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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 11:44 AM Jul 2020

In general, I support Rep. Nadler, HOWEVER-----

---why in hell did he allow Jordan to violate both his allotted time period AND THE ADOPTED POLICIES OF THE COMMITTEE regarding audio-visual exhibits!?!? Specifically, after Jordan's entire 10 minute or so selectively edited video was played, Nadler announced that Jordan had not provided the "required" (really?) 48 hour advance notice!

Jordan just pissed on you, Mr. Nadler, and you have responded with "tsk-tsk"!

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In general, I support Rep. Nadler, HOWEVER----- (Original Post) Atticus Jul 2020 OP
Seems like that happens all the time soothsayer Jul 2020 #1
We need to get rid of Gym Jordan. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #2
Don't Ask For Permission & Don't Follow The Rules.... global1 Jul 2020 #3
I have the same issue with Nadler. crickets Jul 2020 #4
I'm not jumping on Nadler. He is not a problem. No screaming match with Jordon. Ninga Jul 2020 #5
The notion that our only alternatives are to either let Jordan do whatever he pleases or Atticus Jul 2020 #10
I understand. Only the hard core Tumpers love Jordon. The independents and those disgusted Ninga Jul 2020 #12
Nadler is doing fine... agingdem Jul 2020 #11
Your comments are all accurate IF the audience is as informed as those on this board. To the Atticus Jul 2020 #13
so tell me who's watching?... agingdem Jul 2020 #14
Steve Cohen was great. nt Atticus Jul 2020 #15
Look...I've been around for a very long time agingdem Jul 2020 #16
I nailed up my first Democratic campaign posters in the 1950s, so I have also "been around Atticus Jul 2020 #17
maybe not what he wants but given who the actors are agingdem Jul 2020 #18
we've got it under control... agingdem Jul 2020 #21
We Faux pas Jul 2020 #6
Wouldn't be polite to interrupt him Miguelito Loveless Jul 2020 #7
K&R, we have to uphold boundaries and reset them when Republicans go past them. uponit7771 Jul 2020 #8
Dems always play nice and expect repubs to also. they never do. we never learn. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2020 #9
And I thought the video was "looping", repeating some sections over and over. SharonAnn Jul 2020 #19
Because if he didn't allow Gym Jordan to be a shit stain... WyattKansas Jul 2020 #20

global1

(25,294 posts)
3. Don't Ask For Permission & Don't Follow The Rules....
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 11:51 AM
Jul 2020

just ask for 'forgiveness' after you break the rules. You know the insincere/I pulled one over on you kind.

crickets

(25,990 posts)
4. I have the same issue with Nadler.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 11:53 AM
Jul 2020

Repubs roll over him far too easily, they know they can get away with it, and Nadler's pushback is always too little too late. Love the guy, but he doesn't enforce the rules strongly enough.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
10. The notion that our only alternatives are to either let Jordan do whatever he pleases or
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:09 PM
Jul 2020

engage in a "screaming match" with him is pretty short-sighted. He could have simply interrupted---as the chair responsible for enforcing rules---and declined to permit the video without the required 48 hour notice. Had Jordan started screaming, he could have silenced his mikd or ordered him removed.

Hard-nosed? You damn betcha! Exactly what Jordan's smarmy nonsense call for.

Ninga

(8,282 posts)
12. I understand. Only the hard core Tumpers love Jordon. The independents and those disgusted
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:22 PM
Jul 2020

with Trumple will not find him nor his looped video charming.

agingdem

(7,874 posts)
11. Nadler is doing fine...
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:13 PM
Jul 2020

the Dems are prepared for this...the optics speak for themselves...GOP grandstanding...that's all they've got...Barr looks like a schoolyard bully...we all knew he was going to lie, claim executive privilege, sneer, gaslight, parse, bullshit...this plays to the orange maggot's base...that's about it...the GOP owns this shit show...

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
13. Your comments are all accurate IF the audience is as informed as those on this board. To the
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:38 PM
Jul 2020

"average citizen", however, Jordan was "strong" and Nadler got rolled. At some level, people simply respect strength. Like George W. Bush, they just "don't do nuance".

agingdem

(7,874 posts)
14. so tell me who's watching?...
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:03 PM
Jul 2020

political junkies like you and me...Trump's base...very few...Jordan was loud, caustic and over the top but not strong...and admit it ..Barr looks small and angry...he's got all those buffoons screeching and huffing and buffing but do you hear a defense?......and while he's in the "hot seat" he's being slammed on social media and 24/7 new channels...and the fat bastard couldn't hold his bladder for more than an hour...like I said Nadler is doing ok...btw...did you hear Steve Cohen?

agingdem

(7,874 posts)
16. Look...I've been around for a very long time
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:20 PM
Jul 2020

this is what Nadler and our guys want ...Gym the snarling hyena and an angry spittled Barr trapped in the hot seat about to pee his pants....ok Gym you've had your screaming shit show...time to sit down and shut up...the grown ups have taken the floor

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
17. I nailed up my first Democratic campaign posters in the 1950s, so I have also "been around
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:44 PM
Jul 2020

for a very long time", but I---respectfully---disagree that "this is what Nadler wants". It is what he allows.

agingdem

(7,874 posts)
18. maybe not what he wants but given who the actors are
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:47 PM
Jul 2020

this is not an unexpected outcome..this is the GOP playbook...the committee has read it and we've read it...Jordan screams, Collins calls Nadler's legitimacy as chair into question and the show goes on...

agingdem

(7,874 posts)
21. we've got it under control...
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 02:31 PM
Jul 2020

our guys are doing what they should have done in previous hearings...yes or no questions, and the follow-up "tell me, dude, were you asleep in law school when the prof covered legal versus criminal... and that Constitution thing, did you read it?"...and then shutting Barr up in mid lie...

Miguelito Loveless

(4,477 posts)
7. Wouldn't be polite to interrupt him
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:02 PM
Jul 2020

Doncha know?

Seriously, could we have a few hard asses who would enforce rules with even a tenth of the ardor they are enforced by the GOP when they run the table.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
20. Because if he didn't allow Gym Jordan to be a shit stain...
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 02:21 PM
Jul 2020

Jordan and all of the Republicans there would have thrown a tantrum and escalated a pathetic excuse to disrupt and shut down the Hearing, with Wild Billy Barr throwing his hands up and saying I don't have time for all of these nonsense games as he walked out.

Wild Billy Barr would have come off like a 'noble' servant just trying to do his job, while being disrupted by Congress. Don't think for one minute that Republicans don't get together with tRUMP's henchmen to bait the Democratic Party into shooting themselves in the foot.

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