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Honestly what the f$&k is wrong with the 49% of white people still supporting Trump. (Original Post) onecaliberal Jul 2020 OP
A LOT. n/t OneGrassRoot Jul 2020 #1
More than half don't support trump. pwb Jul 2020 #2
How could anyone still support him. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #5
You sound... Tipperary Jul 2020 #67
Enjoy your understanding in the dust bin. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #95
49% of who specifically? agingdem Jul 2020 #15
49% of white people. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #21
What you see is the result of a concerted effort lunatica Jul 2020 #42
This. customerserviceguy Jul 2020 #50
Driving around the US Ive found vast areas where there is no NPR or any Kashkakat v.2.0 Jul 2020 #74
Agree. Also, wannabe kleptocrats had to target Hortensis Jul 2020 #78
All cults have a similar problem. kentuck Jul 2020 #123
Are threads advocating racial hatred okay at DU now? mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #3
I am a middle aged white woman, spare me. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #8
Please read your own words. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2020 #9
I despise anyone who supports white supremacy. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #13
Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #64
Actually not yet 60. Enjoy the dust bin. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #100
Lmao. Tipperary Jul 2020 #107
. TexasTowelie Jul 2020 #125
"threads advocating racial hatred..." demmiblue Jul 2020 #20
Quite The Reach ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #30
I saw no such thing lunatica Jul 2020 #43
"Racial hatred." WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2020 #49
Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #55
That's really not a good idea. Any ambiguity in the OP was cleared up before you posted muriel_volestrangler Jul 2020 #90
Oh, you're breaking my heart. cwydro Jul 2020 #112
"Wow"? Yes, it was a temporary ambiguity. They cleared up it's the 49% that who are Trump supporters muriel_volestrangler Jul 2020 #119
Bye Felicia. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #97
Really? cwydro Jul 2020 #108
I am certainly bigoted against The Trump Supporting Trash. Proudly so. Progressive Jones Jul 2020 #106
You read that as racial hatred? gollygee Jul 2020 #89
It does seem that way. DavidDvorkin Jul 2020 #91
srsly?! SlogginThroughIt Jul 2020 #127
Hey, it's still more specific than just saying White people, Karen, Millenial, Boomer, etc dustyscamp Jul 2020 #132
the polls show he still has the white, non college educated, but eroding support from the rest Siwsan Jul 2020 #4
Speaking as a white person, yeah, I'm baffled. unblock Jul 2020 #6
We have a huge segment of the country who believe white, Christian patriarchy IS America. CrispyQ Jul 2020 #7
Same here. I go back and forth from being despondent to enraged. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #11
Sorry, can't recommend your personal bias Backseat Driver Jul 2020 #10
I'm pretty sure I wasn't asking you to. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #12
"Not all white people" StarfishSaver Jul 2020 #40
49% seems rather high for any support of rump, where was this figure obtained, I question its SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #14
It's a poll CNN reported this morning. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #19
Thanks. I question its validity. Sorry. The % quoted seems rather high compared to prior SWBTATTReg Jul 2020 #35
Have a good day. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #48
According to this article the number is actually 51% overall. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #29
That article is 3 months old nt sweetloukillbot Jul 2020 #32
Oh dear. HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #34
Oy! onecaliberal Jul 2020 #44
I'm sure the Native Americans have been asking the same question from the time white people jalan48 Jul 2020 #16
+100 DSandra Jul 2020 #37
Racism. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2020 #17
Me too. iemitsu Jul 2020 #18
Racism, patriarchy, raised in conservative environments/social pressure, ignorance, religion... n/t demmiblue Jul 2020 #22
White extinction anxiety plus fetus lovers and greedy wealthy types plus his hardcore deplorables ? lunasun Jul 2020 #23
The good news is that nothing is apparently wrong with 51% of white people according to HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #24
I welcome their hatred. I would NEVER want to be lumped in with the 49% onecaliberal Jul 2020 #26
I find it remarkable that both the Left and the Right HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #33
What's sad is in 2020 people fight against equality for every human on earth. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #45
Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #75
Yeah, they mostly do, don't they? Igel Jul 2020 #92
Except one side is apparently on board meadowlander Jul 2020 #53
And is the other side is apparently on board with HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #128
Except my list already happened in reality meadowlander Jul 2020 #131
Thank you. cwydro Jul 2020 #58
Forgive me if I've misread your post but it seems like an encouraging one HotTeaBag Jul 2020 #141
