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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI dont know exactly what traitors orders are from Putin but something is dawning on me
He cant allow the election, we know that.
So, the more he and ICE storm troopers break the law and illegally arrest people in Chicago and San Francisco and Portland and New York City (this will all happen in the next 45 days) the more likely us patriots will react.
When we react to save our country from these fascist mass murderers, there will be chaos and there is a way traitor can use that to postpone, indefinitely, the election. (google David Frum and WH postponing election)
So beware. Maybe, as vile as they are, we should NOT protest or do anything, do not give them the satisfaction, just wait for the election?
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Or stay home until they get bored.
Problem with plan A is that some far right instigators (or undercover stormtroopers) will instigate things.
DSandra
(999 posts)The even bigger issue here is state sovereignty, we can't let them violate state sovereignty, this is classic bullying on a federal level.
DSandra
(999 posts)We can't NOT do anything, America lost 400,000 citizens fighting fascism in WWII, previous generations were brave, we have to be as well.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)there needs to be more people, not less. I think it's the same people that go on about people not protesting, that are now against protesters.....unless they don't disturb traffic patterns, and are totally peaceful with no outside agitators. If there is any possibility that their lives could be affected, they will make protesters their arch-enemy.
LizBeth
(9,952 posts)Last edited Tue Jul 21, 2020, 05:31 PM - Edit history (1)
They are gone. He has them. They are perfectly willing, gleeful to do it. They are the SS. Law enforcement. All of them.
Trump has them. They willing play with their Nazi, white power supremacists. They have been throwing their white power sign like nazi salute, and backing the rw gun toking thugs.
It does not look like he has the military. Yet. They actually got embarrassed and MAYBE felt some shame with the DC protest.
Zoonart
(11,861 posts)Want to yank the rug out from Orange-Don's junta? Leave the streets. Get organized off of the street for voting and for demonstrations around election time. We will need to be organized then, if he decides to claim the election was rigged.
Also, if you power down a little on the streets you begin to shake out the outside agitators.
Just some thoughts from my war rally days.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)If we had an MLK and a SNVCC today, we might be able to pull it off, but we don't have them.
(RIP John Lewis)
ananda
(28,859 posts)Also, Trump himself does not like to be ignored.
DSandra
(999 posts)They will gloat and Trump will claim victory. That will send the message that Trump's Gestapo can run roughshod around Democratically run cities
It is also a problem if Trump's goons can use fake protesters instigating violence and use pictures of them for Fox News and Newsmax and use that as the excuse for violence against peaceful protesters. The Right Wing has successfully gotten tens of millions of Americans to just turn to them for knowing whats happening around America.
murielm99
(30,736 posts)The states are in charge of their own elections. He would not have the manpower to stop the elections in every state. They can go ahead and hold the elections whether or not he likes it.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)and he CAN postpone the election...
no_hypocrisy
(46,094 posts)You take a location that is peaceful and serene. You dress up dozens of Storm Troopers like regular citizens, perhaps have them wear buttons or something that identifies them as anti-Hitler. You now have provocateurs. They create a ruckus and get louder and more violent. The State Police come in and arrest everyone, even the ones not doing anything. Send them to concentration camps. Release the Storm Troopers.
Repeat and rinse.
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)We Democrats are united.
Election 2020 will be known as the dismissal of rump's sycophants and Republican electoral chances for redemption. imo
Chainfire
(17,536 posts)There will be an election. The winning side will crow and the losing side will whine. We need to make sure we are the ones crowing.
lostnfound
(16,178 posts)Hacking or shutting down election machinery in a few key states, who is going to stop them?
I have no confidence that anyone has visibility into election systems to the extent necessary to prevent sabotage.
calguy
(5,306 posts)They took it a little too far. The liberal movement was set back decades because of it. I pray it doesn't happen again. You know trump and his planners have studied history.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Kampf but knows nothing, retains nothing.
His boss Putin and his handler Barr do know a lot though.
I dont know if he will kill me with the virus or not, but he wants me dead.