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Deputy Secretary of DHS Ken Cuccinelli tells NPR not only are they not stopping the Portland tactics they're going to take them nationwide.
Wounded Bear
(58,769 posts)Zoonart
(11,897 posts)They need to defund this department pronto!
cp
(6,674 posts)Time to take this seriously. Call your Congress critters. Shine a light on this and defund it pronto.
wnylib
(21,732 posts)Waste of time to call him. Better for me to contact a Dem Housr member nearby in next district.
The House MUST stop this by cutting off funds to DHS until it is resolved.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,113 posts)coti
(4,612 posts)This is illegal in a number of ways.
superpatriotman
(6,254 posts)Yeah. Dont count on them for much help.
MyOwnPeace
(16,951 posts)a social worker would perhaps be better equipped to handle such a situation - this is NATIONAL SECURITY and CONSTITUTIONAL LAW!
"Defund" does NOT eliminate - it directs funds in a more appropriate way.
oasis
(49,464 posts)WyattKansas
(1,648 posts)None of the Secret Federal Force should be allowed to deploy without all necessary paperwork and steps taken. If anything is out of place or any law is violated, arrest everyone involved and refuse bail until they rat out their chain of command and follow up that chain. If locals are involved in illegal activity, then they need to be removed from their jobs immediately by their bosses, which is ultimately the people. Force the stand off and confrontation they want to impose... They are not in a position of being on solid ground with the public, especially when the assholes that put them there are plummeting in the polls and approval ratings.
oasis
(49,464 posts)be allowed to get out of control.
p.s. I made a minor edit of my original post for reasons of clarity.
Skittles
(153,262 posts)seriously
madamesilverspurs
(15,814 posts)dammit.
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Blue_playwright
(1,568 posts)Pretty sure Wichita cops would NOT welcome them. They would likely be pissed.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)I have a feeling they will be a popular commodity before long.
Good grief, what are they thinking? They must be ashamed of what they are doing, or they'd identify themselves. This secrecy shit is beyond anything I would have believed could happen in America, but here we are.
Freethinker65
(10,094 posts)They want white rural areas scared and to believe only Trump can save them from scary urban people. Might work in some places, but not as effective this time around.
And Trump thinks suburban Soccer moms will fall for the same racist nonsense. Not going to happen.
lostnfound
(16,195 posts)America will slide down the drain with barely a whimper.
Quite worried.
Firestorm49
(4,039 posts)orangecrush
(19,661 posts)Freethinker65
(10,094 posts)I just think at this point in time it is all for image and propaganda. If people are able to vote, and have their vote counted, Trump should go down in flames.
Celerity
(43,696 posts)All of this force projection is test-bedding for a shitshow of a power grab utilising quasi-constitutional gamesmanship via hybrid, non-linear warfare and reflexive control. The resultant multi-faceted fog of war will present the opportunity to go for the biggest power play that is deemed possible.
frogmarch
(12,160 posts)be all for it, the dirty effer.
Firestorm49
(4,039 posts)I can only hope that, barring a complete takeover of the country by Trump before November (which I dont doubt is on their minds) that charges can be filed against Barr as well as Trump after what we idealise as a free and fair election.
The framers of our Constitution must be rolling in their graves.
God help us all.
MerryBlooms
(11,776 posts)Time for Portland to have a Naked Athena bicycle protest ride.
Stay strong, Portland! I miss you so much.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)they will create it. 'We the people' have to be smart. Let the white supremacists fight the Gestapo
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SunSeeker
(51,787 posts)sop
(10,285 posts)those "terrorist leftwing gatherings" taking place in cities controlled by Democrats. Didn't Republicans already try this during the Reagan years? They were called "Contras" back then; US-backed and funded right-wing paramilitary groups who committed atrocities in Central America.
Republicans are bringing home all the repressive tactics they once used to control leftist movements in third world countries, and are now targeting Americans. So far they've kidnapped a few people and merely taken them for a ride. I suppose it won't be long before they'll be taking them for one-way rides in helicopters, and disappearing them.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,698 posts)Unless they are going to leave the border checkpoints and every red state federal courthouse unstaffed, they dont have the manpower to simultaneously invade every major city.
