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Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:06 PM

How can we arrange a nationwide across-the-board strike

Seriously. I have no idea on where to start or who to talk to.

This is what brought Solidarnosc into power in Poland. Strikes work.

I'd suggest a time frame like the dates of the GOP convention, but clearly way too soon.

We need to hurt the money backers of the GOP to feel some real pain. We partially shut down the economy for Coronavirus. Let's do it for real.

Who can help?

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Reply How can we arrange a nationwide across-the-board strike (Original post)
relayerbob Aug 12 OP
progressive nobody Aug 12 #1
relayerbob Aug 12 #6
TreasonousBastard Aug 12 #2
relayerbob Aug 12 #5
TreasonousBastard Aug 12 #8
relayerbob Aug 12 #9
TreasonousBastard Aug 12 #11
soothsayer Aug 12 #3
relayerbob Aug 12 #4
soothsayer Aug 12 #7
relayerbob Aug 12 #10
GulfCoast66 Aug 12 #12
Codeine Aug 12 #13
PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 13 #14
NBachers Aug 13 #15
MoonlitKnight Aug 14 #16
relayerbob Aug 14 #18
relayerbob Aug 14 #19
McCamy Taylor Aug 14 #17

Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:08 PM

1. Get the unions to start walk outs.

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Response to progressive nobody (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:20 PM

6. Agreed

I don't know any union leaders.

Do any read DU?

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:16 PM

2. We can't.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Great-Railroad-Strike-of-1877


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The strikes dissipated, first and foremost, because the federal army did not break. Unlike the militias, those professional soldiers stayed together and followed orders. The strikes also collapsed because, despite the fears of the industrialists and the government, they were not organized uprisings but rather spontaneous outbursts. Once the anger of the strikers and crowds had run its course, so too did the revolt. There had been no leaders with greater political vision to take command of the strikers.

More than 100,000 workers participated in the Great Railroad Strike of 1877, at the height of which more than half the freight on the countryís tracks had come to a halt. By the time the strikes were over, about 1,000 people had gone to jail and some 100 had been killed. In the end the strike accomplished very little. Some national politicians talked of labour reforms, but nothing came of it. Industrialists continued to cut wages and break unions. In a few years the Great Railroad Strike of 1877 was all but forgotten.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:19 PM

5. Not 1877 any more

It has brought down many governments in the century since

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:26 PM

8. But not ours. Unions have far less power than they had in the past and we can't even get...

people to wear masks-- we're going to get them to strike?

A strike of any kind is expensive, and if we can get little support for organizing at Amazon or Walmart, how we gonna get support for a national strike?

Cheaper and easier to buy a few Congressmen. That's what the other side does.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:30 PM

9. That's pretty defeatist

Thanks, maybe someone else will have some better suggestions

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:34 PM

11. It's not defeatist-- it's realistic. We can get things done, we just have to find out how...

We'll have a lot more success getting out the vote and firing these bastards.

Then we may not have to strike.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:16 PM

3. Maybe we should work to GOTV

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:19 PM

4. Already am

Won't help if we can't vote

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Response to relayerbob (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:25 PM

7. So maybe make good trouble to get businesses to decry the postal shenanigans?

I donít know how exactly, but drumpf would react to negative feedback from businesses or to stories about businesses failing because of the USPS debacle.

Assuming itís the USPS thatís keeping us from voting.

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #7)

Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:31 PM

10. Yes, that's the point of a general strike

But how do we get this out there.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:39 PM

12. We aren't the French. It's not in our political DNA.

Focus on getting out the vote.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Wed Aug 12, 2020, 10:44 PM

13. It won't start with one internet rando

asking a handful of other Internet randos how to do it; were a general strike that simple we would have already managed them.

Solidarity was successful because it started as a single trade union in an industry that was both geographically concentrated (the shipyards in Gdańsk) and utterly essential to the economy, formed after decades of repression that makes what weíre experiencing seem like kindergarten. Thatís a confluence of events that is incredibly rare, and is probably not a model one should assume is applicable to any given situation.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:26 AM

14. Sorry, this is not a country in which a general strike can happen.

Lots of reasons.

Weak unions for one.

No sense of across the board solidarity for another.

A huge gap between working classes and everyone else for yet another.

It's a nice idea, but won't happen.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Thu Aug 13, 2020, 12:39 AM

15. I'm a 71 year old Senior who's lucky to still have a job to go to, and an affordable place to live

in the city, and enough food to eat. If I don't work, I lose all this. Please don't volunteer me. I've been homeless; I've been hungry; I've broken the law and done major time in prison trying to support my family, which I lost. I know brutal reality. I ain't goin' back.

Sorry to be a brutal realist. Spare me your counter-arguments or accusations.

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Fri Aug 14, 2020, 11:41 AM

16. Apparently September 1 is the date

Not sure how many will participate or if it will fizzle out.

If you think it has a chance of happening, refill those prescriptions.

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Response to MoonlitKnight (Reply #16)

Fri Aug 14, 2020, 02:10 PM

18. Thank you

Do you have a link for further info?

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Response to MoonlitKnight (Reply #16)

Fri Aug 14, 2020, 02:11 PM

19. I'm seeing some others for that date

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Response to relayerbob (Original post)

Fri Aug 14, 2020, 11:46 AM

17. Also find out who donates to Trump and boycott

their products.

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