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(85,996 posts)
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 09:38 AM Jul 2020

Retired three-star general: "This secret police bullshit"

Russel L. Honore' @ltgrusselhonore
Make a note, We need to forbid police and federal agents from using military uniforms . The camo uniforms are meant to blend into terrain, the want to be warriors should be in police uniforms with names and badge numbers, this secret police bullshit is misuse of @DHSgov


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Retired three-star general: "This secret police bullshit" (Original Post) bigtree Jul 2020 OP
What I said in another post. Camo-wear was a fashion fail. Baitball Blogger Jul 2020 #1
I like the camo for Space Force Liberal In Texas Jul 2020 #9
. Baitball Blogger Jul 2020 #13
If it even really exists at all.... paleotn Jul 2020 #29
Camo keithbvadu2 Jul 2020 #30
Camo in an urban setting only makes one stand out. haele Jul 2020 #49
These guys from trumps military school? pwb Jul 2020 #2
Donny got his for keeping his room clean Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2020 #39
Preach it General Honore. Boomerproud Jul 2020 #3
They can f they are allowed to soldierant Jul 2020 #53
It is the uniform of the modern day Brownshirts Chainfire Jul 2020 #4
And that's what they're pushing for. ...nt 2naSalit Jul 2020 #12
Shooting back? I dunno. RVN VET71 Jul 2020 #43
Russel L. Honore is absolutely right. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2020 #5
+10000000 Pachamama Jul 2020 #60
Psychologically, it signals that you are at war with citizens. Its outrageous. tulipsandroses Jul 2020 #6
Maybe they should wear brown shirts since that is befitting? Newest Reality Jul 2020 #7
Strip them of funding SallyHemmings Jul 2020 #8
1000 👍😃 Tribetime Jul 2020 #11
In case you missed it, Trump and Co don't give a shit what Congress says mdbl Jul 2020 #58
Someone should tell them " I was just following orders" didn't work then, not going to work today uponit7771 Jul 2020 #10
Exactly! Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #14
MSNBC and CNN suck mcambush Jul 2020 #15
Why shit on them. They are/have been reporting it all morning. MuchBetterThanThis Jul 2020 #23
Exactly! SlogginThroughIt Jul 2020 #37
we most definitely have our media haters! (nt) stopdiggin Jul 2020 #44
They've been in Portland since about July 5, and this Hortensis Jul 2020 #27
They seem to be covering the story just fine. lunatica Jul 2020 #38
Good for Honere musclecar6 Jul 2020 #16
well, I think that NJCher Jul 2020 #35
You Geaux, General Honore'! n/t blitzen Jul 2020 #17
Does it even need to be pointed out? Dukkha Jul 2020 #18
From their perspective, the people wnylib Jul 2020 #25
And, any Alt-Right CoD LARPer can abduct people obamanut2012 Jul 2020 #19
So they brought back the Gestapo IronLionZion Jul 2020 #20
Trump's Brownshirts PubliusEnigma Jul 2020 #21
Who Are These People DallasNE Jul 2020 #22
NPR reported yesterday from an interview with Ken Cucinelli that the federal summer_in_TX Jul 2020 #59
In all that, they're giving me shades of the SF movie AleksS Jul 2020 #24
You are so right Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #56
Not to mention that they look like an undisciplined gaggle Victor_c3 Jul 2020 #26
+1, uponit7771 Jul 2020 #33
Retired 3-Star General Honore translation: ancianita Jul 2020 #28
Fascist stormtroopers paleotn Jul 2020 #31
Who'll stop trump from violating our constitutional rights? duforsure Jul 2020 #32
They look more like military troops than police officers. love_katz Jul 2020 #34
I like the part about the "want-to-be" warriors. Especially coming from a real soldier. EarnestPutz Jul 2020 #36
Just another pile of right wing cowards. You will NEVER see one by themselves, always in packs . Augiedog Jul 2020 #40
Perhaps the protesters should also dress up in military clothes MagickMuffin Jul 2020 #41
sounds like preparations for war bigtree Jul 2020 #42
Kick Hekate Jul 2020 #45
This is some bullsh*t right here VA_Jill Jul 2020 #46
It does stink of Blackwater burrowowl Jul 2020 #47
bingo!! Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #57
Did Gen. Milley start this fashion fail? UpInArms Jul 2020 #48
Shut these fuckers down with all due speed, forthwith! Pepsidog Jul 2020 #50
Rt! Cha Jul 2020 #51
Again, local police, swat teams, and armored vehicles need to surround the fake force... WyattKansas Jul 2020 #52
Where are all the Jade Helm alarmists now? GETPLANING Jul 2020 #54
OrangeAnus is getting off on this bullshit. Ferrets are Cool Jul 2020 #55
eric prince xxqqqzme Jul 2020 #61

