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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 01:30 PM Jul 2020

Trump Surrenders!

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/29/us/protests-portland-federal-withdrawal.html

That’s what the headline should read. Great job Portland!

Federal tactical teams that have clashed with protesters in Portland in recent weeks will soon begin leaving the city, Gov. Kate Brown of Oregon said Wednesday.

Under an agreement between Ms. Brown and the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the governor’s office said the Oregon State Police will provide security for the exterior of the city’s federal courthouse, while the usual team of federal officers that protects the courthouse year-round will continue to provide security for the interior of the building.
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kentuck

(111,111 posts)
2. He simply does not have the "troops" to send to all the cities that he wants...
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 01:34 PM
Jul 2020

So, they are withdrawing them so they can deploy to another city. It is a political calculation.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
5. Agree
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 01:43 PM
Jul 2020

He’s going to send them to a more republican leaning city than Portland, in a more republican leaning state. That’ll more likely get him what he’s looking - to paint the protestors as anarchists that aren’t welcome by their respective communities and the feds as the “liberators”, which supports his law and order narrative.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
11. It's not polling well
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 02:41 PM
Jul 2020

I suspect the polling wasn't playing out in their favor and so they have to change tactics. Even GOP congress and senators were being critical.

jayfish

(10,040 posts)
4. Let's Hold Off Hanging "Mission Accomplished" Banner...
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 01:41 PM
Jul 2020

until they are actually gone. Trump can, and probably will, throw a tantrum at any second and upset the whole applecart.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
6. I disagree. When dealing with a bully
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 01:58 PM
Jul 2020

You beat them as hard as you can so they won’t bully again.

jayfish

(10,040 posts)
7. Well...
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 02:04 PM
Jul 2020
Acting Secretary Wolf's Statement on Oregon Agreeing to Cooperate in Quelling Portland Violence


Federal law enforcement officers will continue their mission

Over the past 24 hours, Governor Brown and I have been in regular communication and have agreed to a joint plan to end the violent activity in Portland directed at federal properties and law enforcement officers. That plan includes a robust presence of Oregon State Police in downtown Portland. State and local law enforcement will begin securing properties and streets, especially those surrounding federal properties, that have been under nightly attack for the past two months. Oregon State Police will coordinate with Federal Protective Service (FPS) officers to ensure all federal facilities remain protected and secure.

This plan is possible due to the valiant efforts of the DHS law enforcement officers protecting federal property in Portland from violent activity for the past two months.

The Department will continue to maintain our current, augmented federal law enforcement personnel in Portland until we are assured that the Hatfield Federal Courthouse and other federal properties will no longer be attacked and that the seat of justice in Portland will remain secure. This has been our mission and objective since the violent, criminal activity began.

The Department will continue to re-evaluate our security posture in Portland, and should circumstances on the ground significantly improve due to the influx of state and local law enforcement, we anticipate the ability to change our force posture, as we do everyday at our other 9,000 federal properties we protect across the country.

President Trump and this Administration have been consistent in our message throughout the violence in Portland: the violent criminal activity directed towards federal properties and law enforcement will not be tolerated, state and local leaders must step forward and police their communities, and the Department of Homeland Security will not back down from our legal duty to protect federal law enforcement officers and federal properties in the face of such criminal behavior.

President Trump has also made clear that this Administration is ready and willing to partner with state and local law enforcement to protect every American – and you see that commitment in Portland with this plan. The Department and this Administration will also continue to fulfill its solemn obligation to uphold federal law across the country.
 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
13. That means the Feds are complying with the state government.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 03:10 PM
Jul 2020

They weren’t before. That is a win for the people.

Demsrule86

(68,774 posts)
18. No he didn't. This is why they are leaving...we have so much footage showing the abuse of
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 07:48 PM
Jul 2020

Mom's,Dad's, vets and protesters.

sarisataka

(18,883 posts)
9. So state police will take over for the feds
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 02:32 PM
Jul 2020

Which will be different. It reminds me of song lyrics-

The tower falls, the flag is changed
The new one still looks much the same.

Grasswire2

(13,575 posts)
10. MISLEADING and I encourage you to correct.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 02:35 PM
Jul 2020

Only the CBP and ICE will be leaving.

The mercenary goons will remain.

See Chad Wolf's statement at the link below.



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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
12. The FPS will remain inside the building and not police outside
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 02:57 PM
Jul 2020

That is what the NYT article says as well. So how is this misleading?

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
15. I did. And I'm. It inclined to believe a word that comes from the admin
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 06:51 PM
Jul 2020

And I have friends in Portland.

Grasswire2

(13,575 posts)
16. Local KGW NBC Portland just covered the story fresh and says "WITH CONDITIONS MET"
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 07:31 PM
Jul 2020

DHS has put CONDITIONS ON ANY SUCH AGREEMENT. Statement from Wolf this afternoon.

Knowing people in Portland is not LIVING IN PORTLAND.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
20. Governor Brown's own statements on RMS contradict your reporting.
Wed Jul 29, 2020, 10:29 PM
Jul 2020

You might not want to appear so desperate to be right on this point.

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