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tenderfoot

(8,426 posts)
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 01:34 PM Jul 2020

Police: Richmond riots instigated by white supremacists disguised as Black Lives Matter

RICHMOND, Va. – Riots in downtown Richmond over the weekend were instigated by white supremacists under the guise of Black Lives Matter, according to law enforcement officials.

Protesters tore down police tape and pushed forward toward Richmond police headquarters, where they set a city dump truck on fire.

Police declared the event an “unlawful assembly” and ordered people to leave, later deploying tear gas.

Six people were arrested. The mayor of Richmond thanked the Black Lives Matter protesters he said tried to stop the white supremacists from spearheading the violence.

“Their mission is simple, not the Richmond we know,” said Mayor Levar Stoney.



https://www.wsls.com/news/virginia/2020/07/27/police-richmond-riots-instigated-by-white-supremacists-disguised-as-black-lives-matter/

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Police: Richmond riots instigated by white supremacists disguised as Black Lives Matter (Original Post) tenderfoot Jul 2020 OP
deleted Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 #1
No, it won't. Just watch. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #3
God, the prophets of doom here nt sweetloukillbot Jul 2020 #4
Tiresome, isn't it? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #5
Just so tired of this, it is constant on here obamanut2012 Jul 2020 #8
All this "It won't matter" "He'll cancel the election" bullshit does is suppress our side sweetloukillbot Jul 2020 #9
Exactly. Who is really behind this crap? lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #34
Every 4 years. fescuerescue Jul 2020 #60
isn't it in the constitution that it is supposed to be the tuesday after the first monday yellowdogintexas Jul 2020 #21
Not the constitution, it is set... reACTIONary Jul 2020 #51
Interesting. Lasher Jul 2020 #52
I know! And i keep hearing "he's ignored all these OTHER laws"........ oldsoftie Jul 2020 #50
+1 2naSalit Jul 2020 #58
+1000 Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #31
But I think he will try. wnylib Jul 2020 #18
So what? He's going. Most likely with whimpering and no bang. marble falls Jul 2020 #59
Sure he is. I am currently listening wnylib Jul 2020 #64
And it's up to us to MAKE DAMN SURE it won't. calimary Jul 2020 #28
When some members post and I see their name on/in a thread or post ms liberty Jul 2020 #48
jfc just stop with this obamanut2012 Jul 2020 #7
I have read here for years about the end of America. panader0 Jul 2020 #12
I get that it pisses people off here. Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 #13
I am sure that the war planners have a solution for it. A lot of thinking went into the continuity LiberalArkie Jul 2020 #15
12th amendment is what is up here...I was wrong about postponing from what I have Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 #17
I would presume (IMHO) that Biden will probably get his 270 EV because blue states won't stop the SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #26
Yup!! Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #32
I guess that remains to be seen, but wouldnt it be prudent to stop the protests until it is over? Eliot Rosewater Jul 2020 #35
In a way, I kind of agree w/ you, being that it's possible that the protests could be magnified... SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author marie999 Jul 2020 #36
The scenario where some red states don't certify won't work. drray23 Jul 2020 #55
The House picks the president by STATE DELGATION BidenMyTime Jul 2020 #56
no. that would be if there is a tie. drray23 Jul 2020 #65
Postponed by whom? dware Jul 2020 #11
No, it won't obamanut2012 Jul 2020 #14
This is misinformation. Please delete it. PTWB Jul 2020 #23
+1 2naSalit Jul 2020 #57
Kick this one. Kingofalldems Jul 2020 #2
I'm SHOCKED!!! Outside agitators causing chaos? LakeArenal Jul 2020 #6
Odds that Trump sends in federal agents to "quell" the violence in Richmond VA? gratuitous Jul 2020 #10
The only organized 'Antifa' seems to be Trump supporters showing up with their spray paint, Molotov keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2020 #54
What are the chances that it is also wnylib Jul 2020 #19
Portland Restauranteur Told Me McKim Jul 2020 #20
Very suspicious indeed. This is why wnylib Jul 2020 #24
Just wait for him to try and start that Sh-- in Philadelphia Oppaloopa Jul 2020 #43
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2020 #41
Sounds like this guy from Minneapolis csziggy Jul 2020 #46
trump and Stormfront llashram Jul 2020 #22
Of course everyone is concerned, but could we all just stop repeating this...thank you Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #33
Same in WI and Portland Nululu Jul 2020 #25
i hope Richmond police locked these thugs up onetexan Jul 2020 #27
Don't they have jobs to create or something? ffr Jul 2020 #29
I'm ALL FOR the BLM protests BUT bluestarone Jul 2020 #30
Any arrests? Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #37
From the article... tenderfoot Jul 2020 #38
thank you. missed it Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #44
like your Carlin quote too! Evolve Dammit Jul 2020 #45
Remember back in April of 2009... Grins Jul 2020 #39
Most likely Portland and others uponit7771 Jul 2020 #40
Read the comments at the link kwijybo Jul 2020 #42
The orange anus must be fancying himself as another Hannibal Smith Brother Buzz Jul 2020 #47
Fuck this shit Blue Owl Jul 2020 #49
The most important thing is to motivate the voters to vote! mdbl Jul 2020 #61
agents provocatuer. call them what they are . AllaN01Bear Jul 2020 #62
Kick dalton99a Jul 2020 #63

