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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCA Progressives want Bass, Lee or (Nina)Turner as VP
Bass is reasonable and on the shortlist, Lee is less likely but amazing, and Turner is just an insane proposition.
2of3Rep. Karen Bass, D-Los Angeles, is one of progressives picks to be Joe Bidens running mate in the Democratic presidential campaign.Photo: Kevin Dietsch / Getty Images
Former Ohio state Sen. Nina Turner (left), shown with former presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders and activist Jim Hightower in 2018, is one of progressives picks to be Joe Bidens running mate in the Democratic presidential campaign.
California Sen. Kamala Harris is widely believed to be on Joe Bidens short list for vice president, but a group of Bernie Sanders supporters in the California Democratic Party wants the nominee-to-be to pick either Oakland Rep. Barbara Lee or one of two other Black women instead.
Lee, Los Angeles Rep. Karen Bass and Nina Turner, a former Ohio state senator, would make excellent running mates, Sanders delegates to the Democratic National Convention wrote in a letter to Biden that was obtained by The Chronicle.
In order to meet this historic moment, Democrats must select an exceptional progressive vice presidential candidate who will both inspire the 90 million Americans who did not vote in 2016 to cast a ballot this November and lead America into a new era of equality, compassion, and economic justice, the Sanders backers wrote.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-progressives-want-Barbara-Lee-Karen-15419043.php
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)jorgevlorgan
(8,347 posts)Karen Bass on the other hand is incredible.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Horse with no Name
(33,958 posts)msongs
(67,478 posts)It's just a preference among Bernie delegates. Bass would be a great idea.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,950 posts)still_one
(92,492 posts)in the General Election to defeat trump in 2016
irisblue
(33,047 posts)I was one of her voters. She will not bring Ohio's 18 electoral votes.
jorgevlorgan
(8,347 posts)But rather to excite and unify the base. Not sure we would get that from Turner. At all.
still_one
(92,492 posts)2naSalit
(86,900 posts)Not one of them is as qualified to be VP as Susan Rice. And a sound, oh hell NO on Nina Turner... she would lose the election for us.
still_one
(92,492 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)He has a spare after all.
Mentioning Reps. Bass or Lee along with her sounds rather misguided, though. Neither supported Bernie Sanders for president, for instance. They're both long-time liberal Democratic members of the large house progressive caucus, and also chair and former chair of the congressional black caucus. Lee's now one of three co-chairs of the very important steering and policy committee.
Perhaps Nina Turner's best opportunity to rise in an organization, and that of others who are in such passionate disagreement with most Democratic voters that they could support illicitly taking the primary nomination away from the choice of the majority, would be to create a political home where anti-democracy leftists could gather. Their choice to stay registered as Democrats, of course, but... of course no power in the Democratic Party for them. That's basic.
Preference is not predicated on candidate loyalty, but actual progressive credentials. Lee, for example, is co chair of the progressive caucus and has advocated progressive policies her entire career. Karen Bass is not as progressive but prevails in insurmountable character and integrity. I think progressives see that.
comradebillyboy
(10,184 posts)She's totally unacceptable. Does she even support our nominee?
Gothmog
(145,805 posts)I would not characterize Nina as a democrat right now given her vote for Jill Stein. A vote for Jill stein was a vote for trump
lapucelle
(18,378 posts)comradebillyboy
(10,184 posts)Thanks for the information.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)FarPoint
(12,473 posts)is worse than nails on a chalkboard for me...
Initech
(100,129 posts)And last thing we need is someone who isn't as prolific. Also, fuck purity tests. We need Harris or Warren as the VP.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)of our house progressive and black caucuses. Lee's one of the Democratic house leaders.
Nothing like Nina Turner.
Initech
(100,129 posts)The thing is, we can't fuck this up, and we have to take down Trump. At all costs. I want someone who has decent enough popularity and can bring in the moderates.
Plus whoever is vice president may have to run in 2024 if Joe is too old for a second term. That's something that has to be paid attention to as well.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)them to believe progressive Democrats are not are fringe types. They're few and, by definition, very vulnerable to manipulation.
They get to offer suggestions like everyone else, and Biden's team will thank them for them. But Biden and his team are people of good judgement and Biden's workmate will be vetted by them and chosen by Biden himself for himself, but we know good character and judgement, and proven competence, are absolute requirements.
I was just amused at the idea of Nina Turner. Good grief.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)This individual who refused to support the ticket in 2016?
Atticus
(15,124 posts)worthy of any respect at all. They have branded themselves "NOT SERIOUS".
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)the majority of us prefer someone that people have actually heard of.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)He picks Harris he wins Florida. If on election night Florida is called for Biden, fix a drink and be prepared to to enjoy the evening.
When it was called for Obama in 08 and 12 she show was over.
TomSlick
(11,126 posts)Selecting her would be an insult to every Democrat that supported Biden in the primaries.
I want to vote for Biden and not just against Trump. Joe, just say no.
JI7
(89,283 posts)under serious consideration for VP.
oasis
(49,455 posts)She needs to take few election cycles off and do a ton of soul searching.
Iggo
(47,586 posts)People are easy.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,250 posts)ticket.
jmowreader
(50,580 posts)These "California Progressives" are attempting to throw the election to Trump by demanding Nina Turner as his running mate.
George II
(67,782 posts)Gothmog
(145,805 posts)This had to be satire because no one in their right mind would believe that this was a possibility
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,227 posts)Bass and Lee are respectable but lack the necessary profile for the job.
Nina Turner, on the other hand....
brooklynite
(94,922 posts)....with the same likelihood of being listened to.
BGBD
(3,282 posts)Nina Turner?
MineralMan
(146,345 posts)Really? I'm sorry, but they're not really "all that."