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octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 09:53 AM Aug 2020

Trump's going to declare victory in states based on in person voting results

then sue to block and invalidate mail in ballots based on fraud. He’s already assembled a team of lawyers and it’s why he’s saying he can win NY( still don’t think it’s possible)What a gigantic shitshow this is going to be.


Edit to add: we will prevail but it’s gonna be a damn mess.

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Trump's going to declare victory in states based on in person voting results (Original Post) octoberlib Aug 2020 OP
And when he is losing then what . .. Iliyah Aug 2020 #1
Their thinking is that only MAGA will show up octoberlib Aug 2020 #3
Russia can't hack the mail in ballots!! sunflowerseed Aug 2020 #2
GOP officials can dump them in red states. octoberlib Aug 2020 #4
And they were all caught. Kaleva Aug 2020 #12
He can try. FM123 Aug 2020 #5
Good! I know Mark Elias is already on it. octoberlib Aug 2020 #6
Yes! And since he was Hillary's general counsel in 2016 this is not his first "election theft" rodeo FM123 Aug 2020 #7
Thx for posting this..there is no way dotard is going to steal the election thru his insane plans Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #18
It would be helpful if the major networks refrain from calling any states on election night HotTeaBag Aug 2020 #8
So vote in person. I intend to...and I believe he will lose badly both with in person and Demsrule86 Aug 2020 #9
Edit to also add: this is a possibility, not a likely scenario. marble falls Aug 2020 #10
It isn't up to the candidates to decide who won or lost. Kaleva Aug 2020 #11
Exactly! He Can ask for recounts if close, otherwise he really has no recourse Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #16
If he loses the Florida election day count he is finished. Period. Tom Rinaldo Aug 2020 #13
I think NC does. octoberlib Aug 2020 #14
Thst's an important one. Tom Rinaldo Aug 2020 #15
NC has become increasingly early in person voting unc70 Aug 2020 #19
Exactly!! A voice of sanity...thank you Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #17
He can also declare himself king. What's your point? LisaL Aug 2020 #20

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
3. Their thinking is that only MAGA will show up
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 09:59 AM
Aug 2020

to in person vote based on polls. I think he’s wrong . I also think Democrat run states are getting systems in place to prevent chaos.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
7. Yes! And since he was Hillary's general counsel in 2016 this is not his first "election theft" rodeo
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 10:13 AM
Aug 2020

Thekaspervote

(32,765 posts)
18. Thx for posting this..there is no way dotard is going to steal the election thru his insane plans
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 11:50 AM
Aug 2020

Once again he thinks hein charge... nope!!

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
8. It would be helpful if the major networks refrain from calling any states on election night
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 10:17 AM
Aug 2020

based on the in-person voting and exit polls.

I am hoping they hold back as it's the right thing to do, but I fear they want the protracted legal fight for ratings and will call states based on the limited vote count.

Demsrule86

(68,565 posts)
9. So vote in person. I intend to...and I believe he will lose badly both with in person and
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 10:19 AM
Aug 2020

mail in ballots.

Thekaspervote

(32,765 posts)
16. Exactly! He Can ask for recounts if close, otherwise he really has no recourse
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 11:45 AM
Aug 2020

SCOTUS conservative or not is not going to go along with throwing out mail in ballots or having to wait to declare a winner

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
13. If he loses the Florida election day count he is finished. Period.
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 11:10 AM
Aug 2020

Or Ohio, or any other significant state he won in 2016. It won't matter at that point if official calls can't be made in states that largely voted absentee. The handwriting would be starkly written on the wall st that point.

Does anyone know which states start legally counting mail in votes received prior to election day rather than having to wait until the morning of election day in order to start counting them? New York State, where I live, can't begin counting absentee votes until 7:00 AM on election day, and so the mail in vote totals are delayed by days if not weeks. Some states however release the tallies of early mail in votes while continuing to count those that came in on or after election day (according to their cut off date).

If enough states where early mail in votes totals can be reported on election night swing to Biden, all of Trump's protests will ring totally hollow.

Tom Rinaldo

(22,912 posts)
15. Thst's an important one.
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 11:29 AM
Aug 2020

If Biden is leading in NC based on the combined total of election day vote and early mail in vote count totals, that I believe would sink Trump's conspiracy arguments. I am assuming that the vast majority of mail in votes will be tabulated and released election day night in NC if it allows early counting of absentee ballots. At that point there is no credible logic to argue that mail in votes that came in just under the wire would look any different than ones that came in days earlier because of alleged "fraud".

unc70

(6,113 posts)
19. NC has become increasingly early in person voting
Sat Aug 15, 2020, 12:17 PM
Aug 2020

During early voting, it allows same day registration. NC also allows address changes including on Election Day

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