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Can anyone explain why John Kasich is speaking at the Democratic convention? (Original Post) dlk Aug 2020 OP
He doesn't like Trump and we need more republicans like him to vote for Biden? LisaL Aug 2020 #1
Yup and it is symbolic of Biden's pledge of bringing unity. hlthe2b Aug 2020 #8
This! Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #40
and it can help us with Ohio. still_one Aug 2020 #11
+1... If it flips 1 or 10 or 100 republicans it's worth it.. nt mitch96 Aug 2020 #27
That is how I see it... FarPoint Aug 2020 #36
Winning Ohio is possible...it is about unity. Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #2
Is Sherrod Brown on the speakers list? dlk Aug 2020 #15
He hates Trump and all he stands for. nt doc03 Aug 2020 #3
Because Kasich wants to be president in 2024 Botany Aug 2020 #4
And you think speaking at our convention is going to help him to achieve that goal? LisaL Aug 2020 #5
I think he does. leftieNanner Aug 2020 #13
Bingo! Absolutely. 50 Shades Of Blue Aug 2020 #67
Exactly. OnDoutside Aug 2020 #14
Yes. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2020 #19
Yes, John will try to sell the idea that he can work "with both sides." Botany Aug 2020 #26
But you and/or Kasich are underestimating the rabid Repub primary electorate Hav Aug 2020 #28
You might be right and I think John knows that Trump "won" the 2016 primary w/help from Russia too. Botany Aug 2020 #33
Like Huntsman losing the Republican Primary for another run at Governor JI7 Aug 2020 #58
Like Miller, the problem for Kasich is repukes want nothing to do with him . So why are we giving Doremus Aug 2020 #73
Trump supporters don't care about that stuff JI7 Aug 2020 #51
Exactly he's all about himself Tribetime Aug 2020 #71
I don't have a problem with it. Mz Pip Aug 2020 #6
That's exactly what I think is going on. LisaL Aug 2020 #10
It's a big shout out that Democrats are willing to reach out and work with opponents Brother Buzz Aug 2020 #7
It's good. Take the win. underpants Aug 2020 #9
The Democrats are going for moderate Republican voters disgusted by Trump. sop Aug 2020 #12
I agree to a point leftieNanner Aug 2020 #16
To help pull-in some Independents? Laffy Kat Aug 2020 #17
One issue with your comment - the question mark!!!! rufus dog Aug 2020 #61
Yes, and Kasich describes himself as a conservative Republican. Laffy Kat Aug 2020 #69
Absolutely. This is a play for Independents. Especially Ohio Independents. Midnight Writer Aug 2020 #70
don't know, don't care. stillcool Aug 2020 #18
An evangelizing convert can be very powerful JDC Aug 2020 #20
I'd take Romney too. gulliver Aug 2020 #21
Doesn't bother me a bit BannonsLiver Aug 2020 #22
I am sorry you haven't figured it out SiliconValley_Dem Aug 2020 #23
Because he's supporting Joe Biden... brooklynite Aug 2020 #24
This is about family. Kasich can vote for whomever he choses dlk Aug 2020 #25
This is not about family; this is about winning the Presidential Election brooklynite Aug 2020 #41
It is both dlk Aug 2020 #56
It's not about family, it's about winning an election which includes Ohio JI7 Aug 2020 #53
If you know anything about Republicans, and I know many, dlk Aug 2020 #57
Kasich himself is a conservative Republican supporting the democratic ticket JI7 Aug 2020 #59
Trump's corruption wasn't exactly a secret before Republicans made him their nominee dlk Aug 2020 #63
Kasich didn't support Trump in 2016 either JI7 Aug 2020 #65
Wasn't it Zell Miller who switched and spoke at RNC? Roland99 Aug 2020 #29
Yes. DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2020 #31
Which Republican convention did he speak at? dlk Aug 2020 #34
2004. Zell Miller was a Democratic Senator who spoke at RNC Roland99 Aug 2020 #35
Zell Miller and Chris Matthews. What a great exchange that was. I don't remember it exactly but it monmouth4 Aug 2020 #37
He wanted to duel with Matthews. It was really unhinged. Drunken Irishman Aug 2020 #49
HA! I remember now, what a hoot that ole man was. Unhinged was it exactly..LOL. n/t monmouth4 Aug 2020 #52
We Georgians called him Zig Zag Zell. N/T CottonBear Aug 2020 #39
I think those who pretend to be so disgusted about this Hav Aug 2020 #30
What does this have to do with attacking Democrats? dlk Aug 2020 #32
Some would prefer these people support Trump like Joe Rogan is doing JI7 Aug 2020 #50
I know right Kamala4TheWin Aug 2020 #38
Kasich will likely bring in more votes than Beto and Julian combined StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #44
Free food? Baclava Aug 2020 #42
Because he can probably convince some Republicans to vote for Biden StarfishSaver Aug 2020 #43
Because we're trying to win an election DrToast Aug 2020 #45
I agree. He should not have been invited. I would have preferred to ecstatic Aug 2020 #46
Exactly dlk Aug 2020 #47
No thanks, I would rather try to win an election which includes Ohio's electoral votes JI7 Aug 2020 #54
F*ck Kasich. If Biden wins Kasich will attack him nonstop beginning on Inauguration Day. BamaRefugee Aug 2020 #48
Who cares. Biden being President is what matters JI7 Aug 2020 #60
Because Kasich supports and will vote for Joe Biden even though they disagree in issues JI7 Aug 2020 #55
Is he our Zell Miller? aikoaiko Aug 2020 #62
In the make up of the GOP of the past 20 years, Kasich is a moderate. Progressive Jones Aug 2020 #64
It's a fine idea. Music Man Aug 2020 #66
Kasich is a poor choice dlk Aug 2020 #72
I'm fine with it. This election transcends regular party politics Crunchy Frog Aug 2020 #68
I want him to speak. They had their Joementum and Zell Spit Balls. themaguffin Aug 2020 #74

