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Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:48 PM

Do you think Trump will ever get prosecuted, convicted, and do jail time after he leaves office?

I can think of a whole host of crimes, federal and state, which he probably committed and for which he deserves punishment. Do you think that America has the stomach to prosecute a former POTUS? Personally, I think that he needs to be made an example of no one is above the law, and corrupt venal politicians will not be tolerated.

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Reply Do you think Trump will ever get prosecuted, convicted, and do jail time after he leaves office? (Original post)
vlyons Jul 25 OP
EmeraldCoaster Jul 25 #1
RKP5637 Jul 25 #2
Louis1895 Jul 25 #3
onethatcares Jul 25 #17
not_the_one Jul 25 #30
Celerity Jul 25 #35
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hadEnuf Jul 25 #5
a kennedy Jul 25 #23
JHB Jul 25 #34
a kennedy Jul 25 #38
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edhopper Jul 25 #10
SheltieLover Jul 25 #20
Frustratedlady Jul 25 #11
fescuerescue Jul 26 #54
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Sewa Jul 25 #12
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LeftInTX Jul 25 #14
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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:53 PM

1. Yes

Without a doubt in my mind.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:54 PM

2. I think he should be, but he slithers around and has lots of company. Some will

be glad the POS is out of office and just might want to move on. Hard to tell. The guy is a criminal, a gangster and a con artist ... and that's the short list!

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:54 PM

3. No

Unfortunately, I believe our system is so broken that he will get away with everything.

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Response to Louis1895 (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:06 PM

17. I join in your opinion

and have a Bizzarro cartoon in plastic on my desk that says, "Welcome to AMERICA. Keeping the wealthy out of prison for over 200 years".

I keep it there to remind myself.

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Response to Louis1895 (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:53 PM

30. If you want to see a system break and completely disintegrate, even more than it has,

let him get away, scot free...

The turd may destroy the republican party, but waiving accountability by the democrats will be ITS destruction.

If the turd and his family are not held accountable we will hear from him/them EVERY DAY reminding us of the democrats' failure. Their base will STILL be behind them, and THEY will take back over in 2024, because democrats will stay home by the millions. We will see Ivanka or Don Jr in the white house in 2025.

If the democrats can't step up to the plate and do what needs to be done, it is time for a NEW party. And it could have millions of members OVERNIGHT. They are waiting in the wings right now...



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Response to Louis1895 (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:02 PM

35. +100000000

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:54 PM

4. He might be prosecuted

but he will never do jail time

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:54 PM

5. No, he will be pardoned. He has no other way out other than remaining in power

And let's hope the latter doesn't happen.

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Response to hadEnuf (Reply #5)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:18 PM

23. Pardoned?? By who, or am I missing something.....

Joe Biden wouldn’t pardon him would he?? Oh my.....

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #23)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:00 PM

34. Pence, after a resignation (a la Ford and Nixon)

Although, I do wonder whether Pence might reneg on a deal like that, as an overture to the post-Trump Republican party.

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Response to JHB (Reply #34)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:12 PM

38. Right, and thanks......

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #23)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:31 PM

42. Apparently he thinks he can pardon himself.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2018/12/can-trump-pardon-himself/578074/

On June 4, President Donald Trump tweeted, “As has been stated by numerous legal scholars, I have the absolute right to PARDON myself, but why would I do that when I have done nothing wrong?”

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:55 PM

6. Mr. Lake said from 2016 that he will never go to jail.

Everyone around him especially people (?) like Barr will be going down. Some will go to easy prison and serve 1/4 of their time.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:55 PM

7. One can only hope.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 05:59 PM

8. No

If laws don’t apply to him in office, they won’t apply to him outside it either. He’s “too big to jail.”

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:01 PM

9. That's not going to happen

Let's just get him out of office.

Jail time is same category as Trump resigning or impeached by the senate or not being renominated, etc.

If Trump loses we'll quickly learn that he has no intention of shutting up, and his devotees are fully determined to keep going with him.

Trump as the 2024 GOP nominee is markedly more likely than Trump spending 5 minutes in jail

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:02 PM

10. I don't know

But I do not want to hear Biden say it is time to move on.

It's time to make the fuckers pay!

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Response to edhopper (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:13 PM

20. This!👆

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:02 PM

11. New York might be able to get him. He's screwed enough contractors and legal eagles in NY,

that they might just give it a try. He may never go to prison, but he should definitely go on record (along with his kids) for all the money they've stolen, taxes they've avoided--including New York and insurance fraud, as well as charity fraud.

I'd put my money on New York before I would on Congress or the feds.