But the figure is 49% whites would vote for Trump, 42% for Biden muriel_volestrangler Jul 2020 #103
Its awful but its more understandable than the black people who support Trump. milestogo Jul 2020 #25
I try to look at people based on their content and not their color but I hear you. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #28
or people of any ethnicity other than white stopdiggin Jul 2020 #79
I don't know Bettie Jul 2020 #27
I live in The district in California represented by Devin Nunes. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #31
Racism. They focus on race fescuerescue Jul 2020 #36
If I live to be a thousand, I will not understand. Laffy Kat Jul 2020 #38
I'm pretty sure they don't support "him". He's a mess, and any living thing with ooky Jul 2020 #39
I prefer to not live a life consumed by hate. Kaleva Jul 2020 #41
I'd prefer that too but when I see black men's lives extinguished by out of control police onecaliberal Jul 2020 #47
Ok, but getting upset about those who are hopeless isn't going to change anything maximusveritas Jul 2020 #60
They're worth thinking about because they allow him to REMAIN in office onecaliberal Jul 2020 #69
Exacly. We can't ignore the problem. It is literally killing us. SunSeeker Jul 2020 #96
Thank you! onecaliberal Jul 2020 #98
+1 lunasun Jul 2020 #114
So what are your plans of action? Kaleva Jul 2020 #66
I've been making calls. Sending post cards and making donations as I can. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #70
Looks like a good and productive plan but, IMHO, you ought to amend your OP Kaleva Jul 2020 #77
"Sending post cards." cwydro Jul 2020 #110
She listed a bunch of things gollygee Jul 2020 #111
Bwahaha! cwydro Jul 2020 #113
Obviously you haven't done a lot of campaigning gollygee Jul 2020 #117
Have you never worked on a campaign? gollygee Jul 2020 #118
Denial. (n/t) Iggo Jul 2020 #46
What's WRONG with despising 100% of whites because of 49%? Hortensis Jul 2020 #51
Nah. Tipperary Jul 2020 #63
Please show me where is said I despise all white people. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #71
Yeah, you sure are. Tipperary Jul 2020 #76
Despising oneself and the groups one identifies with Hortensis Jul 2020 #85
: onecaliberal Jul 2020 #93
I was just pointing out that we don't actually know each Hortensis Jul 2020 #105
Seriously? Not All White People? Iggo Jul 2020 #72
Did someone say they despise 100% of white people? gollygee Jul 2020 #88
They believe cultural appropriation isn't a real thing that happens ismnotwasm Jul 2020 #52
Omg. cwydro Jul 2020 #65
So, a majority of white people support Biden? MineralMan Jul 2020 #54
No; Biden is still behind among white voters in the latest polls muriel_volestrangler Jul 2020 #101
Where did your statistics come from? MineralMan Jul 2020 #56
Good luck. cwydro Jul 2020 #59
Yes, why does the op not link to a source? Tipperary Jul 2020 #68
It was a poll on CNN this morning. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #120
imagine posting this about any other group. cwydro Jul 2020 #57
Lots of "not all white people" going on here. ibegurpard Jul 2020 #61
I guess 51% of us are just well-meaning idiots wasting our time, then.Not to mention DU's population Hekate Jul 2020 #82
Mediocre White people believe that they're entitled to dominate the world. Yavin4 Jul 2020 #62
Please post a link as many have asked you. Tipperary Jul 2020 #73
Rephrase. Or something. Please. Hekate Jul 2020 #80
Nah, she won't. cwydro Jul 2020 #109
Once again, tons of responses are centering the comfort of white people gollygee Jul 2020 #81
From my post #82 Hekate Jul 2020 #84
That has nothing to do with the OP gollygee Jul 2020 #87
Exactly. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #121
I think a lot of it is due to generational differences, tbh. n/t demmiblue Jul 2020 #86
Lol... nothing wrong with this post. demmiblue Jul 2020 #83
I have zero fucks left to give. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #94
. Iggo Jul 2020 #124
We never seriously dealt with white racism in this country JI7 Jul 2020 #99
Having empathy and knowing a few basics Beringia Jul 2020 #102
He's always been repulsive. You'd have to live under a rock not to know. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #104
We have to go through this "not all white people" thing every time. betsuni Jul 2020 #115
Hear, hear. onecaliberal Jul 2020 #122
I encountered it in Las Vegas 1984 Awsi Dooger Jul 2020 #116
Wow. A whole lot of white fragility on this thread. Coventina Jul 2020 #126
Thank you. Good to know I'm not alone. We have to get passed this shit for the country to onecaliberal Jul 2020 #130
The cast of "usual suspects" Nature Man Jul 2020 #139
I noticed that as well! Coventina Jul 2020 #140
If Trump only gets 49% of white people voting he's fucked... jcgoldie Jul 2020 #129
Trump speaks directly to the secret fears of a segment of society Demovictory9 Jul 2020 #133
All I know is that social media hasn't helped matters. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #134
I found the poll JonLP24 Jul 2020 #135
I think that number is inflated. nt Baltimike Jul 2020 #136
Selfishness. nt Hotler Jul 2020 #137
LBJ was the last Democratic presidential candidate to win a majority of the white vote. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2020 #138

