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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsso basically rachel is doing her best
to convince everybody that we have sunk to the level of belarus or north korea and that Trump will be reelected.. A bit hyperbolic.
elleng
(130,768 posts)teach1st
(5,932 posts)Rachel Maddow is comparing what Trump is attempting to do by strong-arming intelligence, and manipulating the post office and justice department with an eye on maintaining power with how foreign dictators remain in power.
The footage of Belarus law-enforcement's treatment of protesters is way too close to what's happening here. We do need to pay attention to what Trump is doing to circumvent and beat down United States norms.
drray23
(7,619 posts)She was saying that these dictators used to control the vote and be reelected with silly numbers like 99 %.
there is no way whatsover we will have that here. States control elections and I cznt see California for example report 99 % for Trump..
in all of these countries the dictators control the votes. that is not the case here. of course he is going to try to cheat, deligitimize it and so on .
As far as the feds goon squads that too is being squashed after the pushback. Trump maybe a wannabee dictator but he does not have the brains and means to do as much.
teach1st
(5,932 posts)And I agree about Trump not having the brains. I've posted that often.
But she didn't compare as much as show parallels. Trump can't control the vote like entrenched dictators. He's not even a dictator - yet. But he sure as hell is trying.
I don't think we need to panic. I think we need to be aware of history and how dictators do consolidate power.
drray23
(7,619 posts)still_one
(92,061 posts)triron
(21,984 posts)Last 4 years.
still_one
(92,061 posts)enough
(13,255 posts)I dont go to news for wish-fulfillment.
still_one
(92,061 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,313 posts)SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)take a current news story, amp up the hyperbolic language and hyperventilating speculation, then come up with 37 ways to say the same news bite differently and you've gone full Maddow.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Once she repeats exactly the same thing, then you've got full Rachel
SiliconValley_Dem
(1,656 posts)Demovictory9
(32,423 posts)I know she means well
steve2470
(37,457 posts)She's provided examples of authoritarianism, and warned us that Trump can and probably will use all his means to win.
Exhibit A: Slowing down mail service so mail-in ballots are not counted after the deadline.
Trump DOES have a strong authoritarian streak. We are lucky he is not a lot smarter.
still_one
(92,061 posts)wiggs
(7,810 posts)a normal, law-abiding manner. I have no problem with people running around with their hair on fire, warning us of a continuation and acceleration of the most corrupt, immoral, arrogant use of power we've ever seen.
Not that Rachel is exaggerating, because she's not.
kacekwl
(7,014 posts)Are just coincidence I guess. The corruption is real and deep please don't dismiss it.
drray23
(7,619 posts)i know Trump is going to try to steal the election but there are things he cant manage to do here that established and smart dictators can.
for example, the federal government does not run or control elections unlike all these other countries.
he is trying to mess with usps but that too will backfire. its going to suppress as many gop votes than ours. many states will and do count all the mail in ballots before the election. people are aware of the crap trump is trying to pull and will request ballots early. in many states you can drop it ahead of time at registrar office or ballot drop boxes. young people are going to vote in mass this time and likely in person. we registered more dems than ever.
rockfordfile
(8,699 posts)Wanderlust988
(509 posts)She's been doing this for years. It's her shtick. If you believed over the years, not a single Dem would've won any election since she's been on the air. I understand she is bringing attention to these issues, but she has a flare for the dramatic. I wouldn't get too caught up into Rachel.
mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)enlightening. The bashing of her tonight seems suspect. What needs to be focused on is how similar the things happening is our country, daily, resemble what is happening with those associated with Putin. Drumpf is who needs to be dissected. He is a puppet carrying out orders for the destruction of our government, initiated by those who surround him. We are headed for .
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)I want my vote to be counted on Nov. 3rd, not tossed out by some illegal executive order or technicality trump, Kemp, etc, caused.
I'll wear my mask and take my sanitizing wipes. I'll fight fascism 11/3.
drray23
(7,619 posts)here in virginia you can also vote absentee in person well ahead of time at the registrar office in my little rural town, there is usually nobody there when i go. just two employees. they scan your ballot in front of you.
Silent3
(15,152 posts)There IS bad news to deliver, and there ARE serious concerns we should have.
This is NOT the same as saying "we have sunk to the level of belarus or north korea and that Trump will be reelected".
But it is a real risk that Trump and the Republicans will employ enough Belarus-like tactics to put Trump back in office. It CAN happen. Take it seriously, do what you can to fight it, and don't blame the messenger.
tman
(983 posts)ecstatic
(32,653 posts)Between Morning Joe, Rachel, and the other shows, it kind of feels like trump is attacking us from every angle and nothing is being done about it.
I'm going to do my part and get everyone I know to vote as quickly as humanly possible so that the votes can be tallied BEFORE election day. It still sucks that we're at this point.
Once the ability to vote is taken from us, the only recourse left will be violence.
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