Liberal In Texas

(13,552 posts)
9. I like the camo for Space Force
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:10 AM
Jul 2020

Lunar camo ROFL

(the TV series, not the military branch that'll be disbanded in a year or so.)

haele

(12,652 posts)
49. Camo in an urban setting only makes one stand out.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 04:02 PM
Jul 2020

In terms of OPSEC it's better to look like the forces around them if they want to "blend in"; seriously - wearing camo in the city just shouts "hey, we don't really belong here, and we know we really look stupid - but we don't care 'caus this color pattern means y'all got to respect our autho-ritie..."
They're an occupying force, out of their jurisdiction. And wearing camo is just another bit of proof.

Haele


pwb

(11,261 posts)
2. These guys from trumps military school?
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 09:44 AM
Jul 2020

They were all decorated for fire guard duty.. So out of place?

Chainfire

(17,536 posts)
4. It is the uniform of the modern day Brownshirts
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 09:45 AM
Jul 2020

When the Federal Government starts making war on the people, it is time for a change. It is only a matter of time before people start shooting back at these goons.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
43. Shooting back? I dunno.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 01:22 PM
Jul 2020

The idea, as I see it, is to bully and shoot at and torture people very unlikely to own guns. Something like pushing an ice-cream cone in the face of an amish farmer. The camo-dressed goons sent by Trump are pretty certain there's no Harrison Ford to react a-la "Witness."

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
60. +10000000
Sun Jul 19, 2020, 05:45 AM
Jul 2020

Goes against everything

There needs to be a wave of outrage from the military- at least all retired

tulipsandroses

(5,124 posts)
6. Psychologically, it signals that you are at war with citizens. Its outrageous.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 09:47 AM
Jul 2020

If this is the idea of what policing looks like - Of course you will attract the very people that people are protesting against. Bullies and oppressors. People that want to fight. Not people interested in protecting the community. Protecting the community means exactly that - even if you have to arrest someone - protecting them at the same time you do that.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
58. In case you missed it, Trump and Co don't give a shit what Congress says
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:08 PM
Jul 2020

and the asshole republicans in the senate gave him a pass to do whatever he wants.

mcambush

(6 posts)
15. MSNBC and CNN suck
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:40 AM
Jul 2020

Why isn't this top story on News? Remember Lewis of course but this is a huge story! Oh, and could they follow up on Russian bounty story also.

23. Why shit on them. They are/have been reporting it all morning.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:53 AM
Jul 2020

John Lewis is bigger at the MOMENT. So lets get on their case when they STOP reporting it.
Last thing we need is the "left" also trashing the media

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
27. They've been in Portland since about July 5, and this
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:08 AM
Jul 2020

started being covered in local and national news media before that when Trump first threatened to do this. Often the earliest and most thorough coverage of eventually big stories is local, for obvious reasons. As it was here.

MSNBC and CNN are NOT news networks. They're political entertainment/discussion networks. They did report and discuss Trump's threats, and they did mention that federal agents were sent, and they then waited for the trouble wannabe-strongman Trump intended to cause blew up into something emotion-provoking enough for viewers to want to listen to discussions. Which it did this weekend as the feds became more aggressive.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
38. They seem to be covering the story just fine.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 12:23 PM
Jul 2020

You can’t turn MSNBC on without tripping over this story. It’s a good idea to watch if you want the latest.

musclecar6

(1,686 posts)
16. Good for Honere
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:43 AM
Jul 2020


Trump never stops pushing that ball over the goal line which for him is to become a totalitarian dictator. Thanks to the Republican congress and other adoring sycophants and his base he is moving relentlessly to get there including getting re-elected and if he does look out.

NJCher

(35,667 posts)
35. well, I think that
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:47 AM
Jul 2020

considering the outstanding work he's done on light bulbs, we should disregard the camo "brownshirts."

Dukkha

(7,341 posts)
18. Does it even need to be pointed out?
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:45 AM
Jul 2020

For as long as I have been alive the pro 2A gun nuts have screamed to high heavens that they arm themselves to prevent armed government tyranny and secret police.

It is happening now in real time and absolute DEAFENING crickets of silence from the right wing gun toting self-appointed freedom fighter militias.

wnylib

(21,449 posts)
25. From their perspective, the people
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:03 AM
Jul 2020

being arrested by secret police are criminals and commies who want to overthrow capitalism in favor of "left wing fascism." (Trump actually called it that.)