onecaliberal

(32,788 posts)
5. How could anyone still support him.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:46 PM
Jul 2020

138,000 + dead with NO plan to improve anything. I’m so fucking over it.

agingdem

(7,806 posts)
15. 49% of who specifically?
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:03 PM
Jul 2020

is he saying 49% of the electorate bc if he is that's not true...Trump's will-go-to-the-grave-for Trump sycophants are not that many...they support him because he voices their hate...but the demographics have changed...we are a multicultural multi-ethnic population...blacks, hispanics, muslims, jews, asians, native Americans, LGBT.....there isn't race, an ethnic group, a gender the orange maggot hasn't dog whistled for the benefit of his base...but all of us have long memories and we can vote...we are the majority...and again bullshit to the 49%

onecaliberal

(32,788 posts)
21. 49% of white people.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:13 PM
Jul 2020

the dumpclan is a minority. It’s just disheartening to know his level of support is that high.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
42. What you see is the result of a concerted effort
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:51 PM
Jul 2020

on the part of Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, Evangelical Christian leaders, and the Republican Party to feed the American people one of the longest standing misinformation propaganda ever. It’s been going on since Reagan. It’s a miracle that only 49% of White people have abandoned all critical thinking to believe this.

Just because you and I were busy using our Critical thinking and common sense discriminatory abilities doesn’t mean it wasn’t working on some people.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
50. This.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 02:17 PM
Jul 2020

Every once in awhile, I tune in to Faux Snooze to see how they're spinning things, and it is remarkable how they can cook a story to keep the deplorables on board with the Trump train.

It's an enormous propaganda machine. Goebbels would have been envious of it.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
74. Driving around the US Ive found vast areas where there is no NPR or any
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:08 PM
Jul 2020

other non-Fox option on the radio. Its either religion, country music, screaming heavy metal, or if any talk it's invariably a RW gasbag. Sometimes you get the hog report if its a farming area.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
78. Agree. Also, wannabe kleptocrats had to target
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:16 PM
Jul 2020

the white majority above all to change voting behaviors. Yes, they target AA, mostly their men, with some success, and have made real advances recently among Hispanic conservatives, again especially males, but not entirely.

OneCA, if you want to despise all of some group, how about abandoning race as the focus of hostility and instead targeting all men of all colors ? Men are more prone to bigotry and aggressive antagonism than women, and I promise you that the kind of black and brown men who despise white men and women of all colors are just as ugly as their white fellows.