leftieNanner

(14,998 posts)
13. I think he does.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:10 PM
Aug 2020

After we win in November, there will be absolute chaos with the economy in free fall and the virus still rampaging through our country. Kasich is positioning himself to be the "sane" republican who will ride in on his white horse and fix everything in 2024. He's just as toxic as all the other Republicans, just not as stupid and outwardly cruel.

50 Shades Of Blue

(9,777 posts)
67. Bingo! Absolutely.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 10:07 PM
Aug 2020

Kasich is a fucking wolf in sheep's clothing. He knows how to pretend to sound reasonable but he is a rightwinger through and through and he would no more seek "unity" with Democrats if he had a good chance of being elected President than fly to the moon.

Botany

(70,291 posts)
26. Yes, John will try to sell the idea that he can work "with both sides."
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:18 PM
Aug 2020

John is an incredibly manipulative person who believes that Jesus walked on earth so
that he can one day be President.

No way should Kasich be allowed to speak @ the DNC .... I know the he can help in OH
meme but John's folksy "nice guy act" (BTW I know John ... haven't seen him in years)
covers up that he can be ruthless. His dad was a union mail carrier in McKee's Rocks, PA
but that hasn't stopped John from being anti union and and anti USPS too. He is also
a member of ALEC, a Fox News lie-person, and a Koch sucker too.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
28. But you and/or Kasich are underestimating the rabid Repub primary electorate
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:28 PM
Aug 2020

if that is indeed his reasoning. It's possible he might have ambitions but speaking at the Dem convention is a death-knell to winning the Repub primary and every other Repub contender will bash him for it relentlessly.
Likewise, Zell Miller would have had no chance had he run as a Dem after 2004.

Botany

(70,291 posts)
33. You might be right and I think John knows that Trump "won" the 2016 primary w/help from Russia too.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:34 PM
Aug 2020

Kasich is very good @ the spin and he might be able to sell the meme that removing Trump
was the right move in trying to protect and restore America.

JI7

(89,177 posts)
58. Like Huntsman losing the Republican Primary for another run at Governor
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:15 PM
Aug 2020

after serving in Obama admin. And he didn't even support Obama for president .

Doremus

(7,261 posts)
73. Like Miller, the problem for Kasich is repukes want nothing to do with him . So why are we giving
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 12:22 PM
Aug 2020

him precious time at OUR convention again? Dems hate the guy and so do his fellow repukes.

Jesus this is a bad move. So we can appear "united"? That worked well for Obama didn't it. Where is our common sense???

Mz Pip

(27,404 posts)
6. I don't have a problem with it.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:07 PM
Aug 2020

Maybe he will appeal to some disgruntled Republicans.

I want Biden to demolish Trump and we need more than just progressives to do that.

LisaL

(44,962 posts)
10. That's exactly what I think is going on.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:08 PM
Aug 2020

Not all republicans are crazy about Trump.
Someone like Kasich could appeal to those republicans.

 

rufus dog

(8,419 posts)
61. One issue with your comment - the question mark!!!!
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:23 PM
Aug 2020


Will he have any impact on Republicans? Likely very small. That being said, he has the potential to switch more repukes than the net gain of having Beto, etc., speak.

But solidifying the "Indies" that is the key.

Some Indie (Ex REPUKE) is getting hammered when he tells his buddies he is going to vote for Biden, built in retort, John Kasich endorsed him!

It is just a fig leaf for them.

Laffy Kat

(16,356 posts)
69. Yes, and Kasich describes himself as a conservative Republican.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 11:33 PM
Aug 2020

He wrote-in McCain on the 2016 ballot. It sure can't hurt.

gulliver

(13,142 posts)
21. I'd take Romney too.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:13 PM
Aug 2020

At the very least, it would shake up the Fox News bubble world that keeps former Obama-voting Trumpies brainwashed. A good chunk of Never Trumpers voted third party also, and we could use them in the Biden column.