So no intervention needed, except maybe to help the secret police.

IronLionZion

(45,439 posts)
20. So they brought back the Gestapo
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:47 AM
Jul 2020

to make America great again, just like Germany was made great again in the 1930s

DallasNE

(7,403 posts)
22. Who Are These People
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:50 AM
Jul 2020

Are they possibly troops employed by Eric Prince? Trump likes to use private forces for his goon squads so this would fit.

summer_in_TX

(2,738 posts)
59. NPR reported yesterday from an interview with Ken Cucinelli that the federal
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:33 PM
Jul 2020

buildings are being protected by Federal Protective Services, who are being supported by both CBP and ICE officers.

He said "a much unknown agency, the Federal Protective Service, is responsible for protecting thousands around the country. That is an agency within the Department of Homeland Security. And the CBP agents that you saw backing them up are doing just that. They are there cross designated to support FPS, not the other way around."

AleksS

(1,665 posts)
24. In all that, they're giving me shades of the SF movie
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 10:55 AM
Jul 2020

Brazil.

The squad that went out and rounded up political prisoners was fully obscured—face covering masks, etc. just like these guys.

Wouldn’t be surprised If they get trucks they can hang bagged prisoners off of next.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
26. Not to mention that they look like an undisciplined gaggle
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:07 AM
Jul 2020

Some with their sleeves rolled up, some not even with a hand on their rifle, some wearing sneakers,...

ancianita

(36,054 posts)
28. Retired 3-Star General Honore translation:
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:11 AM
Jul 2020

if we keep kicking this privatized militarization of the Executive branch, there may be no civilian command, just a corporate military junta led by a Russian puppet.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
31. Fascist stormtroopers
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:22 AM
Jul 2020

But they really need to work on those uniforms. Authenticity is important. Might I suggest....





If they want to be Nazis, we'll call them exactly what they are. Fucking Nazis. And in a country full of guns, they keep this shit up, one of them is bound to get popped.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
32. Who'll stop trump from violating our constitutional rights?
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:25 AM
Jul 2020

If they don't rush this to the courts for judges to rule on ASAP, or this will just get worse , and very quickly. trump will take advantage of the ability to stall all legal proceeding unless they act quickly.

love_katz

(2,579 posts)
34. They look more like military troops than police officers.
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 11:46 AM
Jul 2020

No visible I.D., faces masked. This looks more like a military coup than local and county police. I have read that these troops are agents from the Border Patrol, Homeland security, and U.S. Marshalls. Not accountable to local authorities and not coordinating with local law enforcement.Agolf Twitler fancies himself as a war president, and wants to bolster his falling poll numbers by starting a war on American soil, against American citizens. This whole situation is extremely dangerous. I further think that Twitler is hoping to inflame the situation so he can use it as an excuse to declare martial law, and then spread these tactics to any other city that has protests going on. He continues to spray more gasoline on the fires.

Augiedog

(2,546 posts)
40. Just another pile of right wing cowards. You will NEVER see one by themselves, always in packs .
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jul 2020

Classic cowards

MagickMuffin

(15,938 posts)
41. Perhaps the protesters should also dress up in military clothes
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 12:38 PM
Jul 2020

Civilians can buy them as well. Just dress up like them and look so badass.

Then no one would be kidnapped and detained.

VA_Jill

(9,966 posts)
46. This is some bullsh*t right here
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 02:03 PM
Jul 2020

When asked about calls for an investigation into DHS police tactics in Portland, Oregon, Acting Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security Ken Cuccinelli tells NPR not only are they not going to stop but they want to take the tactics nationwide.

Well, we are – we welcome – the more investigations, the better. With as much lawbreaking is going on, we’re seeking to prosecute as many people as are breaking the law as it relates to federal jurisdiction. That’s not always happening with respect to local jurisdiction and local offenses. But, you know, this is a posture we intend to continue not just in Portland but in any of the facilities that we’re responsible for around the country...

Sounds to me like the Cooch is trying to start an all-out civil war. Who was it said, "If they must have a war, let it begin here"?

And BTW, this absolutely REEKS of Blackwater. I don't care what Erik, Prince of Darkness, calls it now. It will always be Blackwater, and it will always stink.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
52. Again, local police, swat teams, and armored vehicles need to surround the fake force...
Sat Jul 18, 2020, 05:38 PM
Jul 2020

And arrest them for following illegal orders issued to them and follow up the chain of their command. Force the Constitutional crisis they are invoking to shut them down, otherwise they will grow stronger and threaten more.

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