(Sorry, guys who don't think you deserve this, but bigoted as misandry is, at least it isn't racism.
)

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
3. Are threads advocating racial hatred okay at DU now?
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:46 PM
Jul 2020

Go ahead and alert on my reply. It won't be the first time that's happened.

Response to onecaliberal (Reply #8)

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #3)

muriel_volestrangler

(101,272 posts)
90. That's really not a good idea. Any ambiguity in the OP was cleared up before you posted
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:39 PM
Jul 2020

and yet, you are saying you're thinking of leaving a Democratic website because of a temporary ambiguity. That's a gross over-reaction.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
112. Oh, you're breaking my heart.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:38 PM
Jul 2020

"A temporary ambiguity?" Wow. "Not a good idea?" Who are you to tell me what is a good idea Muriel?

Again, this is why I'm done with this place.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,272 posts)
119. "Wow"? Yes, it was a temporary ambiguity. They cleared up it's the 49% that who are Trump supporters
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 07:40 PM
Jul 2020

that they were talking about. As you'd expect, anyway.

I'm a fellow DUer. I think it's fine for DUers to offer each other constructive advice about staying on DU. I really cannot understand why you are offended by people suggesting you stay on a site you've been part of for years.

dustyscamp

(2,223 posts)
132. Hey, it's still more specific than just saying White people, Karen, Millenial, Boomer, etc
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 02:42 AM
Jul 2020

That's something atleast

Siwsan

(26,253 posts)
4. the polls show he still has the white, non college educated, but eroding support from the rest
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:46 PM
Jul 2020

But who knows.

unblock

(52,129 posts)
6. Speaking as a white person, yeah, I'm baffled.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:46 PM
Jul 2020

Well, power of brainwashing and denial. There's enough bigotry in the media, notably foxnews and hate radio, to reinforce their increasingly bizarre worldview.

It's really hard to break out of a twisted worldview, and especially hard when there's still constant reinforcement of it. This is why they refuse to watch anything other than fox news. It's reassuring for them.


This is why donnie needs to be crushed in November. Nothing but a complete humiliation has even a chance of breaking through. Long term, though, we need a better answer to foxnews. Not just a left wing version. More like constantly dismissing it as crackpot fringe nonsense. Big mistake to have ever treated it as an actual news source.

CrispyQ

(36,425 posts)
7. We have a huge segment of the country who believe white, Christian patriarchy IS America.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:47 PM
Jul 2020

Uppity women, minorities, and gays need not apply. And as for us white liberals who believe that all of us are equal and deserve equality and equity in the system, they view us as the worst of all because we betrayed our "race." These people make me vomit.

Backseat Driver

(4,381 posts)
10. Sorry, can't recommend your personal bias
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 12:48 PM
Jul 2020

based on generalization; were you only assessing white Americans? And yes, it means that 51%, a very slim majority by your number, don't support him - perhaps they do support his party whose questionable leadership wouldn't do the right thing and remove him from office.

SWBTATTReg

(22,081 posts)
35. Thanks. I question its validity. Sorry. The % quoted seems rather high compared to prior
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:29 PM
Jul 2020

figures I've seen in the past. Thanks again for ID'ing the source for me, I appreciate it. Take care and be safe!

jalan48

(13,842 posts)
16. I'm sure the Native Americans have been asking the same question from the time white people
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:05 PM
Jul 2020

arrived on their shores.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
23. White extinction anxiety plus fetus lovers and greedy wealthy types plus his hardcore deplorables ?
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:17 PM
Jul 2020

Plenty of repugs have spoke out against him so no one can hide behind “ I’m a party man” this year .
The racists and facist types are happy as ever

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
24. The good news is that nothing is apparently wrong with 51% of white people according to
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:17 PM
Jul 2020

your metric of who to despise.

But the bad news is, chances are you're despised by the other 49%.

