Esther Salas case: 'Feminazi' rants of lawyer who shot judge's family

[KY_EnviroGuy]

Esther Salas case: 'Feminazi' rants of lawyer who shot judge's family
BBC News

A lawyer who shot dead a female judge's son before turning the gun on himself had ranted online about "Feminazi rule"

Read it here: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53480166

Excerpts:

Roy Den Hollander gunned down Judge Esther Salas' son in New Jersey on Sunday and badly wounded her husband. Den Hollander wrote on his website that the jurist was "a lazy and incompetent Latina judge appointed by Obama".

Den Hollander was a self-described "anti-feminist" lawyer who had sued nightclubs over ladies' night discounts, the federal government over a law protecting women from violence and a university over women's studies courses.

He also brought a lawsuit before Judge Salas in 2015 challenging the male-only military draft. In a 1,700-page memoir he published online, Den Hollander said he had "wanted to ask the Judge out, but thought she might hold me in contempt".

NBC News reports that he also wrote of fantasising about the rape of a female judge who had presided over his divorce case.

Hollander's body was discovered near Liberty in New York's Sullivan County, about 130 miles (210km) from the crime scene, according to CBS News.

Sonds like a typical Trumpster to me.


KY........

[notinkansas]

1. Is there any evidence

other than online rants? I wonder what led them to this guy.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

4. Nothing I've found in the news that answers that question.

Purely my speculation, but some possibilities are.....

* Hollander may have previously threatened the judge or her husband, say by phone or letter.
* Security video may have provided some clues including ID of the car.
* Mr. Anderl may have interacted with Hollander and recognized him during the event and relayed clues to police while still conscious.

The police didn't locate him but rather his body was discovered by a municipal employee in the town of Rockland.

More answers should be revealed soon.

KY

[Cha]

8. TY for your OP, KY.. I googled a lot this morning to see how

Hollander became a "suspect" and I couldn't get anything. All of a sudden he was just a suspect and then he was reported having committed suicide in Rockland, NY.

Now we know more.. that he was "notorious" ..

Den Hollander was a notoriously anti-feminist men's rights attorney, whose vitriolic website and book condemn women in rage-filled terms. In one of his books, he specifically blasted Salas by name as "lazy and incompetent" and said her only accomplishment was being a high school cheerleader. Den Hollander appeared in her court at one time as counsel in a lawsuit over the all-male military draft.

It's reported in this article tha Hollander had a serious cancer condition..

The body, identified by sources as attorney Roy Den Hollander, was found on a property in the Sullivan County town of Rockland, near Liberty, which is in the New York Catskills. Den Hollander had previously announced on a GoFundMe page, titled "Cancer knocks you down & doctors finish you off," that he was being treated for an apparent serious cancer condition.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/dead-man-in-ny-may-be-tied-to-killing-of-nj-federal-judges-son-shooting-of-her-husband-sources/2521563/

[Eugene]

6. Add to the rants a 2019 self-published book and a strikingly similar killing of another

"men's rights" lawyer. Hollander was the obvious first person to check out.

Anti-Feminist’ Lawyer Is Suspect in Killing of Son of Federal Judge in N.J. (New York Times)

When investigators discovered Mr. Den Hollander’s body, they found a package nearby that was addressed to Judge Salas, according to a law enforcement official. The package was empty.

On Sunday afternoon, the judge’s husband was at home when he looked out the window and thought he saw a FedEx deliveryman.

-snip-

In the epilogue of the online book he published in 2019, Mr. Den Hollander alluded to his cancer diagnosis, describing a visit to a surgeon and the need to hand off his cases to other lawyers. “Death’s hand is on my left shoulder,” he wrote, adding that “nothing in this life matters anymore.”

He said that he had enjoyed fighting against people who violated his rights.

“The only problem with a life lived too long under Feminazi rule,” he said, “is that a man ends up with so many enemies he can’t even the score with all of them.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/20/nyregion/esther-salas.html

[mr_lebowski]

2. If he had 1/2 the proverbial cajones of the average female ...

He'd have stepped up and faced the consequences of his actions.

