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We figured it couldnt be that bad. Yeah...https://thebanter.substack.com/p/i-went-on-vacation-to-trump-country
Last summer, my extended family and I (Deb and the kids, Claudia and Lila), took our first family vacation to Great Wolf Lodge and it was awesome. The kids had a great time. The adults had a great time. It was a lot of fun and low stress. Not every family vacations well together but we do and we were immediately excited for our next summer vacation. We were going to rent a cabin down in the Outer Banks one summer. We were going to go up to New York City and show the kids the sites another. We were going to go to Disney. Finally! Weve all been dreaming of taking the kids to Disney for years but didnt have the money and we would, at long last, be able to go. And then the coronavirus nuked the entire summer. We had actually made plans to go to NYC at the end of June, right after school ended and before it got too hot. We were going to go to the Statue of Liberty, the top of the Empire State Building, see a Broadway play, visit some family, eat a lot of NYC food, it was going to be a rather busy week. We might have needed a vacation from our vacation. But, no. Weve been stuck mostly indoors for months. So when Claudia mentioned going to see the Natural Bridge here in Virginia, we said, Pack your bags! Were going! We figured it couldnt be that bad. Yeah...
Deep In The Heart Of Trump Humper Country
Claudia had warned me that we were heading deep into Trump country. Natural Bridge (its both a town and a landmark) is well into the Shenandoah Valley area, about a three and a half hour drive from where I live in Alexandria. If you have not had the chance to visit Shenandoah Valley, you should. Its lovely; especially in the Fall when the trees turn into a parade of colors. A little less lovely was the number of Trump/Pence 2020 signs peppering the lawns of pretty much every other house as we drew near our destination. Curiously, I didnt see a lot of bumper stickers but I also didnt see a lot of cars, either. I also didnt see a single MAGA hat the entire time we were there. This lends some support to my pet theory that MAGA hats are performative. People only wear them to get a reaction. If youre in a town where 90% of your neighbors are also devoted Trumpers, why bother announcing it? Its one thing to have a yard sign for traffic passing through the city, but walking around town? Meh. Not so much. Speaking of the town, Natural Bridge and the town next to it, Glasgow, are quite small. Between the two, the population is about 2600. By way of comparison, the three elementary schools within four blocks of my apartment have about 2000 students. If you add the middle school a few blocks further, we have a larger population of school kids under the age of 14 within a mile of us than the entire population of both towns together. So, not heavily populated. And yet, its towns just like this that are the most at risk. Sure, they dont have the population density of a New York City or Houston or Los Anglees, but they also dont have the resources to deal with an outbreak. Worse, the political attitude of the MAGAs all but guarantee the spread of Covid-19. And thats exactly what we saw while we were there.
Natural Wonder And Manmade Stupidity
First, when all of this is over and the coronavirus is under control, definitely go see the Natural Bridge. It is goddamn amazing. Also walk the trail under it that leads to the waterfall. Its a nice ¾ mile walk and a lot of beautiful scenery. I would post pictures but, frankly, they dont do it justice. Fortunately, the Bridge and trail were not heavily trafficked so we were able to have our masks off most of the time. We only put them on when we talked to the people working the concession booth and when we got to the waterfall, which was a small cul-de-sac with a group of people. On the other hand, we took a tour of the nearby caverns and that didnt go quite as well. When we arrived at the caverns, a sign said that tours would be half capacity due to Covid concerns and everyone had to wear masks. Only one of those things turned out to be true. If you have not had the opportunity to go on a cavern tour, put it on your bucket list. Especially if you have kids. Theyre unlike anything youve ever seen and well worth the effort. Usually. The caverns at Natural Bridge were a bit...underwhelming. They werent boring per se, they just werent as good as the other caverns I had been to. To be fair, the Luray and Skyline Caverns are magnificent so what are you going to do? If youre considering touring all the caverns in Virginia, Natural Bridge is one of the ones you start with and work your way up to Luray, which is the top of the line. But the caverns being kind of eh wasnt the problem. They were kind of small. And that turned into an issue very quickly. When the group started down the path into the caverns, we had no way of knowing what a full size or half size group looked like.
The Luray Caverns are quite large and a group our size (about 20 of us) would have enough room to spread out. That was not the case in Natural Caverns. There, even in the larger areas, we were mostly forced to be within a foot or so of each other. In the smaller rooms, we were shoulder to shoulder. It was a fucking nightmare. I havent been in a crowd of people in an enclosed space since before the pandemic started and thank god no Trump humping asshole decided to make a scene about his freedumbs and wearing a mask. Still, even with masks, being that close to so many people indoors was horrifying. There was absolutely no way the group was half sized because a group twice the size could not possibly have fit. Basically, the people who run the caverns chose profit over safety. Lovely. Things didnt get any better when we got to the hotel. Despite a sign on the door asking all guests to wear masks, maybe one or two were. There was a wedding or some such event taking place and none of the 20-somethings in their dresses and suits were wearing a mask while they gathered close together. But that wasnt the part that really made us want to run screaming from the Natural Bridge Historic Hotel & Conference Center. No, that was the fact that literally not one single member of the staff was wearing one, either. Welcome to Trump Humper country.
