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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Butcher of Mar-a-Lago's hoax ended the lives of another 1,000 Americans today
The Butcher of Mar-a-Lago's hoax has now brutally slaughtered 3,834,050% more Americans than died in the Benghazi.
That is the equivalent of one Benghazi attack every single day for the next 105 years and 16 days.
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)But at least some of the dead would have died no matter who the president was. People are dying all over the world in places that Trump does not control. Trump has made it much worse but it's silly to attribute each and every death to Trump.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)It happened on his watch.
The buck stops with him.
He is responsible.
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)Europe for every death in their countries? And if Hillary Clinton would have won the election would you have blamed her for every death? This is a disease without a cure and no matter what any world leader does people will die. But yes on the other hand, Trump and his lies and incompetence have made it much worse. But no matter who had been president there would have been deaths but probably not as many as we have had under Trump.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)And I would blame them for the deaths.
Im not being dishonest.
They are the ultimate stop gap for protection of the lives of their people. They should do everything in their power to save them. And in most instances they are.
Like the PM of New Zealand. Thats what effective leadership looks like.
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)less than ours but there were deaths. So you hold out the PM of New Zealand as an example but you still blame her for deaths that did happen from a disease for which there is no cure? I think that the blame game is not getting us anywhere. We need to concentrate on the here and now and doing what we can now to reduce deaths as much as we can. And of course Trump is not doing that.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Including New Zealand.
So I wouldnt give her a pass and say she is perfect.
But she rightly was upset about the death and took responsibility for leading the country through it using empathy, science, and evidence.
I dont really think you have any leg to stand on frankly.
Have a nice night.
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Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)There are five factors that led to over hundreds of thousands of Americans needlessly dying
1 Trump ignored the threat
Trump sent out 1,795 tweets in the months of January and February and not a single one of them was to warn Americans about the pandemic even after he was briefed on how widespread and deadly it was predicted to be, but he did manage to send out a few hundred Tweets to gossip about what he saw on TV during those months.
2 Trump intentionally manufactured drama inundating our airports with infected travelers
When he did finally begin tweeting about the COVID-19 pandemic he used it to manufacture drama and chaos at airports causing our international airports to flood unscreened infected passengers into our nation's cities resulting death trolls three times higher than the next closest nation.
3 Trump tried to force our country to return back to normal with no regard for reality
Trump Encourages Mask-less Protests Against Governors Who Have Imposed Virus Restrictions
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/17/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-governors.html
It is factually undeniable that Trump is a greater threat to American lives that Al Qaeda or ISIS.
4 Trump went out of his way to make wearing live saving masks political
If Trump didn't start his War on Masks this pandemic would have been contained in the Untied States already, but he just couldn't help himself ... Full On Dоuchebag is his only mode of operation.
and lastly
5 Trump believes crises are meant to be exploited for TV ratings
Trump still can not comprehend that crises are problems which need to addressed and solved with the upmost sense of urgency. Whenever a crisis arises he instantly going into Used Car Salesman Mode and tries to con it away, as if he can make a crisis go away by selling it like a used car on the lot.
Pick a crisis ... any crisis
No matter what crisis you picked, based on past experience we can guarantee with the upmost certainty that Trump will make that crisis worse
totodeinhere
(13,059 posts)That's what I have a problem with because while he is responsible for many deaths he is not responsible for all deaths. Exaggerations like yours just give the other side talking points.
The Magistrate
(95,264 posts)All it gets you is a thin smile while your knees are smashed.
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empedocles
(15,751 posts)Response to Snake Plissken (Original post)
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malaise
(269,278 posts)The Butcher of Mar-a-Lago's hoax