[IcyPeas]

3. Feminazi is, I believe

A term coined by Rush Limbaugh. You know, that jerk that got a medal.

[Cha]

5. And, here's a connection to trump the one who gave limbaugh the medal..

Den Hollander previously sued multiple NBC News anchors, as well as anchors from other networks, and alleged they engaged in an illegal conspiracy to prevent Donald Trump's election to the presidency.)

This is what I've been trying to find out.. how did Roy Den Hollander become a "suspect" and what ted them to the location where he was in New York?

The FBI, U.S. Marshals, New Jersey State Police and the New Jersey Office of the Attorney General all have personnel investigating, and the FBI had tweeted it was looking for "one subject" in the shooting. It's not clear what led authorities to the location in Liberty where the suspect was found dead.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/dead-man-in-ny-may-be-tied-to-killing-of-nj-federal-judges-son-shooting-of-her-husband-sources/2521563/

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2541998

[IcyPeas]

7. Here is Roy Den Hollander on the Colbert Report in 2011

About 3/4 in he calls his ex wife a prostitute. He exclaims "what am i doing with a russian mafia prostitute who used to be mistress to a Chechin warlord". He had a screw loose.

[Cha]

9. TY for that, IcyPeas Yes, it seems RDH was not stable.. it's

reported he had cancer, too.. and it seems like from reading the reports on him that he wanted to get his "justice" on Judge Salas before he took himself out.

[IcyPeas]

10. He was a trumpster... volunteered on his campaign.

The New Jersey Shooting Suspect Left a Pro-Trump Paper Trail.

... In contrast, he writes in the same sprawling document that he was a volunteer for the presidential campaign of Donald Trump, who he said “was telling the truth about illegal aliens in his bid for the Presidency.” Den Hollander describes “leaving the law library in the early afternoon for Trump Tower, 12 blocks up Fifth Avenue, to make telephone calls during the primaries and the general election.” Recounting his time working for the campaign, he says most of his fellow volunteers “were aging baby boomers like me. Once in a while some hot young model chick would show up to make calls. They never sat next to me.” ....

More....
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/07/judge-esther-salas-shooting-suspect-left-pro-trump-paper-trail/614425/

[KY_EnviroGuy]

12. Thanks for posting that article, it explains a lot.

Suggest he may have been after the judge, after all. Obviously a very mentally ill person and probably so for most of his life.

Snip.....

His voluminous writings—more than 10,000 pages of PDFs—show a deep sense of grievance against women, especially his mother, who he claims told him, at age 4, “I wish I had listened to your father and never had you!” He calls her a witch, a “Nazi loon,” and “another malevolent female.” He also describes kissing girls in third grade frequently enough that their parents complained to their teacher. The document, one of several he uploaded to the Internet Archive, is a disturbing but by now common coda to high-profile incidents of gun violence: the suspected shooter leaving a trail of arguments and anger in random corners of the web. Many of them involve a hatred of women and people of color, and connect broad claims about the world with very personal claims of grievance.

RIP to the Judge's son.......

[CatLady78]

11. Men's Rights-Another fringe movement

Grievances have an intoxicating quality...For people like these, they become their main drug...

I find people like these useful when I feel upset or aggrieved . Well not this guy..he is too nutty.
But sometimes when I see how many grievances supposedly rugged right wing nuts hold, it gives me perspective......

A lot of these right wing people complain all the time. It is strange that they see themselves as rugged individualists. I am not a fan of goofy corporate pr style "optimism". Otoh an appropriate amount of perspective about yourself is a hallmark of sanity. People like this man are divorced from reality. He will go to his grave convinced that feminism caused his problems.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

13. Yes, and a man like this could never find peace in his lifetime.

Humanity should be drifting toward an increasing willingness for deep, honest self-appraisal but instead we seem to be going the wrong way toward personal isolation and total emotional and social self-sufficiency.

The openness of the internet is worsening that trend, as evil people take advantage of the mentally ill. Instead, people should be seeking professional help.

KY