sweetloukillbot

(11,009 posts)
9. All this "It won't matter" "He'll cancel the election" bullshit does is suppress our side
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 01:54 PM
Jul 2020

Makes me wonder what the source is...

The fact is we're leading, by a lot. I'm not going to say it's in the bag, but we are in a good position, much better than we were in 2016. And I'm not sure what the doomsaying had to do with a post about white supremacists starting a riot.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
34. Exactly. Who is really behind this crap?
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:36 PM
Jul 2020

The OP itself (the Richmond story) shows that our enemies are running false-flag operations.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
60. Every 4 years.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 10:15 AM
Jul 2020

One party freaks out that the opposition President won't leave if he loses.

Been hearing that for decades. Every 4 years.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
51. Not the constitution, it is set...
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 08:13 PM
Jul 2020

It is statutorily set as "the Tuesday next after the first Monday in the month of November" equalling "the first Tuesday after November 1"

By 1792, federal law permitted each state to choose Presidential electors any time within a 34-day period before the first Wednesday in December.

Development of the Morse electric telegraph, funded by Congress in 1843 and successfully tested in 1844, was a technological change that clearly augured an imminent future of instant communication nationwide. To prevent information from one state from influencing Presidential electoral outcomes in another, Congress responded in 1845 by mandating a uniform national date for choosing Presidential electors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Election_Day_(United_States)

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
50. I know! And i keep hearing "he's ignored all these OTHER laws"........
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 08:02 PM
Jul 2020

Blah blah
The election WILL go on, and If Biden wins, Trump WILL leave 1/21
Period

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
64. Sure he is. I am currently listening
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 11:36 AM
Jul 2020

to an NPR program. They are discussing possible scenarios with members of the Transition Integrity Project, which is a group of people who have held high level positions in government and/or militsry. One of the guest speakers is a colonel. The discussion is about how the nation would handle it if Trump refuses to go. They have considered various scenarios and how agencies and individuals in government would deal with that possibility, which they take as a very real and serious one.

It seems that this group, who are more experienced and knowledgeable than most people, including me, are not so casual or confident about the outcome of the election and how it will be handled. They anticipate the possibility of voter disruption, intimidation of poll workers, interference with mail in ballots, a rigged outcome or a refusal of Trump to acknowledge losing. They are saying it is naive to think that the election and possible need for removal of Trump would proceed smoothly without a hitch.

ms liberty

(8,573 posts)
48. When some members post and I see their name on/in a thread or post
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 06:10 PM
Jul 2020

Before I even read what they've said, inside my head, I burst into song...