And around and around we go.

onecaliberal

(32,788 posts)
26. I welcome their hatred. I would NEVER want to be lumped in with the 49%
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:21 PM
Jul 2020

I live amongst them. It’s sickening.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
33. I find it remarkable that both the Left and the Right
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:28 PM
Jul 2020

use the same terminology when talking about the 'other' side.

'Hatred', 'Sickening', Despise', etc.

Sad.

Response to onecaliberal (Reply #45)

Igel

(35,282 posts)
92. Yeah, they mostly do, don't they?
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jul 2020

Helps not bothering to define "equality".

Income, calories/day, educational achievement, # of sexual partners or sex acts per year, height, job prospects, access to medical care and national parks, lifespan, presumption of innocence and due process ...

meadowlander

(4,388 posts)
53. Except one side is apparently on board
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 02:25 PM
Jul 2020

with traumatising kids and throwing them in cages, clinging to memorials glorifying slavery, conspiring with foreign dictatorships to steal elections, doing nothing about bounties being offered on US troops, teargassing peaceful protestors for a photo op, ignoring lawful Congressional subpoenas to ensure basic oversight and transparency, refusing to wear masks even though they know this is likely to kill people, and not taking any action while the planet slowly boils alive.

So, you know, context.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
128. And is the other side is apparently on board with
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:55 PM
Jul 2020

abortion on demand - well into the third trimester, abolishing the 2nd. Amendment and taking away everyone's guns, throwing open the borders to criminal gangs from Mexico, making sure no conservative thought is allowed on university campuses or editorial pages, getting rid of the police, choking business to death with regulation, destroying capitalism and replacing it with Socialism.

Right?

No, of course they (we) aren't.

There are extremes in each party, but as Rep. John Lewis (I'm guessing you've heard of him) once said -

"We are one people with one family. We all live in the same house... and through books, through information, we must find a way to say to people that we must lay down the burden of hate. For hate is too heavy a burden to bear."

So, you know, understanding.

meadowlander

(4,388 posts)
131. Except my list already happened in reality
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:57 AM
Jul 2020

without a single Republican except Mitt Romney saying boo against it, and your list only exists on Earth 2, the Fox News version of what "liberalism" is actually about.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
58. Thank you.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 02:34 PM
Jul 2020

About done here, but glad to see the efforts of those who aren't.

Been here for many years, but about to say no more. What a change I've sewn.

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
141. Forgive me if I've misread your post but it seems like an encouraging one
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 01:18 PM
Jul 2020

for what I wrote.

If so, please don't leave.

I've been here for many years as well - leaving periodically when it gets to be too much. People have always been snippy (even as far back as 2004 when I first came across the site) but there's been a steady march over the years to actually become the caricature that the Right accuses us of being.

Without voices to push back when things veer too far then there will come a day when DU will simply become a place where group think and knee-jerk reaction rule the day, and as DU is probably the best site to discuss issues with like-minded fellow travelers, that would be a sad day indeed.

In essence, do what you have to do but your presence will be missed.

stopdiggin

(11,254 posts)
79. or people of any ethnicity other than white
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:20 PM
Jul 2020

and yet (granted, in smaller numbers) they do. talk about head spinning!
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Bettie

(16,079 posts)
27. I don't know
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:21 PM
Jul 2020

and I'm a white people myself!

I live in a small town in Iowa.

I am surrounded by redneck assholes who are monumentally stupid.

Most of them have lived here since birth and seldom even leave the state.

After 19 years in this town we're still "new people", because we don't have great-grandparents who grew up here...we get some new families once in a while, even some Black families. They leave in less than a year. I know this because I'm usually the one who sits by the moms at school concerts and other school events, since I'm an outcast as well.

There are liberals here, but they are afraid to speak up.

I have evangelical relatives in Wisconsin, Illinois, Florida, and S. Carolina. ALL of them are right wing tools.

I want to move somewhere more diverse simply so I don't feel like I'm screaming into the void all the time.

onecaliberal

(32,788 posts)
31. I live in The district in California represented by Devin Nunes.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:24 PM
Jul 2020

He is still very popular here. Will probably be re-elected again. I can relate.

fescuerescue

(4,448 posts)
36. Racism. They focus on race
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:31 PM
Jul 2020

to the exclusion of other factors. They hate black people with ever fiber. That's why they are racist.