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Response to Frustratedlady (Reply #11)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:34 AM

54. If they couldn't nail him before 2016

I'm not sure that NY contractors and lawyers will be able to nail him after 2020.

He's only grown exponentially more powerful as President of the United States, than he was as a real estate developer.

And that's before we even get into things like statue of limitations.

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Response to fescuerescue (Reply #54)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 07:08 AM

56. I didn't state that very well. What I was referring to was pissing off enough people in NY, that

they would be more determined to get him. Not the contractors, but the courts that were hounded by his lawyers. After all the lawsuits and bankruptcies, his reputation/history has to be so rank, they would like nothing better than to at least win a few cases.

When he moved his residency to Florida, my first thought was that he was reading the message on the wall. People are sick of him and New York ranks toward the top of that list. JMVHO. Maybe I'm grabbing at straws.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:03 PM

12. Would it be possible to get an impartial jury impaneled?

Trump’s lawyers could claim that because of public visibility that he couldn’t get a fair trial.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:04 PM

13. Yes

The state of New York will ,ocktrump up for tax fraud

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:05 PM

14. No

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:05 PM

15. no

at the end of the day he is still a rich asshole

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:06 PM

16. I think he'll be prosecuted, but wiggle out

of any legal or financial accountability.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:08 PM

18. No. The dirty bastard has skated his whole life.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:12 PM

19. There will never be 12 people to convict him.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:15 PM

21. I hoped he gets worse

Much worse.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:16 PM

22. Nope.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:21 PM

24. There will certainly be attempts by multiple agencies, groups

...and people that have been harmed to prosecute him and the only way to stop all of them is a presidential pardon. Keeping him in the country to face the charges may be a problem, but there too the European countries will likely be happy to extradite him if he tries to escape there.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:23 PM

25. He absolutely must be.

If "The Rule Of Law" actually means anything in the United States, we can not allow this man to escape justice. He has broken so many laws, and done so much wrong that it just can not be one of those "Move On" type things.

And yes, I remember the genesis of "Move On", but this is completely different.

The man is a fucking crook, full stop. He needs to be made an example of. It just can not be allowed that someone can get elected to the presidency and conduct themselves the way he has.

Charge them all.

Him and his entire fucking crime ridden, grifter-ass family.

The only ones I can see not getting indicted are Barron, Tyffany, Marla and Ivana.

Fuck the rest of that family.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:33 PM

26. I just want him out.

Everything else is secondary.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:36 PM

27. No, he'll still be a menace to society

If somehow the courts convict him, he'll just do what this guy did

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:40 PM

28. I doubt it, at least the jail part

He might get tangled up with some big civil suits, maybe even some tax related criminal charges... but if those happen I expect lawyers will force delays until it won't matter. Of course, some zealous prosecutors could try and nail the kids.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:47 PM

29. Yes

I believe Biden has said he won’t let Twitler slide.

There are probably copious ways he has broken the law.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:53 PM

31. There have been so many who deserved it

and our next president always let it go for the good of the country. One would think that by this time they would know it is NOT good for the country. It is also not good for our society, not in any way.

I think the people will in large part have the guts to demand it but I do not see Biden or Pelosi supporting it, they are just like that. **I have not heard anything about what they would think about it so this is just what I think, means nothing really.**

I support sending this man through the ringer for the rest of his life. He should be afraid or restrained or both for the rest of his life. He should never have a perk or a bank account that does more than rent him a small apartment and pay for him to cook his own meals if he is not in prison where he belongs.

Will we do it? I certainly hope so or this country is doomed this time. I have grave doubts we will see it happen but I am wrong so often and this is one time I hope with all my heart I will look back on this post with a red face.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:56 PM

32. I doubt it.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 06:59 PM

33. I suspect this "Teflon Don" thing is temporary.

A lot of it is his tendency to drag things out and of course never admit to being wrong about anything. However, for all that he's wronged a great many people before now, the consequences have never been so dire. And it's difficult to maintain a myth under those circumstances.

So while he is unlikely to change his behavior once he's out of office, circumstances are likely to catch up with him. I suspect it'll be a pretty boring and banal matter that gets him in the end, too. His political and cultural demise will be dull rather than suspenseful.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:04 PM

36. No

My hope is his business is gone, Ivanka won't speak to him, Melania is long gone, and he is living in a one bedroom apartment in New Jersey, with Eric and Don Jr. Wife beater t-shirts and no one ever cleaning the bathroom or kitchen feature in my fantasy. Nor will anyone answer his cell phone calls.

