Am I the only one who thinks that Mary Trump is a train wreck?

[Baltimike]

disjointed...sentences very parsed and not in a good way.

I wanted this to be much much better.

Oh, but Rachel is amazing as always.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

12. Was she supposed to be? Most people aren't, especially if they are not used to being

interviewed on national tv. Her book is, though.

[milestogo]

44. No, I guess not.

I am just all trumped out.

[still_one]

48. +++

[Hortensis]

109. Exactly. How many of us are professional talking heads? nt

[Mike 03]

117. Thank you for this comment

[StarfishSaver]

92. Why would you expect her to be?

[JI7]

100. Why did you expect or want her to be mesmerizing ? that's just weird

[redstatebluegirl]

103. There are a lit of people who need to be mesmerized.

Like the ones who say Joe Biden doesn't "excite them".

[Mike 03]

119. It is weird, isn't it?

Give me a sincere person with something worth saying who isn't used to the limelight over a polished vacuity any day.

[Aristus]

125. Like Jimmy Carter over Ronald Reagan.

We lose so much by going for the Hollywood glitz...

[Baltimike]

178. I never said mesmerizing...YOU did...but she did know she

was going to be on tv, so...see post #77

[panader0]

113. Franz Mesmer: The "Father of hypnotism"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franz_Mesmer

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

2. Well in her defense... SHE IS A TRUMP! n/t

[Ahpook]

5. Yup

Damaged!

On edit: Its a damaged family that spawned that thing that currently resides in the WH.

She is doing ok

[Baltimike]

15. This. You're absolutely right

and I am not trying to flame...just trying to vent.

That's the right perspective though Thanks

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

4. Probably. I don't see anything wrong with the way she is speaking.

She's not someone who's used to this kind of limelight, so there's no reason to expect her to be as smooth as Rachel or anyone else who's regularly on TV. She's an academic, and that's how she comes across. She seems very honest and credible.

[moondust]

8. +1

[Ahpook]

25. Well put

[Takket]

40. +1. i'm a million times smarter than drumpf (who isn't)

but i'm also introverted and shy, and would probably by nervous to the point of throwing up if i was going to be on a national tv show. she's just out of her element most likely.

[StarfishSaver]

93. Thank you

I wonder what people are expecting?

And I wonder how "mesmerizing" they would be when doing their first television interviews.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

98. I know I would be either an incoherently-babbling mess,

or the proverbial deer in the headlights, able to answer only in monosyllables. In a previous professional life I did a number of oral arguments and a few trials without freaking out, but knowing I was on national tv talking to the likes of Rachel Maddow would probably make me wet my pants and/or throw up.

[PatSeg]

95. I don't either

She's obviously a little uncomfortable and nervous being on national TV, most people would be, but I thought she was fine. I just finished reading her book and she is an impressive writer.

Also, I'm sure she knows that members of her family are watching her on television, which would undoubtedly make her more nervous.

[triron]

116. Same here. Actually I found her to be quite reflective in the way she spoke.

[mucifer]

6. I'm enjoying the interview. But, I don't have cable tv so I can only get audio from tunein

It might be different to see it

[canetoad]

10. Try this

https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html

[mucifer]

13. thanks but I'm not sure that's a legal thing

[Celerity]

53. this service has been up for since long before Rump was POTUS

https://streamfare.com/msnbc.html

[canetoad]

7. I don't

It seems like her natural manner to be reserved. I guess her job makes her more accustomed to listening. And she's not a TV presenter.

[Laelth]

9. She's afraid.

She’s publicly attacking the most powerful person in the world, and she knows he’s a vindictive psychopath.

My instinct is to cut her some slack.

-Laelth

[Baltimike]

17. Indeed. I will. Thanks nt

[Laelth]

28. .

-Laelth

[JohnnyLib2]

19. I agree.

Anything she says will probably be distorted to use against her. That's an intimidating spot to be in.

[misanthrope]

32. Early in the interview, I saw her cut her eyes

to her right as if she was watching/listening to someone. It wouldn't be surprising if she has counsel present and has been told to not get too far out over her skies.

[Laelth]

38. If I were she, I would definitely have counsel present.

Probably a bodyguard too.

