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A draft of the Democratic platform gives a nod to Medicare for All, but the left says it's better than nothing.
By HOLLY OTTERBEIN
07/22/2020 05:16 PM EDT
Progressives hate incrementalism, but theyre learning to take what they can get from Joe Biden.
After failing earlier this month to persuade a Biden "unity" task force to endorse Medicare for All not to mention the Green New Deal, a federal jobs guarantee and pot legalization aides to Bernie Sanders won an explicit nod to the single-payer movement in a draft 80-page Democratic Party platform obtained by POLITICO. They also successfully lobbied for a somewhat less hawkish foreign policy than Democrats had in their platform four years ago.
The drafting of the document in recent weeks was the latest front in a tug-of-war between moderates and progressives over the direction and breadth of the party's agenda. It demonstrates that progressives are continuing to make step-by-step progress in pushing Biden and the party left. At the same time, it shows the limited sway of the left, with the paper largely reflecting Biden's centrist vision for the country, with promises to build on the Affordable Care Act and provide military aid to Israel.
The Democratic National Committees platform committee is set to take up the proposal on Monday.
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Merlot
(9,696 posts)Peacetrain
(22,881 posts)Seriously....bullsh*t.. Biden is not a less than.. we had a number of good people run.. He won. Because the voter wanted Joe Biden and his ability to come in and start picking up the pieces. What we are going to have to do is try and save this country from full destruction after this current resident slinks back to his golf courses..
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)I'm sure you already know that the editors write the headlines, and sometimes they write them without good reason. Thus, the change.
ismnotwasm
(42,022 posts)The country is nearly burning from a lack of social justice with black men being shot in the street. And this whiny little dig at Biden is whats important enough to write about?
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)JI7
(89,281 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,539 posts)JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)I don't get it.
blogslut
(38,021 posts)JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)Me too.
padah513
(2,511 posts)I thought this sort of thing was against the rules
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)I will try to answer.
elleng
(131,254 posts)and others too, Joe. Holly's a good thinker, but this is off the mark, imo.
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)So what specifically about the article "is off the mark" for you?
JHB
(37,163 posts)First, lets get this out for the way: nobody cares about your (or anybody else's) favored lunch meats. Unless you're allergic, the Lunch Protein Of the Gods is peanut butter. End discussion.
As for the article, it uses a divisive framing for click-bait purposes. It's not framed as a tale of political compromise, it's framed as the progressives getting the sort end of the stick.
That's needlessly divisive and shoddy journalism, but it'll piss off progressives reading the headline and get them to click and read more.
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...a lunchmeat? A clip you don't like would be very helpful!
JHB
(37,163 posts)...but not other things, and they still agreed that they could support the compromise.
Film at fu**ing eleven.
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)highplainsdem
(49,065 posts)been a catchy enough story. LOL.
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)They changed it since. See the article now.
SlogginThroughIt
(1,977 posts)The voters loudly rejected him. A quote from Hamilton.... You aint got the votes!
It is incredibly easy to sit and and spout off about pie in the sky when there is no will to pass your agenda. And I applaud the effort to push the dialogue left. But in the end that is all you are good for if you dont have the votes. And if that is all you can do because thats the route you have chosen then dont whine when thats what you achieve. Meanwhile getting legislation passed that actually helps people should not be pissed on. We have people being beaten and murdered in the streets by a bunch of authoritarian thugs and we are complaining that the people that are garnering actual votes are our candidates???? are you fucking kidding me?
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)ChoppinBroccoli
(3,785 posts)Could the intention behind writing this article be ANY more obvious? And if that wasn't the intention, then it's wildly irresponsible.
JoeOtterbein
(7,702 posts)...I don't understand.
Happy Hoosier
(7,450 posts)Seems to be framed to emphasize the settling aspect of compromise. It could have, for example, emphasized that the platform is likely to be the most progressive in history. Even Bernie Sanders on MSNBC that Joe Biden is likely to be the most Progressive President in U.S. history. But that article, and the headline in particular, emphasizes what they give up, rather than what they gain.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)"after failing earlier this month to persuade a Biden "unity" task force to endorse Medicare for All not to mention the Green New Deal"
Didn't Biden just come out with a revised plan to cut carbon emissions to 0 in 15 years? Isn't that even more aggressive than the plan Bernie called for just a couple of years ago?
NNadir
(33,580 posts)I understand that so called "progressives" love to whine and whine and whine and whine about how nobody gives a shit about their shit, but for christ's sake, people are dying.
How "progressive" is it, exactly to be whining that the Democratic candidate doesn't meet their stupid selfish visions of their own ersatz holiness when people are dying, getting their heads split open by secret police, children are in cages.
Do they care?
Do they give a rat's ass.
Maybe they should follow an asphalt road out into the wilderness and howl at a wind turbine...
JI7
(89,281 posts)JI7
(89,281 posts)and only having named a couple of post offices.
Renew Deal
(81,889 posts)mvd
(65,180 posts)I was a Sanders supporter and wish he could be President. Also, his positions polled well in states. But a lot of people didnt want to take a chance this year. It certainly doesnt mean progressives are failing. We have some good young progressives in Congress, and the electorate will be changing demographically. I for one am excited about Biden because I am excited to have sanity back in the WH. And he sounds open to listening.