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Response to iamateacher (Reply #36)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 09:51 PM

47. I do not have high hopes for him getting his just deserts legally, although there is a slim

possibility that he could be prosecuted for numerous state crimes. However, like you, I am hoping that this whole nightmare ends with he and his family being financially and socially ruined, drowning in debt that they can't pay back, and with the Russian Mob constantly breathing down their necks.

I expect to see him completely mentally breaking down in a torrent of paranoia, widespread persecution, never-ending lawsuits and public humiliation. His life can only go downhill and he has nobody to blame but himself.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:10 PM

37. Not on federal charges.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:16 PM

39. No. It would be too embarrassing for the USA to put him in jail

I'm not saying that he doesn't deserve it.

The optics for the US would be terrible and would make us look bad on the world stage. Only 3rd world despots get imprisoned, not the president of the greatest country in the world, right? Since people in power think that the US is the greatest, they wouldn't do anything that would lower us to that 3rd world level. We're too proud to admit that we made such a huge mistake.

Note- I was being a bit sarcastic here, but I still believe that our country's leaders wouldn't do anything that would be embarrassing for the US.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:17 PM

40. No, I think his defense will be he is physically and or mentally unable to stand trial

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:27 PM

41. No. I'm sorry to say I think he will be more vocal than he is now

When he is out of office.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:32 PM

43. I'm advocating for the Rosenberg remedy.

And I am generally opposed to the death penalty but would make an exception here.

The Trumps must be rendered penniless, powerless, restricted from doing business and public life.

OR....he will stoke a cult rebellion for vengeance and glory in it.

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Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #43)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:37 AM

55. When this country starts executing Presidents

It won't stop with the just the ones we dislike.

Nor would the country stop at that level. It would works it's way down all politicians.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 07:37 PM

44. Did W?

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 09:39 PM

45. No. A single juror can block conviction.

Even a Biden voter might worry about setting a precedent of jailing the President, afraid future Trumps might jail someone like Hillary.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 09:42 PM

46. No

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 09:59 PM

48. Hell.No. n/t

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 10:49 PM

49. yes, I believe NY will indict him and prosecute him

Let's have a little faith.

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Response to BernieBabies (Reply #49)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:01 AM

52. He'll probably end up with probation, if he is guilty

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 10:52 PM

50. Sadly, no.

At the very least, even if he is charged and put on trial, he will have the monetary ability to stall, postpone, and avoid consequences until he dies of natural causes.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2020, 11:50 PM

51. No, because he will claim election fraud

which won't change the results, but he will say he's going to run again to get back what was "stolen" from him.

From then on he will claim every legal snag will be corrupt dems fearing his comeback. My guess is Trump will be the rethug nominee in 2024, because who in that party is going to stop him?

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 12:29 AM

53. He will be treated the same as Nixon and Bush

Retire in luxury. Guarded by the Federal government.

Then after about a decade of new bad Republicans, people will start comparing him favorably to whoever the new bad guy is.

The reality is that VERY few bad President/Kings/Dictators ever pay more than a token price and even years, decades or centuries later still retain supporters.

It's not fair but it's reality.




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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 07:11 AM

57. Maybe not but what i'm hoping for is for him to be publicly humliated. For people to laugh at him

until the day he dies.

I hope Parscale, Guilfoyle and all the other grifters have stolen all the money that he got illegally also .

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 07:18 AM

58. Seeing how much people love W and his war criminals now

I would say no.

In a few years Ellen will be snuggling him at a football game and everyone will swoon.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 10:07 AM

59. No

That is tRUMP's bargaining chip to even leave office, so he and his spawn will be promised that they won't get prosecuted.

Meanwhile, Republicans will rebuild and immediately blame the damage tRump did on Biden and the Democratic House & Senate, if the election is a clean sweep. The wealthy elite will immediately pump a lot of cash into the Republican Party for the American wash and repeat insanity. The recovery will be long and hard, because there will be no wealthy elite crack down to go back to their tax rates before the 'trickle down' gimmick started... Only minimal increases will likely happen and nothing will be reconciled with regards to previous cuts under tRump & Republican, Inc.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 10:14 AM

60. No, we'll be told the same bullshit we're told every other time. You know,

about moving on, for the sake of the country. But little do they realize they keep making the country weaker. Nixon's declaration about "it" not being illegal if the "president" does it, turned out to be true. Maybe we'll learn after president Cotton jails a bunch of Biden administration folks.........

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Sun Jul 26, 2020, 10:33 AM

61. Nixon, Reagan, and Bush were all let off the hook.

So no. But I would love to be wrong. My dream is for orange Anus to be arrested moments after Joe is sworn in. Televised nationally.

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