-Laelth

[Baltimike]

77. Oh wow. I hadn't even considered that...and must admit

I didn't watch all of it. She was too disjointed for me, but that would certainly be a good explanation why.

When she spoke in her pocket, the psychology, she was pretty great, but other times...she seemed to be over parsing her words.

That makes sense if she had counsel communicating to her

[canetoad]

87. Maybe

You are not used to a Trump who thinks through her sentences before she opens her mouth, then can finish what she's saying without rambling off-topic.

[backscatter712]

156. She seems to be one of the few in that family that came out as a normal human being.

Of course they disowned her for that.

[Baltimike]

161. I hope she sues because of the inheritance fraud

and I hope she wins

[Bettie]

169. It isn't just Trumps

severely dysfunctional families can make people agonize over every word, trying to find the best way to say something.

Growing up, my mother (later diagnosed with bipolar and more) was a very angry person. So, I learned to be VERY careful in how I phrased things. Oh and to avoid her if at all possible. I still do both, because the difference between "Oh, Hi how are you?" and "You ruined my life you bitch." can be literally one word.

[FakeNoose]

83. Yes she's definitely getting advice from lawyers

... in real time ... while the interview is streaming. Don't kid yourself, Chump is looking for ways to sue her even while this is coming out over the airwaves. Chump will never give up.

Mary Trump is scared as shit and I'm cutting her every break I can.

[Baltimike]

179. This is spot on...and makes the whole thing make much more sense.

I wasn't trying to flame a thing, I really wasn't

[salin]

88. I see/hear this the same way.

[lastlib]

187. Given what she has done to Cockwomble with her book/tv......

I would eat her polonium sammich from Vlad Cafe....!

Yeah, she was nervous, tentative, etc.--but with her sincerity and courage, she cut Shitbag a hole big enough to drive a tank through. And I love her for it!

[Laelth]

189. I admire her, to be sure.

She would be a fool, however, if she wasn’t a little afraid.

-Laelth

[lastlib]

190. Absolutely! the tRumpers and Putinistas aren't going to play patty-cake with her....

They'll be playing with BIG marbles that go "boom."

[Boxerfan]

11. Good gawd no!

She's telling a very important story & doing it well.
not sure what the OP is ref to?.

[a kennedy]

61. Me either, I think she's doing a very credible job.....slow, concise, and heartfelt

in her answers.

[Baitball Blogger]

112. +1

[grantcart]

174. I am agreeing with the substance of your remark so shouldn't

you be answering "Yes" he is the only one?

[Bettie]

14. She's an academic, not a performer

and she's probably not used to being in the spotlight.

I see nothing wrong with her lack of "showmanship".

[Zoonart]

30. Absolutely this.

We have been conditioned to think that everyone that does an interview is a 'talking head" and at home in front of the camera.

I think that perhaps she may be an introvert by nature. I have a couple of close friends that she reminds me of in mannerism and speech pattern.

[Lisa0825]

59. THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

[betsuni]

105. Yes, experts in their fields are not entertainers.

[rusty quoin]

16. I think it's a good interview.

[still_one]

50. +++

[tavernier]

18. I find her very intelligent

and brave. That family is a snake pit.

[El Supremo]

22. Far more than he uncle.

Who only has a limited vocabulary.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

26. I agree. It took a lot of guts to publish that book.

There's no end to Trump's vengefulness, and I'm sure he'll do everything he can to discredit her. I expect he'll sue her for libel by the end of the week. Fortunately she now has a shit-ton of money with which to defend herself, unlike many of the other people he's sued.

[customerserviceguy]

20. She's just looking

to make up financially for what she feels cheated out of by the rest of the grifter family. A few months before the election is the right time to sell a book.

If she was a really functioning human being, she would have changed her name and moved far, far away from them.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

51. Have you been watching? She explained exactly why

she decided to write the book, and when. She wouldn't have done it at all if it hadn't been for the New York Times investigation of Trump's finances, for which she supplied some financial records that she had no idea what they contained, because she didn't think anyone would believe her. She doesn't seem to have a financial motive at all.

[customerserviceguy]

66. Heard it

I don't believe it. She's part of the spawn of Fred Trump. I refuse to believe she's the "Marilyn" of that Munster family.

[Lucinda]

104. The Munsters were good souls. As was Marilyn. n/t

[customerserviceguy]

132. I admit

it's a poor analogy, but I would think that most here would get my drift.

