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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,455 posts)
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:26 PM Jul 2020

Will Americans Buy Trump's Claims About Mail Voting Fraud?

President Trump on Thursday railed against expanding access to mail-in voting, and even floated the idea that the election could be postponed, something he has no legal authority to do.

Top Republicans were quick to dismiss the suggestion of putting off Election Day — but Democrats went further, calling it evidence that the president would stop at nothing to throw doubt on the validity of an election that he currently appears likely to lose.

At this moment of coronavirus-driven insecurity, where do Americans stand on voting by mail? And how many might be persuaded, as the president argues, that the election’s very legitimacy is in doubt?

Recent polling shows that Americans now overwhelmingly support universal access to mail-in voting. In national surveys from the past few months, all taken after Mr. Trump began attacking the idea as dangerous, upward of six in 10 respondents have said that they would favor making absentee voting universally available.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/will-americans-buy-trumps-claims-about-mail-voting-fraud/ar-BB17pJFT?li=BBnb7Kz

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Claustrum

(4,846 posts)
4. Well, they have been taught to think they are different things for years
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:34 PM
Jul 2020

I still remember back in 2015-2016 that some people are interviewed on tv and they praised their state version of ACA. Then next question, they asked if they support ObamaCare and they don't. They are literally the same thing.

I am sure you still can't convince them to this day that they are the same thing. Same situation is happening here.

randr

(12,418 posts)
3. I would add a line or two
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:30 PM
Jul 2020

Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds. While the Postal Service has no official motto, the popular belief that it does is a tribute to America's postal workers.

Shermann

(7,488 posts)
5. Are there any crimes with a worse risk-reward ratio than voter fraud?
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:40 PM
Jul 2020

Criminals can be stupid, but are generally not THAT stupid. Each count is a felony with up to a year of imprisonment. That's just to flip one lousy vote.

The only conceivable way voter fraud can be a real threat is through a serious vulnerability exploited by a hack of some sort, with foreign agents being the likely culprits. But that unlikely hypothetical threat can conceivably exist with or without mail voting.

Rampant mail voting fraud by Americans is an oxymoron.

This is not about a proportional response to a real threat. This is Trump's dog whistle designed to get the barking dogs to sic. Bite the bad guy or he will take the toys I gave you away.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
6. Some will, what is concerning are the right wing extremist groups.
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 01:46 PM
Jul 2020

What will they do when they lose "biggly", will the become armed militias and take to the streets? No democrat is going to believe it, but some independents who think both parties cheat will without constant reminding.

SWBTATTReg

(22,205 posts)
7. I would not put it pass any white supremacist groups to start gutting on the street ...
Fri Jul 31, 2020, 02:23 PM
Jul 2020

US Mail boxes (the drop in mail type) to steal the mail and destroy it, so the vote by mail ballots (if any) won't make it in to be counted. Unless it is physically located in a building (the drop off site) that probably more secure and safer.

It's of course far better to protect one's self and vote in person.

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