It's something that the right does.

Fortunately, it doesn't happen here.

ooky

(8,908 posts)
39. I'm pretty sure they don't support "him". He's a mess, and any living thing with
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 01:35 PM
Jul 2020

higher intelligence than a plant can see that. There are 49% that will vote for the "R" candidate for their various personal selfish reasons.

Rich white
Gun humper white
Racist white
Republican lie believing white
etc...

The "R" could be "The Devil" and they would vote for him.

onecaliberal

(32,788 posts)
47. I'd prefer that too but when I see black men's lives extinguished by out of control police
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 02:09 PM
Jul 2020

Who think there will be no consequence for their actions I can’t be ambivalent or turn away any more. We’ve gotten to this point because people turn away or don’t act because it doesn’t affect them. I can’t stand idly by anymore.

maximusveritas

(2,915 posts)
60. Ok, but getting upset about those who are hopeless isn't going to change anything
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 02:35 PM
Jul 2020

If people still support Trump after all this, they are not worth thinking about.
We need to focus on getting our people out to vote especially in battleground states

SunSeeker

(51,523 posts)
96. Exacly. We can't ignore the problem. It is literally killing us.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:46 PM
Jul 2020

But for these 49% of white people who are so racist they are willing to vote for a lying clown so long as he's beating up on people of color, we wouldn't have 140,000 dead Americans right now. President Clinton would have nipped it in the bud like South Korea did, after she was tipped off by her CDC embedded epidemiologists in Wuhan who she didn't fire last year.

Hell, the whole world would have been spared, like it was by Obama from ebola.

The hell that 49% of racist white Americans have brought upon us, and the world, is incalculable, and unbearable.

Kaleva

(36,264 posts)
66. So what are your plans of action?
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 02:55 PM
Jul 2020

People who really believe in something are ready and willing to risk their freedom, standard of living, friends, family and even their lives.

"Obama said Saturday that he hugged Lewis at his inauguration in 2009 and "told him I was only there because of the sacrifices he made."

Lewis "loved this country so much that he risked his life and his blood so that it might live up to its promise," Obama wrote. "

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/17/rep-john-lewis-civil-rights-icon-original-freedom-rider-has-died/795340002/

onecaliberal

(32,788 posts)
70. I've been making calls. Sending post cards and making donations as I can.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:02 PM
Jul 2020

Before covid I was registering people to vote and walking precincts with volunteers in my county democratic central committee. My husband is immunocompromised so I am home to protect him.

Kaleva

(36,264 posts)
77. Looks like a good and productive plan but, IMHO, you ought to amend your OP
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:14 PM
Jul 2020

I think you very much dislike what you've talked about and your level of actions correspond to that but it in't to the level of hate.

I do give you much credit for taking action though as some say they hate or bitterly oppose something but do nothing more then make a post here.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
111. She listed a bunch of things
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:37 PM
Jul 2020

and some campaigns send postcards. I assume someone who is interested enough in politics to be at DU has worked on campaigns. None you've worked on has sent out postcards to constituents? Not sure why that's funny.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
117. Obviously you haven't done a lot of campaigning
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 07:19 PM
Jul 2020

I live in a swing state so maybe we get more postcards than you do. Or maybe you have no argument and you're deflecting.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
85. Despising oneself and the groups one identifies with
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:31 PM
Jul 2020

is unfortunately common. Particularly on the left for the group loathing, but anyone can fall prey to this problem.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
105. I was just pointing out that we don't actually know each
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jul 2020

other and can't make even basic assumptions when so many unknowns are involved. Despising white people does not preclude being one of those white people. Or, of course, any other color.

ismnotwasm

(41,968 posts)
52. They believe cultural appropriation isn't a real thing that happens
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 02:21 PM
Jul 2020

To POC and their cultural skills, talents and history

muriel_volestrangler

(101,272 posts)
101. No; Biden is still behind among white voters in the latest polls
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:52 PM
Jul 2020