[SharonClark]

54. She is likely more of a "functioning human being"

than many on DU. She’s doing fine.

[Tipperary]

124. I am gonna guess that it is men here who are not liking her.

For the usual reasons. I thought she did fine.

[nolabear]

63. Oh do tell how you're assessing her as not "fully functional"

I’ll wait over here.

[customerserviceguy]

67. She's a Trump

Raised with greed and avarice as her guiding stars.

If she's such a great person, how come we never heard a peep out of her until this year?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

74. Actually she was not raised with the rest of them.

Her father was the son that didn't fit in and who was constantly abused. Her family did not have money once her father went off on his own to become a pilot, and she was a witness to the abusive and crazy behavior of her grandfather but was not under his thumb like the others. She explained why she didn't write the book until now, which is because she did not expect anyone to believe her, at least until the NYT story came out. It took guts to write that book because Trump and his followers will do what they can to harass her and make her life miserable.

Yes, she's a Trump, but the world is full of people who didn't turn out to be anything like their shitty parents.

But you do you. I think what she's done is admirable.

[nolabear]

96. I was raised in an extended Southern family of racists and scary cops.

Some of whom I love. I admit to unconscious racism that I try to think about and I act as an ally in situations involving race when I can. Trust me or not; for complex reasons I am considerably different from my family. I believe she does not regret making money but I believe her motives are out of the same fear 45 instills in us all, and she can do something about it.

[Baltimike]

85. I think that goes a bit too far.

I don't think she was inauthentic, just disjointed in a way that I found kind of hard to follow at times.

Lots of great explanations here why, but I am not afraid to speak my mind and there was a LOT of dead air space and some really long (seemed unnecessary) pauses.

I hope she sues them for lying about her inheritance

[StarfishSaver]

97. Wow

Are you on the right website?

[cwydro]

111. I might not agree with his comments, but this should never be an echo chamber.

Some here seem to hate anyone who doesn't go with the current narrative.

It's a DISCUSSION boars. People should speak as they want.

[customerserviceguy]

131. Thank you

Diversity of opinion seems to be less favored around here lately than it used to be.

If somebody had unearthed an Obama family member during his administration that was telling tales, true journalists would be examining the person's motives with a fine toothed comb. I feel that this broken individual is taking advantage of the possibility that the mainstream media is not likely to be as skeptical about someone seen as a burr under Trump's saddle.

[obamanut2012]

118. typical

[betsuni]

123. Obviously not.

[Turbineguy]

21. She's not a skilled

bullshit artist like her POS uncle.

[elleng]

23. Yes, you are alone on that one,

she's articulate and credible.

See her interview with G. Stephanopolous.

[wcmagumba]

24. Not at all...

seems quite natural and credible to me...

[grantcart]

175. So "Yes" Ok is the only one?

[wcmagumba]

184. For me...

I have watched several of her interviews now and do not see her as a "train wreck" but other than being a little nervous in that first interview found her to sound intelligent and her answers informative and interesting.

[Baltimike]

185. I would completely agree...she got better as they went on

but the beginning of that first one? I'm just saying. (I wasn't trying to flame anything either)

[grantcart]

186. I agree but the OP said "am I the only one who thinks MT is a train wreck.

So isn't your intent to say that yes he is the only one that thinks she is a train wreck,?

[wcmagumba]

188. Sorry, I wasn't clear, I posted in a hurry...

and had just found out my neighbor tested positive for c-19...

[grantcart]

192. Sorry about your neighbor

It was the OP that wasn't clear, I understood your intent.

[babylonsister]

27. I think she's great, as is Rachel, and looks really tired.

I need to read that book!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

36. I read it as soon as it appeared in my Kindle the other night,

and it was kind of hair-raising.

[babylonsister]

52. Listening to her tonight, my hair is raised.

[unitedwethrive]

29. She sounds very credible, I like that she is not polished...

much more 'real' than most of the politicians and talking heads we are used to seeing talk about Trump. Her pauses come across as thinking about being precise and accurate, which is very important.

[Fiendish Thingy]

31. She's an intelligent, cautious woman

I’m sure she has been coached by her lawyers.

She is confirming all the stories in her book, what else were you expecting?