Gloom, despair and agony on me!
Deep dark depression, excessive misery!
If it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all!
Gloom, despair and agony on me!




panader0

(25,816 posts)
12. I have read here for years about the end of America.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:03 PM
Jul 2020

Very tiresome. In another thread many people announced they are leaving the US because
of current events instead of trying to make things better. Fair weather friends.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
13. I get that it pisses people off here.
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jul 2020
The Constitution’s text requires that a group of electors, commonly called the Electoral College, chooses the next president. If a majority of electors fails to agree on a winner, Congress picks the winner in continent elections held within Congress under the terms of the 12th Amendment.


https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/does-the-constitution-allow-for-a-delayed-presidential-election



According to this source, the election cant be postponed but THIS can happen, something Thom Harmann warned about...If it goes to the 12th then EACH STATE has ONE VOTE, guess what that means!

So I WAS WRONG about postponing, I had read an article by Frum about how he could do that, but lets assume he cant, but THIS can happen and while traitor himself has no clue about any of this stuff, barr (traitor #2) will know about this stuff.

The reason I say these things is the same reason I YELLED AT PEOPLE in 2016 anywhere I could NOT to BASH Hillary so this wouldnt happen, but that didnt work either.


AS I have been saying everywhere including social media, EVERYBODY go home and STAY there until Nov 3, do NOT give the traitors a reason for states to not be able to certify their election results so the 12th doesnt come into play. If we have any election or constitutional experts here they will confirm the nightmare this could be if enough states allege they cant certify their results due to protests or civil unrest.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
15. I am sure that the war planners have a solution for it. A lot of thinking went into the continuity
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:26 PM
Jul 2020

of government planning. I wonder how they proposed to have a new president elected after a major attack.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
17. 12th amendment is what is up here...I was wrong about postponing from what I have
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:28 PM
Jul 2020

since learned.

The election happens, red states CLAIM that due to the virus or civil unrest they cant certify their results, if enough of them do this (and here is where an expert needs to explain it) then the 12th can kick in, if it does, party over, they steal it again.

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
26. I would presume (IMHO) that Biden will probably get his 270 EV because blue states won't stop the
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:13 PM
Jul 2020

election from happening in Nov. 2020 and thus, Biden will win anyway, regardless if some red states don't certify their results.

SWBTATTReg

(22,114 posts)
53. In a way, I kind of agree w/ you, being that it's possible that the protests could be magnified...
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 08:57 PM
Jul 2020

way beyond reality (look at how they pushed off the protesters away from the Wash. DC church so rump could hold up his bible (of course upside down) to make his stupid 'law and order' statement. I am worried that this administration will use / magnify any 'protests' or manufacture one for their illegal purposes so they can come up w/ some excuse to do something, such as impose martial law or worse (if there is anything worse than this). If I were smart, I would be lining up lawyers by the dozens, people in the know, bail money (if bail is even available) to get people out of jail, etc., for 'minor' offenses, etc.



I am very nervous w/ this administration and the willingness to engage in 'funny business' to do what they in truth want to do, but want to appear 'legitimate' in doing so. However, I do think that embedded journalists, the thousands of cell phone videos that are constantly recording stuff 24x7, etc. is going to make doing such things harder by this administration.

Still, I don't trust this administration nor trump one bit. Not one solitary bit. I don't think anyone does anymore.

Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #13)

drray23

(7,627 posts)
55. The scenario where some red states don't certify won't work.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 12:49 AM
Jul 2020
The electoral votes received by Congress are counted in a joint session at 1 p.m. on January 6. If a presidential or vice presidential candidate does not receive a majority of the electoral votes, the House selects the next president and the Senate selects the next vice president.


Amongst those states that would return the electoral votes, the candidate who has the majority wins. That would obviously be Biden since the red states not returning their EV would penalize Trump.

BidenMyTime

(6 posts)
56. The House picks the president by STATE DELGATION
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 04:31 AM
Jul 2020

There are more red states than blue states, so even though the Dems control the House, Trump would certainly be re-elected.