YouGov 12-14 Jul: Biden 42% Trump 49% https://docs.cdn.yougov.com/hpupr0zhkl/econTabReport.pdf
Fox Biden 12-15 Jul: 42% Trump 48% https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/07/Fox_July-12-15-2020_Complete_National_Topline_July-19-Release.pdf
ABC/WP Trump has 4 percentage point lead: https://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1214a22020Election.pdf

In the YouGov poll which has the 49% for Trump, 'Other' is 4%, 'Not Sure' 4%, 'wouldn't vote' 1%. It says registered voters, but I think that must be adjusted for "likely to vote". But Trump is still ahead among white voters, unfortunately.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
57. imagine posting this about any other group.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 02:31 PM
Jul 2020

Too funny.

Did you mean "every" because ever makes no sense.

Hekate

(90,565 posts)
82. I guess 51% of us are just well-meaning idiots wasting our time, then.Not to mention DU's population
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:27 PM
Jul 2020

...that includes a large proportion of white Boomers (oh, the horror) who joined up in droves after Dubya was inaugurated. Also the three founders of DU, who seem to be (gasp) white, though younger by far.

OF COURSE TRUMPERS ARE A PROBLEM. THEY ARE PARTICIPATING IN DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY. WHAT DO YOU AND THE OP THINK WE ARE DOING HERE?

Too subtle? Sorry about that.

Yavin4

(35,423 posts)
62. Mediocre White people believe that they're entitled to dominate the world.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 02:39 PM
Jul 2020

We see it in their support of Trump. We see it when they feel entitled to confront a person of color who appears to be out of place. The White men in GA that killed the African American jogger is a prime example.

Trump is their king. Trump is proof that you can be dumb, stupid, bigoted, uneducated, and still be rich and powerful just because you're White, specifically a White male.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
73. Please post a link as many have asked you.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:06 PM
Jul 2020

Ugly and nasty op that no one would post about any other racial group. You are disgusting, I do not care if my post is hidden. You are are a stupid person who cannot back up your ugly claims. Most of this board is made up of white people. None of whom support the asshat.

We will wait for your proof of “white people” supporting rump.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
81. Once again, tons of responses are centering the comfort of white people
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jul 2020

Every time people talk about racism (and I'll argue white people's support of trump largely equals racism) there are a ton of comments making it all about white people's comfort.

Hekate

(90,565 posts)
84. From my post #82
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:30 PM
Jul 2020

I guess 51% of us are just well-meaning idiots wasting our time, then.Not to mention DU's population

...that includes a large proportion of white Boomers (oh, the horror) who joined up in droves after Dubya was inaugurated. Also the three founders of DU, who seem to be (gasp) white, though younger by far.

OF COURSE TRUMPERS ARE A PROBLEM. THEY ARE PARTICIPATING IN DESTROYING OUR COUNTRY. WHAT DO YOU AND THE OP THINK WE ARE DOING HERE?

Too subtle? Sorry about that.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
87. That has nothing to do with the OP
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:34 PM
Jul 2020

The OP is wondering why a large percentage of white people support trump. #notallwhitepeople isn't much of a help when discussing that question.

demmiblue

(36,824 posts)
83. Lol... nothing wrong with this post.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:30 PM
Jul 2020

The "some white people" is implied with the 49%. It reminds me of the mansplainers who throw a hissy fit when a woman posts something negative about men. But you didn't say "some"...

onecaliberal

(32,788 posts)
94. I have zero fucks left to give.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:44 PM
Jul 2020

The people who want to purposely twist the meaning of my post or imply something I didn’t say are just showing their cards. And frankly we all need to know who they are.

JI7

(89,241 posts)
99. We never seriously dealt with white racism in this country
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jul 2020

white men like Lyndon Johnson and Bill Clinton knew how deep it was.