She’s an intellectual, apparently not an impressive speaker.

[RockCreek]

33. She's not used to this format

A regular interview in person would be hard enough, but add in the virtual. There are time pauses, difficulty with kniwing how to look at either Rachel or the camera, etc.

[Jarqui]

34. I watched the entire ABC interview

and all of Maddow so far. (as of 9:46pm)

I find her quite credible

[flibbitygiblets]

35. I think she's doing well. It was obvious how nervous she was at the beginning

I could see her taking deep breaths, clearly trying to calm herself. She nods a lot when Rachel speaks, and occasionally gives a nervous laugh when Rachel says something quasi-funny. However, she certainly appears to be well-educated and has an extensive vocabulary.

Side note, the family resemblance is very strong. That might tend to bias a lot of people against her. (I didn't notice it in the book bio pic, but in person it's quite noticeable.) It creates a kind of cognitive dissonance to see someone who looks so much like Donald but can speak intelligently and isn't arrogant, self-important or vindictive.

[LiberalFighter]

37. I don't have that feeling about her.

She is not a shyster like her uncle.

She doesn't wander from topic to topic or speak in incomplete sentences like her uncle.

[Enoki33]

39. Think her nervousness relates well to the average person and makes

her more believable. She solidifies all of the ugliness that has been playing out on tv screens across the country that COVID-19 has personalized by his gross incompetence.

[RainCaster]

41. I work with many intelligent people who fear crowds

And the Rachel show is really big time.

She has written very well, give her credit for that.

[ariadne0614]

42. I agree with everyone who disagrees with the OP. n/t

[chowder66]

43. She is thoughtful. She thinks before she speaks and speaks carefully.

I see no problem with her interview.

[oswaldactedalone]

45. She's getting better as the interview is progressing

Ending strong.

[a kennedy]

49. I think Rachel is giving her the freedom to say what she wants to say......

[a kennedy]

46. She wrote this book to warn us that her uncle is a social misfit AND IF HE GETS ELECTED AGAIN

WE’RE DEAD AS A COUNTRY.

[Demonaut]

47. it gets better

[Baltimike]

82. It did. nt

[highplainsdem]

55. Bradkey Moss finds her more impressive because she isn't polished, is clearly uneasy.

Link to tweet

And in case you're not familiar with who Bradley Moss is:

https://markzaid.com/moss/

https://www.politico.com/states/contributor/bradley-p-moss




I'd say he's likely to be a good judge of how credible she is in this interview.

[Baltimike]

73. Uneasy. YES!!! Perfect, in fact. nt

[sop]

56. She's intelligent, honest, concise, straightforward and informative.

[oasis]

57. She's measured and cautious, but there is no lack of substance in

her presentation.

[texasfiddler]

58. NO!

Please don’t take this wrong, but the fact that you need a polished speaker is odd! I would think our society is more interested in truth than a polished con artist. Your concern is odd in my view.

[Lisa0825]

62. Odd, indeed. OP's concern is duly noted. nt

[Baltimike]

79. YAAAAAWN

[nolabear]

60. What? She was lucid, calm, detailed, what did you want?

She’s not a drama queen. Maybe people have gotten too fond of drama queens.

[a kennedy]

64. and she's NOT SEEKING THE SPOTLIGHT, this book is her account of the piece of shit

she lived with and knew her whole life and she’s telling the country, DO NOT ELECT THIS ORANGE PIECE OF SHIT AGAIN. (JMHO)

[davekriss]

65. Absolutely disagree about Mary Trump

She obviously was nervous at the start. But thereafter I found her to be bright and very articulate.

[Celerity]

68. the opposite, I think she is extraordinarily credible

[Srkdqltr]

69. I think we are so used to people who talk so fast they fall over their words .

It was nice to hear someone who spoke clearly and was understandable.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

80. We are also used to people who are slick and practiced and used to the limelight,

and now we expect that level of slickness from everyone, even though most ordinary people who haven't been soaked in that celebrity culture are more likely to behave like deer in the headlights when plopped down in front of a tv camera.

[catrose]

94. Exactly. Remember how Robert Mueller's TV presence was criticized, not his testimony and evidence?

[Music Man]

70. I didn't see it that way at all.

In fact, a lot of people here are saying she seemed nervous, especially in the beginning, and I didn't even see that. She came across to me as a plain, non-media figure. Very genuine.