This had to be a combination of two things. One, wearing a mask opens you up to abuse by guests. Debbie went down to the dining room in the morning to pick up our breakfast because we surely were not going to eat down there. We assumed it would be packed with people, none of whom would be social distancing, and we were right. But while she was waiting for our take out, one of the Trump Humpers couldnt stop himself from demanding to know why she was wearing a mask. He did this because, at the very core of their being Trumpers are bullies and he saw a woman standing by herself. Imagine what they would do to a hotel worker who, fearing for their job, would be forced to smile (behind a mask) and remain polite? The second thing is that, this far into Trump Humper country, people simply dont believe in wearing masks because something something George Soros, Bill Gates, and Qanon. Between Fox News, OANN, and Sinclair spewing anti-science propaganda to support Trumps talking points, social media allowing crap like Plandemic to spread to millions, and Republican governors openly fighting against masks, taking basic precautions has become political. As in, if you do it, you must hate Trump, manliness, and Murika. What are you, some kind of Commie sissy boy? One wonders if any of the hotel workers have insurance. Virginia is not currently a hot spot but keep having weddings without masks or a care in the world and it wont matter how rural or loyal to Trump that part of the state is, sooner or later, the Red Death comes like a thief in the night. There were a lot of other issues with the hotel (nice view from the balcony but, seriously, stay somewhere else) but thats not relevant to this article. What is relevant is just how much being in Trump country impacted our trip.
It Really Shouldnt Have Made A Difference. But It Did
Ive been to deep red parts of the country before and it didnt matter. Even after Trump was elected, Ive been out to the Skyline Caverns in Shenandoah Valley and down to Williamsburg. Ive been out in the middle of absolutely nowhere to visit my aunt in North Carolina. And when I say nowhere, I mean it. A mile from her house, my GPS stopped working. Not because I didnt have a signal, but because the roads werent on the map. But over the last four years, its been harder and harder to ignore the growing violence and insanity of white Republican voters. A couple of them almost attacked my son here in deep blue Alexandria. I was not even slightly surprised that one verbally accosted my wife in deep red Rockbridge County. If I had had a Biden 2020 bumper sticker on my car, a flat tire in the morning would not have been much of a shock. As much as I tried to relax and enjoy spending time with my family, it was impossible to forget that I was, almost literally, in enemy territory; surrounded by people who actively wish me and mine harm. Did I expect them to drag us away in the middle of the night? No. But these are the same people cheering on Trumps secret police illegally snatching people off the street in Portland. Would they personally put us on the cattle cars in a few years? Doubtful. But they would absolutely applaud as the trains passed through their town on the way to the gas chambers. Not every German wore a swastika, carried a gun, or personally murdered a Jew. But millions of them were more than happy to support the government carrying out atrocities in their name. Those were the people around us and it doesnt matter how hard you want to believe otherwise. The signs in their yards tell you how eager they are to vote for the man who promises to bring white nationalist fascism to America. I think maybe Ill steer clear of Trump country until Trump is a fading memory and the blood rage has burned itself out. Theres plenty of other parts of the country to visit where I wont have to worry about an angry white Republican voter targeting my family because OANN told him were to blame for his shitty, hate-filled life.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)people like that. Hopefully we will get lucky and they will all catch it and get "raptured", so that we don't have to put up with them any more.
jaysunb
(11,856 posts)Celerity
(43,734 posts)Solomon
(12,321 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I've visited most of those places many times, including recent years. I go to Natural Bridge every time I'm attending a game at Virginia Tech. I take lengthy driving trips every summer and fall, albeit not this year.
Once you undertake those drives, and meet locals, and listen to the radio, you realize there is no such thing as 30% approval. There is no such thing as 35% approval. There is probably no such thing as 538 dropping to 38 or 39% approval. Every time I read posts here assigning matter of fact drops of 5 or 7 or 10 percent it is blatant they have no clue regarding the mathematical and applicable burden of that, regardless of their educational background or apparent intelligence.
mwooldri
(10,303 posts)I give the one fingered salute to all of them. That road? A lot of "salutes".
underpants
(183,007 posts)👀 Im using this to mark this piece for a later read.
Yeah 29 is a cut through in time almost. You go from positively liberal Charlottesville to um Lynchburg. We used to meet one set of the grandparents at an Italian restaurant in Livingston - it was half way between Richmond and Roanoke - for them to take our girl for a week or so in the summer. Very red.
rainin
(3,011 posts)take back ownership of media. Corporate consolidation of media has allowed for outlets like OAN to create an alternate universe that believes we're the enemy. There can't be unity or even dialogue until we're starting with the same set of facts. Make all news publicly owned and regulate the hell out of social media companies
mrsadm
(1,198 posts)This great nation of ours is listening to propaganda 24/7
appalachiablue
(41,199 posts)bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)That ggrandfather fought in the 11th IA Infantry for the Union.