Scary but let's hope it doesn't come to that.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
65. no. that would be if there is a tie.
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 01:03 PM
Jul 2020

What I quoted is what happens. They first meet and take note of the certified EV that were received by the deadline. If there is a winner than that its. If there is a tie then they would do what you say and that would be the next step.

dware

(12,369 posts)
11. Postponed by whom?
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 01:54 PM
Jul 2020

Trump can't postpone them, relax, the elections will happen in Nov. and come Jan., Trump will be gone.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. Odds that Trump sends in federal agents to "quell" the violence in Richmond VA?
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 01:54 PM
Jul 2020

Somewhere south of zero, methinks.

keithbvadu2

(36,778 posts)
16. The only organized 'Antifa' seems to be Trump supporters showing up with their spray paint, Molotov
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:27 PM
Jul 2020

The only organized 'Antifa' seems to be Trump supporters showing up with their spray paint, Molotov cocktails, or vandalism tools, pretending to be protesters.

https://imgur.com/gallery/E1Ik0Ra

https://imgur.com/gallery/6a8JxK7

Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #16)

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
19. What are the chances that it is also
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:39 PM
Jul 2020

white supremacist agitaters who are behind the fires being started at the Portland protests?

McKim

(2,412 posts)
20. Portland Restauranteur Told Me
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:43 PM
Jul 2020

A Portland restaurateur told me that early on in the demonstrations, white men appeared at the Persian restaurant downtown and smashed the windows and left quickly.......very suspicious.

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
24. Very suspicious indeed. This is why
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:59 PM
Jul 2020

Trump is making a show of force in American cities. It gives his thugs an opportunity to instigate violence that Trump can blame on protesters, claiming that they sre a threat to the nation that he needs to save us from. Nixon tried the same thing with anti war protesters (minus the armed troops) by putting agents at the protests to instigate violence.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
46. Sounds like this guy from Minneapolis
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 05:25 PM
Jul 2020


I don't think they ever found him - or if they did, it was not announced.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
22. trump and Stormfront
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 02:52 PM
Jul 2020

are sending thugs everywhere to instigate unrest, chaos amd violence so he can, closer to the election, declare martial law and elections rigged

Nululu

(840 posts)
25. Same in WI and Portland
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:07 PM
Jul 2020

Demonstrators have security to stop violent idiots. They aren't all White Supremecists but a sizeable percentage are.

bluestarone

(16,916 posts)
30. I'm ALL FOR the BLM protests BUT
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:27 PM
Jul 2020

Need to be smart about it! We cannot let the WHITE SUPREMACISTS do things that we will get BLAMED for! Protest during the day but NOT at night! That's my thoughts.

Grins

(7,217 posts)
39. Remember back in April of 2009...
Mon Jul 27, 2020, 03:57 PM
Jul 2020

Remember back in April of 2009, when Republicans went all "Hulk-Smash" on a Dept. of Homeland Security report that warned that:

“...rightwing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about several emergent issues.”

One of those "issues" being "That man!" in a very White House.

That predicted the:

“...emergence of terrorist groups or lone wolf extremists capable of carrying out violent attacks...the most dangerous domestic terrorism threat in the United States.”

The Reich-wing's Noise and Rage Machine went into overdrive with John Boehner wondering why the term ‘terrorist’ was used to describe American citizens, and demanded the Secretary of Homeland Security apologize. Remember the Reich-wing's rage screaming the report was:

"...a sweeping indictment of conservatives... that there was no evidence that an unquantified resurgence in rightwing extremist recruitment and radicalizations activity" was occurring - at all.

Oops!!

This is why we can't have nice things.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
61. The most important thing is to motivate the voters to vote!
Tue Jul 28, 2020, 10:18 AM
Jul 2020

Don't listen to BS.
Don't listen to polls.
Don't listen to Putin (aka right-wing misinformation sources - all of them)

Just turn out the vote!!!!!!

Remind anyone/everyone that nothing good is decided by not voting.

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