[Lisa0825]

89. Exactly. I am terrified by the thought of how I would come across, as a non-media person. nt

[Tribetime]

71. I disagree with you. I like the interview

[Awsi Dooger]

72. Other than a few overly brief responses I thought she was great

And she was best on the most important topics.

Rachel was clearly frustrated at a few of the incomplete answers early. That led to some very long questions seemingly designed to get Mary to open up. Once Mary relaxed and offered multifaceted answers the interview really picked up.

[yonder]

75. Nope. Not at all. And I had an advantage of only being able to listen to her with no visual clues.

I think she was articulate, careful (as she should be) with a considered and measured stride. Not only that but IMO, she writes well too. She came off like I would expect from the excerpts that I have read.

In any case, it would be tough enough coming out of that family as a healthy person, and I believe she succeeded.

[PSPS]

76. LOL. Thanks for your "concern!"

[Baltimike]

81. YAAAAAAAWN

[dalton99a]

78. I find her authentic.

[Cousin Dupree]

84. Not a train wreck at all. I don't get how you think that

[SKKY]

86. She seems scared, and not entirely prepared for the media onslaught that her book...

...has launched in her direction.

[StarfishSaver]

90. Are you talking about the Mary Trump who just published a book about her uncle?

Because I saw that Mary Trump on Rachel Maddow and was very impressed with her. She was very articulate, calm, rational and thoughtful. She wasn't at all "disjointed" and wasn't anything close to being " a "train wreck."

[ecstatic]

91. Wow. Really?

Were it not for trump's destruction of the world, I'm sure she would have been content to stay in obscurity. She's doing her duty to report what she knows. Not everyone is going to be camera ready and perfectly marketable for the masses.

[MFGsunny]

99. To answer your question about train wreck ...

Count me in on the totally OPPOSITE side of thinking Mary Trump is a train wreck.

In fact, let me offer her a few well-deserved hat tips ....

[ChubbyStar]

101. Train Wreck? Strong opinion there

I will be forthright in saying I have never liked you, I think my initial assessment is correct.

[Kingofalldems]

114. The train wreck is her uncle.

[ChubbyStar]

135. Hope you are well

Nice to see you King.

[Kingofalldems]

137. Same here. Doing great.

[dlk]

102. Mary Trump is just fine

She looks and acts like a normal, everyday person. She had to have been a little nervous, with the whole world watching and the requisite threats coming from her uncle and his enablers. Cut her some slack. Women are judged too much as it is.

[GeorgeGist]

106. Your idea of a train wreck ...

Is not good.

[betsuni]

107. ...

No.

[Sunsky]

108. I think she was quite eloquent

I wish they had more than an hour. I was literally sipping tea while listening to this family drama.
With her Ph.D. in psychology, Mary is the perfect family member to dissect the dynamics of this family. The daddy complex that she described has been passed through generations and we are now seeing similar manifestations in 45's children. I almost feel empathy towards them.
Her explanation for why she wrote the book now as opposed to pre-2016 election is also perfectly stated. We (the country) now have the lived-experience with 45 to grasp the contents of her lived experience as a Trump family member. The book is perfectly timed.

[Mr. Ected]

110. Not moved by this OP

I was, however, moved by Mary Trump.

I sensed a lifetime of pain in her eyes. She has more courage than 100 men and women. She speaks eloquently and forcefully. This could not have been easy for her.

[obamanut2012]

115. Yes

She is the opposite of a trainwreck.

Sorry if she isn't "Kardashian" enough for you.

[ornotna]

120. This didn't turn out like you hoped

She seems fine to me.

[MineralMan]

121. I'm reading the book now.

She is not a train wreck. She is very articulate and clear about the Trump family and Donald J. Trump in particular.

You are incorrect. Read the book!

[kentuck]

122. There's Something About Mary ?

She said she turned over 40,000 pages of documents to "someone", and maybe SDNY has possession of them?

But the story from the interview seemed to be that Trump had used the "n" word and anti-Semitic epithets? Is that something everyone did not already know or believe? He's a racist. What did we expect?