BannonsLiver

(16,162 posts)
22. Doesn't bother me a bit
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:13 PM
Aug 2020

I may not necessarily watch it because there will be a lot of speeches but if it brings more people to vote for Biden it’s worth a few minutes. My advice is if people find it upsetting to take that time to make snacks.

brooklynite

(93,871 posts)
24. Because he's supporting Joe Biden...
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:13 PM
Aug 2020

...and because we don't win States like Ohio with just Democrats

dlk

(11,435 posts)
25. This is about family. Kasich can vote for whomever he choses
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:14 PM
Aug 2020

I don’t think he should get a speaking slot. There are a lot of Republicans who don’t like Trump.

dlk

(11,435 posts)
57. If you know anything about Republicans, and I know many,
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:15 PM
Aug 2020

Then you’ll understand that a speech at our convention by Kasich won’t change any of their minds. They will either vote for Biden or not and we can reach out to them during the campaign. For me, the Democratic convention is about Democrats.

JI7

(89,177 posts)
59. Kasich himself is a conservative Republican supporting the democratic ticket
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:17 PM
Aug 2020

because of trump's corruption.

dlk

(11,435 posts)
63. Trump's corruption wasn't exactly a secret before Republicans made him their nominee
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:43 PM
Aug 2020

If they choose to vote for Biden/Harris, that’s really great. However, I don’t hold out any illusions about who and what Republican Party actually stands for. They have shown us time and time again. As far as I’m concerned, it would be preferable to have our kumbaya moment after the convention.

JI7

(89,177 posts)
65. Kasich didn't support Trump in 2016 either
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:01 PM
Aug 2020

There is no kumbaya moment for anyone.

there are those who hate to see Biden getting supoort becsuse they want him to lose and then there are those who want him to win .

monmouth4

(9,664 posts)
37. Zell Miller and Chris Matthews. What a great exchange that was. I don't remember it exactly but it
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:04 PM
Aug 2020

was great and Chris played it for all it was worth...LOL.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
30. I think those who pretend to be so disgusted about this
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 06:30 PM
Aug 2020

are usually the ones who are mostly occupied with attacking Democrats anyways.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
43. Because he can probably convince some Republicans to vote for Biden
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:46 PM
Aug 2020

I don't have a problem with it.

ecstatic

(32,567 posts)
46. I agree. He should not have been invited. I would have preferred to
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:51 PM
Aug 2020

hear from Lebron James, Oprah, hell, any of our great democratic allies.

That being said, the DNC convention is actually the LAST thing on my mind right now. We need to quickly get through next week and then immediately pivot to the USPS hearings. I love our team and ticket, but it's all meaningless if the game is rigged and our votes aren't counted due to criminal mischief!

JI7

(89,177 posts)
54. No thanks, I would rather try to win an election which includes Ohio's electoral votes
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:05 PM
Aug 2020

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BamaRefugee

(3,476 posts)
48. F*ck Kasich. If Biden wins Kasich will attack him nonstop beginning on Inauguration Day.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 07:55 PM
Aug 2020

He’s among the worst of the worst.

JI7

(89,177 posts)
55. Because Kasich supports and will vote for Joe Biden even though they disagree in issues
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:09 PM
Aug 2020

becsuse Kasich thinks Trump is worse for the country than someone he disagrees with on issues.

He is actually supporting the democratic ticket unlike the scumbag trolls from 2016 that booed Hillary Clinton, John lewis and other (mostly black) Democrats and ended up supporting Trump because they claimed the democratic candidate wasn't progressive.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
64. In the make up of the GOP of the past 20 years, Kasich is a moderate.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 08:47 PM
Aug 2020

Moderate Republicans hate Trump. They also hate the low ratings of the current GOP in Congress.


Like it, or not, this nation is going to need help from both sides of the aisle to right the ship.
Not just in regards to the Trump mess, but for years down the road.

Music Man

(1,181 posts)
66. It's a fine idea.
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 09:16 PM
Aug 2020

Not everyone's a Democrat in this country, and having a member of the opposing party stand up and speak for Biden is a way of sticking it to them. It's a way of saying that Donald Trump is too batshit crazy.

We need to get over our purity. Kasich isn't going to be up there spouting Republican policies. He's going to vouch for Biden's character, experience, family, and saneness vs. Donald Trump's. It helps reinforce an overarching narrative about Biden.

dlk

(11,435 posts)
72. Kasich is a poor choice
Mon Aug 17, 2020, 11:51 AM
Aug 2020

He is an extremist and I, for one, have had more than enough of Republican extremists. There are other ways to reach across the aisle without lending credibility to any Republican extremists.

Crunchy Frog

(26,548 posts)
68. I'm fine with it. This election transcends regular party politics
Sun Aug 16, 2020, 10:10 PM
Aug 2020

and normal partisanship.

Having principled Republicans participating in the campaign will hopefully help to communicate that to the electorate.

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