Beringia

(4,316 posts)
102. Having empathy and knowing a few basics
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:54 PM
Jul 2020

About American history is apparently too much to ask from some people. I have a nephew who said trump would bring this country together. He is 25. I think it has to do with growing up in Alaska. Myself, I think I would have been repulsed by trump at any age from 1 to 60 no matter what state I grew up in

onecaliberal

(32,788 posts)
104. He's always been repulsive. You'd have to live under a rock not to know.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 03:59 PM
Jul 2020

Even if you didn’t know him before he ran, after the pussy grabbing comment there is no longer an excuse.

betsuni

(25,384 posts)
115. We have to go through this "not all white people" thing every time.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:48 PM
Jul 2020

About 40% of Americans say that Ranch is their favorite dressing. Does the sentence "Americans love Ranch dressing" get anyone upset? Do they rush to comment, "Well, I'm American and I don't like Ranch. I make my own dressing!" No, they do not.

What the hell is wrong with white people is a perfectly reasonable question. They came to this continent and by accident or on purpose pretty much wiped out the native populations, then broke every treaty with the remaining people. Cut down the trees, plowed up the prairies, killed the buffalo. Kidnapped Africans and thought that, even though they were Christians, it was perfectly fine to own people. Thought it was fine to give American citizens a few days to dispose of all their property and throw them into internment camps for years. They turned food into tasteless chemical garbage that makes people obese and sick. Turned everything into an advertisement, us into consumers, turned news into entertainment. Turned the Republican Party, formerly the country club party, into a radical religious nutbag party; an insane moron drug addict like Trump is sort of the perfect ending.

It's a bummer, but it's just a generalization. No need to take it personally. I make my own Ranch with yogurt.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
116. I encountered it in Las Vegas 1984
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 06:54 PM
Jul 2020

The sportsbooks loaded with angry bigoted right wing males, primarily from the South.

Consequently nothing has surprised me over the past 35 years. The attitudes and hate were always there, merely underestimated numbers and degree...prior to the internet, cell phones, social media and then Trump

Coventina

(27,064 posts)
126. Wow. A whole lot of white fragility on this thread.
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:49 PM
Jul 2020

Hang in there, onecaliberal, most of us understand your message.

onecaliberal

(32,788 posts)
130. Thank you. Good to know I'm not alone. We have to get passed this shit for the country to
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 11:36 PM
Jul 2020

Move forward. I want everyone to have the same privileges my skin color affords me. It’s really that simple.

Nature Man

(869 posts)
139. The cast of "usual suspects"
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:29 AM
Jul 2020

never disappoints. Almost like the messaging is coordinated.

Not surprised. The more I post here, the less real this place seems, almost as if the Discussionist sewer backed up into the DU water main. "Feels" like there's fewer than 50 people who actually post here and they all have multiple sock/fictitious accounts.

Most of us do understand the OP's message and agree.

jcgoldie

(11,613 posts)
129. If Trump only gets 49% of white people voting he's fucked...
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 10:57 PM
Jul 2020

Because he's going to get decimated in every minority demographic. So I will take this number to the bank tyvm.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
134. All I know is that social media hasn't helped matters.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 03:10 AM
Jul 2020

I'm white, and I used to have a white friend / coworker who often sent me links to attacks of white men by African Americans -- e.g., the "knockout game".

It didn't affect me because I know it's not the norm, and it's possible to demonize just about anyone or anything with a concerted effort. For example, I could post videos of dogs that attack people or only the stories of them mauling people. I have no desire to do that, but the obvious goal of such behavior would be to steer the audience toward a particular narrative that doesn't represent dogs as a whole.

The Russians are probably playing a role in racial strife too.

Edit:
And algorithms of the internet often keep people in extremist bubbles too. A person who searches for attacks on white men will tend to get MORE links to similar stories.

Google obviously knows that I'm very interested in Covid-19 now because I get a lot of stories about it. In the past, it kept sending me stories about quantum mechanics, which I'd searched many times previously.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
138. LBJ was the last Democratic presidential candidate to win a majority of the white vote.
Mon Jul 20, 2020, 10:22 AM
Jul 2020

Clinton came close to winning a plurality in a three person race.

It is what it is.

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