[BannonsLiver]

126. Da.

[GusBob]

127. This is an example of the problem with modern American culture

Here we are now, entertain us

We dont want information we expect a show

It comes from being raised on television

[betsuni]

128. +1

[pwb]

129. You might be?

.

[anamnua]

130. It is *what* you say that counts. Not the way you say it. NT.

[CatWoman]

133. actually, I was more than disgusted when this thread was posted

and I'm still surprised it's still alive and kicking.

this is nothing but pure bullshit. the entire thread.

i'll do the next best thing and hide it.

[Towlie]

134. Over 130 replies and no recs, so it looks like the answer is "yes", you're the only one.

[Baltimike]

139. and yet, you didn't read the nearly 130 responses or you would have seen posts #15, 17, 73

77, and 82.

PS. This. is. a. DISCUSSION. board.

That interview got better as it went on, and I gained a lot of insight by me speaking my mind.

[rufus dog]

136. Let me figure out a nice way to put this

First there is this

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213768244

Then I will come out and directly tell you my thoughts 'Baltmike'

You are a fucking troll and a complete piece of shit. FUCK OFF ASSHOLE!

[Baltimike]

138. read posts # 15, 17, 73, 77 and 82

FOR COMPREHENSION, and then maybe get some anger management? You seem triggered.

[Tipperary]

140. Ditto.

I am giving up on this website.

[Baltimike]

144. kthanks.

BYE!!!!

[Tipperary]

147. Lol.

People are laughing at you.

[Baltimike]

158. and yet, here you are. nt

[Baltimike]

143. No. I won't fuck off, and my asshole is none of your business...

but same to ya motherfucker. Really.

[Vinca]

141. Junior, is that you?

[Baltimike]

142. wow, really? Read post #20, and I've noted your concern. This isn't an echo chamber. nt

[hlthe2b]

146. Your attitude toward Ms. Trump--the only member of the family calling him out

and with the professional credentials to do so in an informed manner is, at best, curious.

I could understand if you thought she might phrase things differently, thought her interview with Stephanopolis went better or even if you thought she appeared less than forthcoming (but I''d disagree strongly). Still, that would be a difference of perception--a difference of opinion. But, a trainwreck? Seems really disproportionately strong.

[Baltimike]

152. Pls read post #20. I NEVER said "less than forthcoming" please don't put words in my mouth

what I thought was bad was that *I* found her hard to follow. I said so. I even responded to people telling my why that could be...and I agreed with them.

Also, I posted this in the middle of her interview, which did get better (and yes, on this very thread, I said so)

But LOTS of word parsing and dead space.

This is a discussion board. I was discussing it.

I didn't see the Stephonopolous interview. But the Rachel one was very disjointed...lots of posters had lots of reasons that I hadn't considered. I admitted that, and said so.

Then the piling on started....

[hlthe2b]

160. Now I know why your assessment of the interview was so inexplicably off base

Given your inability to read and process what I actually wrote, which, did NOT claim you said that she was less than forthcoming. I said I could understand if you had felt that way.

From my previous post#146:

I could understand if you thought she might phrase things differently, thought her interview with Stephanopolis went better or even if you thought she appeared less than forthcoming (but I''d disagree strongly). Still, that would be a difference of perception--a difference of opinion. But, a trainwreck? Seems really disproportionately strong.

I guess that explains a lot.

[Baltimike]

163. not inexplicably off base...but I can understand why you thought

the term trainwreck was too strong....but given the context of the rest of the thread, it is clear where I was coming from

[SMC22307]

145. Yes, you're the only one. This OP didn't go as planned, eh?

[Tipperary]

148. Not at all.

Too funny.

[SMC22307]

149. DU isn't what it was in its "glory days" (Dubya/Iraq) but it still manages to...

weed through obvious bullshit on occassion.

[Tipperary]

150. True, I am going to go with your optimistic outlook.

Seen some ugly things today.

[SMC22307]

193. Just logged backed on after a long break today...

and see what you mean. Although one OP led me to a burrito-eating dog, so there's that.

Link to tweet

[ProfessorGAC]

151. Disagree

I've been here since nearly the beginning.
Come "imminent election" time, things have gotten more contentious here.
Combination of trolls and persistent "devil's advocate" types stirring the pot.
Just view the posts from people you trust, and ignore those looking to run interference.

