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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPortland: protesters' outrage grows over federal officers' 'blatant abuse'
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/19/portland-police-federal-agents-protestJuniper Simonis was drawing a line in chalk in front of a federal building on a recent Friday in Portland, Oregon, to mark the propertys boundary and thus where they could protest. Then they felt a hand on their elbow.
Simonis, 35, who uses they/them pronouns, was in an area that has been a hotspot for anti-racist and anti-police brutality protests. They were suddenly surrounded by federal officers. Their service dog, needed for their PTSD, was pulled away. They were handcuffed and maced.
Wallace is like my wheelchair or my insulin pump, Simonis, a quantitative ecologist, told the Guardian. Yes, hes a puppy dog, but I cant live without him.
Simonis said it took an hour before they were read their Miranda rights and told they were being charged with spray-painting federal property.
For the next nine hours, they said, they were held in a cell in the basement of a federal courthouse, with no potable water. Despite repeatedly requesting a lawyer, they were questioned by federal officers, including a special agent from the Federal Protective Service, the security police division of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).
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stonecutter357
(12,698 posts)tblue37
(65,502 posts)Skittles
(153,254 posts)what does that even mean?
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)I think the term of art is gender non-specific.
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,260 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Wrong.
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,260 posts)"Quantitative ecology is the application of advanced mathematical and statistical tools to any number of problems in the field of ecology. It is a small but growing subfield in ecology, reflecting the demand among practicing ecologists to interpret ever larger and more complex data sets using quantitative reasoning."
Sounds like an important field of study.
obamanut2012
(26,165 posts)Juniper explicitly IDs as NB.
Juniper is not a service animal.
JFC that place sometimes.
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,260 posts)inseparable. She depends on him like a diabetic would on an insulin pump.
I thought she could possibly be referring to the both of them.
NB is a new term to me. I can see that this might be the reason for the reference.
Thanks.
edit: were to that
obamanut2012
(26,165 posts)jfc
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,260 posts)MissB
(15,812 posts)So instead of saying she has a dog, you would say that they have a dog.
Instead of saying she had red hair, youd say they have red hair.
Its not just a Portland thing although its rather well embraced around here. Many signature lines in professional emails state these preferences.
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,260 posts)That is what I so loved about Harvey Milk. He was so patient, while at the same time being bad ass. He knew it was about educating people.
I always reflect this quote of his: "You must tell your friends if indeed they are your friends. You must tell the people you work with. You must tell the people in the stores you shop in. Once they realize that we are indeed their children, that we are indeed everywhere, every myth, every lie, every innuendo will be destroyed once and all."
Orangepeel
(13,933 posts)rather than as "she" or "he"
Likely because they don't identify as either female or male, but there might be other reasons, including support for others who don't
obamanut2012
(26,165 posts)Including me.
It is 2020, and this is literally nothing new or trendy.
Skittles
(153,254 posts)csziggy
(34,139 posts)But I am glad to see that it is an option now recognized by at least some media. I like that there is a defined way to talk about someone when there is no obvious gender identity.
Skittles
(153,254 posts)that would be OK with me for sure
csziggy
(34,139 posts)I happily took to it since I am not a "Miss" since I am married, but I am also not a Mrs." since I do not use my husband's surname. "Ms" is the appropriate title for me.
It didn't hurt that I grew up in the South where "Miz" was and still is common usage by many for any woman no matter their marital status or age.
Skittles
(153,254 posts)I too liked it, because men's marital status was not identified by MR so it was only fair that women could be addressed in a way that did not identify marital status!
MissB
(15,812 posts)Its only been about two years that Ive seen it in signature lines on emails. Our employer encourages listing our preferences in our signature line.
But before that? It really wasnt that prevalent. I try to give my elders some kind leeway and explain when the subject comes up because they may not have encountered it yet in their social circles. I assume folks can learn, as I did.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,480 posts)To me it's because I have no gender,yet my gender is fluid, and I am transgendered and a partial post op. And I am many people inside many genders many selves.
They them pronouns are about identity..
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)And why would one bring their dog into such a situation?
Skittles
(153,254 posts)AnotherMother4Peace
(4,260 posts)any number of problems in the field of ecology. It is a small but growing subfield in ecology, reflecting the demand among practicing ecologists to interpret ever larger and more complex data sets using quantitative reasoning.
This sounds like a very nerdy & important field of study. It sounds like a field my brilliant friend with Asperger's would love.
Skittles
(153,254 posts)like, maybe an example of how it is used
I guess I need to research.
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,260 posts)She was delineating areas of property: fed, public, etc., with chalk. According to the article she was suddenly manhandled.
TryLogic
(1,723 posts)by Barr's and Trump's SS/Gastopo.
OMGWTF
(3,981 posts)CCExile
(473 posts)commands from UNMARKED, and therefore unidentifiable, persons? How would we know that they are not just militia clowns? Or hired bikers having fun? Unknown thugs wearing military garb with NO identifying insignia should be THE FIRST ones arrested by legitimate law enforcement.
machoneman
(4,016 posts)Think we all need to cool it until Election Day and not give Trumpypants the opportunity to send his goons out to harass peaceful protestors.