Personally, Id like to see them try it in Chicago...
hunter
(38,345 posts)ellie
(6,929 posts)DHS. The House holds the purse strings.
Bayard
(22,209 posts)But wouldn't trump have to sign the bill?
Blue Owl
(50,550 posts)Time to take the gloves off with these motherfucking grifting thugs...
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)I hope we are willing to fight for our lives.
LiberalFighter
(51,277 posts)vapor2
(1,250 posts)Takket
(21,687 posts)they should order the police to treat any unmarked gestapo member as "impersonating an officer" and arrest them.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,698 posts)The invasion in Portland is primarily involving CBP officers from the BORTAC (equivalent of SWAT) team. Wikipedia says CBP has 45,000 sworn agents and officers, of which approx. 21,000 are officers. Of those 21,000, Only 220 CBP officers are currently Active on the BORTAC team.
The other federal service being used in the Portland invasion is the US Marshalls Special Operations Group. The US Marshalls has approx. 4,000 sworn deputies, of which only a small portion are SOG trained.
Portland is a city of 650,000, and Im guessing there are maybe a couple dozen federal agents wreaking havoc in this invasion. This quote is attributed to Ken Cuccinelli, a long time GOP operative. I believe he was one of The RWNJs pushing the illegal immigrant voting fraud nonsense after Trump lost the popular vote.
They can try to take this nationwide, and while they may succeed in terrorizing some communities, with limited resources and growing outcry, its bound to fail. The more cities they try to invade, the more Trumps poll numbers will drop.
Like I said in another post, Id like to see them try to invade and control the streets of Chicago, or L.A., or Detroit, or Atlanta...
ancianita
(36,207 posts)Watch what black gangs with guns do.
FloridaBlues
(4,013 posts)Oregon Gov went on tv to ask them not to be there but no difference. They are still there.
Seriously who can stop them from being at any city?
WVreaper
(623 posts)The head of Stalin's secret police, the NKVD, was executed when Nikita Khrushchev came to power. Ken Cuccinelli, please remember that.
Ilsa
(61,710 posts)to Atlanta to harass Keisha Lance Bottoms, and bolster Kemp who will welcome them.
What amazes me is that people on social media believe that it is the protestors doing damage vs the provocateurs.
bucolic_frolic
(43,456 posts)You know, they seem to have no problem with that tactic against our own troops
johnthewoodworker
(694 posts)When the shit hits the fan in the next 6 months I don't think calls to our congressmen, or signing an online petition is going to carry much weight. Very hard times are ahead of us.
warmfeet
(3,321 posts)If this is what needs to happen, let it happen. I am ready. I fear Covid-19 far more than boogielose. I may even help them to find their lost boogie.
Gilbert Moore
(218 posts)[link:https://www.balloon-juice.com/2020/07/17/the-federal-police-operations-will-not-stay-in-portland/|
Wise words to look upon here.
P.S. Randy SF, I lurked for years, but your work and dedication to this site made me come aboard.
niyad
(113,786 posts)BadgerMom
(2,771 posts)A fellow Santa Fean on Twitter noticed federal agents and their unmarked vehicles outside the Post Office and Federal Courthouse yesterday. She said she asked why they were there and got a non-answer. She called Gov. Grishams office and got crickets. New Mexico is a blue state. I wonder whats up in Sacramento, Albany, Springfield, etc.
triron
(22,029 posts)And also Senators Heinrich and Udall.
Send this to Rachel.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)...gotta make them start scuttling about.
bucolic_frolic
(43,456 posts)That should concern even Trumpers. There is no end to this policy once it gets established.
WVreaper
(623 posts)dhill926
(16,381 posts)they are WAY overstepping here....
LudwigPastorius
(9,240 posts)security agency would eventually live up to its proto-fascist name?
cynical_idealist
(362 posts)on it
vapor2
(1,250 posts)He will do anything and everything to change the narrative and at any expense. Dems need to fight fire with fire
Initech
(100,131 posts)Elected and continues to support the most tyrannical administrations in American history.
TryLogic
(1,723 posts)Trump and other fascists (and Putin) want civil war. I think they might just get it.