Some relatives who stayed in VA were in Confederate army
onetexan
(13,079 posts)as many rural parts of TX are still that way. Hubby & i ventured on a road trip to Luckenbach in May to enjoy the beautiful wildflowers along the road, and it was painful to see the large trump signs along the rural highway. @end of August we'll be heading to AR to visit his folks at their ranch @the foot of the Ozarks. You'd wonder why 2 retired liberal doctors would choose to make their home deep in the heart of red country where, per my father-in-law, people have a hard time understanding words with more than 3 syllables. Everytime i'm in AR i feel like i'm in an entirely different country. This is why we live in the suburbs of a major TX city, and a notoriously liberal one at that.
appleannie1
(5,077 posts)Not near the Natural Bridge but closer to Virginia Beach. I can assure you, Virginia is already becoming a hot spot. Almost 50 staff members at the hospital she works in are COVID positive. They started out with a COVID unit. It quickly became a COVID floor until they ran out of beds on that floor. Six days ago they erected a large tent in the parking lot because there was no more room in the ER for patients. Their bars are still open. Beaches and hotels are still full. And it is maskless business as usual for summer.
msongs
(67,496 posts)appleannie1
(5,077 posts)My daughter is too busy to ever watch the news or read anything so I doubt she knows either. She did not even know about Portland until I told her on the phone. As you can imagine, she is working a lot more than 40 hours. I do know she is outraged that hardly no one is wearing a mask or distancing. When she does call, it is to vent mostly on that subject.
I live in rural PA. People around here think I am a lunatic because I do wear one and it is now mandated in my state. My neighbors have stopped dropping in, not because it is not safe to do so but because I hand them a mask and insist the visit is outside. The latest thing going around in this area is "the only reason there are so many positive tests is because they are putting the virus on the swabs". I don't know who the mysterious "THEY" are. And another one is "This is all blown out of proportion. I know someone that knows someone in the CIA. They are investigating to see who started the lie about the virus". I never realizes so many people know someone that knows someone high up in the CIA. Bottom line is mandates don't mean anything to people with that mindset. The county next to mine sued Gov. Wolf over having to shut their bars down. And I doubt very much he will be re-elected simply because he is trying to save lives.
Sugarcoated
(7,736 posts)Montgomery County, it looks to me like a majority of people in the counties all around Philadelphia think Wolf's doing a great job. I think he'll get re-elected. His numbers will be up in the densely populated parts of Pennsylvania, that's what it takes to win here as you probably know.
durablend
(7,467 posts)Can't be re-relected (next governor election isn't till 2022)
Sugarcoated
(7,736 posts)That's right. I wonder who's on the Dem docket. Possibly Fetterman? I don't know what to make of him.
phylny
(8,393 posts)MFM008
(19,834 posts)In Alexandria VA when my dad was working at the pentagon in 1958.
Glad to hear its blue anyway...
a la izquierda
(11,802 posts)Granted, I live in a mildly progressive area and Ill preface this by saying I love my friends and I have a good department for work.
But I have abhorred every minute living in this god forsaken hellhole of a state, one that votes against its interests in every election. One that prides ignorance, backwardness, and is intellectually dead. It prides itself on voting for the worst common denominator, and for believing that the billionaires will save them.
I cannot wait to get out.
spinbaby
(15,092 posts)Im in rural western PA. Idiots here all thinking covid is a conspiracy and theyre having parties and picnics, going to bars, and refusing to wear face masks. The latest is that theres some kind of conspiracy to force them into a cashless society, so theyre cooking up schemes to get Walmart because Walmart is asking customers not to use cash.
Efilroft Sul
(3,586 posts)And where I go biking in the morning is populated by Kool-Aid drinkers. I haven't heard them talking about the cashless society conspiracy, but they think the protests are allowed to go on because "white people don't speak up enough" against BLM.
hvn_nbr_2
(6,492 posts)"poopering the lawns."
AwakeAtLast
(14,134 posts)Trumpers are trying to outdo each other on signs and flags. It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. I have experienced everything you describe. Just today I went with my husband to a local diner for breakfast. Just like you said, no masks on servers. We won't return.
I am glad you had a chance to enjoy something, though!
pepperbear
(5,648 posts)It's the surrounding counties of York and James City County that are Red.
FakeNoose
(32,884 posts)You see somebody's house with the stupid "Trump" signs out front, but nobody notices all the other houses that have no signs anywhere. That's typical, because the annoying ChumpHumpers are loud & noisy. But there aren't that many of them. This year there are way fewer than before.
Think of it this way: In 2016 Chump got a lot of last-minute "eeny-meeny-miney-moe" voters that he didn't really deserve. Those people for the most part, regret giving their vote to Chump last time and they won't do it again. Chump has no new supporters since 2016. But there are a lot of former Chump voters who won't be giving him their vote this time. The ones who do support Chump (in spite of it all) cannot be reasoned with, so let them go.
For every loud, crazy ChumpHumper out there, at least 10 people are keeping quiet but they know they won't vote for him. That's how we're going to win this! Maybe they won't join our party, but they will help us by not giving their vote to Chump.
bullwinkle428
(20,631 posts)this is pretty much what you'll find anywhere.
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