.