[Baltimike]

159. not looking to run interference, just speaking my mind

God, it would be nice if people actually read my posts before knee jerking all over the place.

[ProfessorGAC]

164. So, Everything Is About You?

I didn't mention you, nor was I even referring to you.
My post was about DU being different, or not, from the "glory days".
I think it's YOU that should read the posts, instead of kneejerking.
Get over yourself.

[Baltimike]

167. Oh dear...I must have misinterpreted your post

on my thread.

[ProfessorGAC]

171. You Do Grasp What A Sub Thread Is, Right?

Happens all the time here.
But, since you're the one who doesn't read for comprehension, you probably don't.
BTW: you went past tedious about 6 miles back.

[Baltimike]

180. past tedious 6 miles back, and

yet here you are...

[SMC22307]

194. I've been here since 2004 under a different name.

I came here for stimulating conversation and learned quite a bit. I recommended the site to friends and coworkers. Not anymore. But I have used the Trash thread feature quite a bit today in the hopes of getting the cream to rise to the top... we'll see if that helps.

[Baltimike]

154. as *planned* Read ALL OF MY POSTS ON HERE FOR COMPREHENSION

Thanks.

Oh, and thanks for kicking my post. My God, I was ready to let it sink but then this piling on happened.

Thanks for the kick though. Nice job!!!

[Kali]

173. there is a link at the bottom of the OP

where you can choose to self delete if you are actually interested in "sinking" the thread

you can even copy and paste the content of the OP into a reply before deleting it. you know, for posterity.

[Baltimike]

182. the piling on got too insulting

I got called an asshole and a troll in one post. If that stays, so does this.

[SMC22307]

195. My pleasure. I'm all for shining a bright light...

[Baltimike]

198. Me too. Thanks for shining a light on the bullying and knee jerking

attempts to bully me into an echo chamber.

I never once said I didn't agree with her cause...but I do (and still) think that her interview with Rachel was very hard to watch

But you do you boo

[Imallin4Joe]

153. She's exposed the serial wrongdoings of the entire Trump family from an insiders view.

The people needed to read/hear this information any way it is presented.

I applaud her book.

[Baltimike]

155. Oh, I applaud the book for SURE, and respect her academic prowess

I found the beginning of the interview hard to watch, and said so. Maybe she's not a "media" person, or she had to consider legal issues...I can understand that...

[Imallin4Joe]

168. Peace, Baltimike. I'm with you.

Personally, I'd be scary on-camera. Some just aren't meant to go on live TV etc..

[LuckyCharms]

157. Well ,when I first saw her on Rachel, I thought she was a bit

aloof, or nervous. I've seen her in subsequent interviews, and I've changed my opinion. I think she is very intelligent, well spoken, and quite attractive. She presents herself as a normal person, in my opinion.

[Baltimike]

166. I only saw the Rachel interview, and it did get better as it went on, and lots of reasons why

that I can certainly understand. I am not saying that I don;t believe her...I do...but I found that interview a little hard to follow. Aloof is a good word for it.

And thank you for responding without judging me

[backscatter712]

162. She's not a pundit that goes on the bobblehead shows for a living.

I'd cut her a break. Especially since she has to give interviews while engaging in legal CYA because she's now in the crosshairs of Trump's scumbag lawyers.

[Baltimike]

165. stated, and answered upthread

[USALiberal]

170. WOW, Self delete this silly post! nt

[Baltimike]

177. Thanks for the kick for what you call a silly post

[USALiberal]

181. LOL, yes the RECs are amazing! nt

[Baltimike]

183. LOL!!! So is that FLAME since no one has to post for rec's and post #77

which you clearly didn't read kinda says it, but hey...THANKS FOR THE KICK, yanno? Why don;t you kick it up again?

[kskiska]

172. Would it be better if she were studied like, say, Ivanka?

[Baltimike]

176. LOL!!!

[LanternWaste]

191. It can be difficult to accept those not polished enough for our commercially branded tastes

Thankfully, there were enough viewers who ignored the superficial and the shallow, concentrating on the message and content rather than supercilious criticisms of the irrelevant.

[Demonaut]

196. yes

[musicblind]

197. Public speaking is an art.

We're used to hearing from politicians and journalists; that's skewed our expectations.