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Under The Radar

(3,406 posts)
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:02 PM Jul 2020

Could it be that Mueller is fighting for control of his legacy?

Robert Mueller is taking a stand against Trump and Barr’s “pardons” of a Michael Flynn and Roger Stone and besides his WAPO OPED he seems eager to speak out And have a final say of the investigation that he led.
I hate that he didn’t take this stand when called before congress and played word games to indicate that Trump committed crimes but held the position that he was powerless to do anything and wouldn’t say the manic words.
Let’s give him the chance. Although late, he deserves that chance.

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Could it be that Mueller is fighting for control of his legacy? (Original Post) Under The Radar Jul 2020 OP
That bs crap about the sitting President can't Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #1
His "legacy" MyOwnPeace Jul 2020 #2
I think that sentiment is what he fears Under The Radar Jul 2020 #4
Mueller has had plenty of chances, but choose to write a mealy mouthed report that let Hoyt Jul 2020 #3
He was strong armed by Barr, he closed the investigation Under The Radar Jul 2020 #6
If he was going to show up, he would have done so last time he testified before Congress. Hoyt Jul 2020 #9
that last time Skittles Jul 2020 #10
He wimped out. Probably was shaky after looking at himself in the mirror right before hearing. Hoyt Jul 2020 #12
Yes it is on Mueller, and I know he knows that Trump Under The Radar Jul 2020 #13
It seems interesting that he was prepared. Baitball Blogger Jul 2020 #5
he needs to come clean about how Barr shut it all down Skittles Jul 2020 #7
That certainly would help his "legacy". BigmanPigman Jul 2020 #8
Except Mueller explicitly said Barr did not curtail his investigation. Hoyt Jul 2020 #17
yes Skittles Jul 2020 #20
mueller let us down badly with his timid report that did not say something like samsingh Jul 2020 #11
He has shown to drop the ball on integrity dreamland Jul 2020 #14
If only he would've gone after republicans the same way he went after muslims. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2020 #15
? Lulu KC Jul 2020 #23
I was referring to his time as FBI director under Junior. When the Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2020 #25
Thank you n/t Lulu KC Jul 2020 #26
Any time. Was never a fan. I've had respect for him, in the sense that he never gave me Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2020 #27
If not, he should. smirkymonkey Jul 2020 #16
If he cared about his legacy, he'd've done the right thing the first time. Iggo Jul 2020 #18
Old Bob is just another lickspittle republican puke SoonerPride Jul 2020 #19
Rod knew who to pick....he picked the guy who never will and never has colored outside the lines. Trek4Eva Jul 2020 #21
I lean toward those lines are important. I get why, in this case, others will not. Volaris Jul 2020 #22
+1 Lulu KC Jul 2020 #24
A little late for that. He could have chosen to really dig in on Trump's finances, which would have lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #28
Well, his wet dish rag approach won't work for that either Captain Zero Jul 2020 #29

Phoenix61

(17,025 posts)
1. That bs crap about the sitting President can't
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:06 PM
Jul 2020

be indicted just got sat on its ear by the Supreme Court. Maybe he believes Twitler could be charged now?

MyOwnPeace

(16,951 posts)
2. His "legacy"
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:08 PM
Jul 2020

would have been much more solid and respected if he had taken a stand to defend the work his office did for the "Mueller Report" and what BarrBarrHut did to deface it.
Now, yet other example of "too little too late."

LEGACY?

"Nothing to see here, folks. Move on..........."

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. Mueller has had plenty of chances, but choose to write a mealy mouthed report that let
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:09 PM
Jul 2020

trump and his campaign off the hook, using some really contorted legal theories to do it.

Maybe he's had a chance to think about things and wants to repent, but I doubt it.

Under The Radar

(3,406 posts)
6. He was strong armed by Barr, he closed the investigation
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:14 PM
Jul 2020

within 3 weeks of Barr’s confirmation. Barr has purged everything that Mueller built in the FBI and handed to Comey. Now Trump is slandering Mullers name. I would love to see it if The old Bob Mueller shows up for that fight

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. If he was going to show up, he would have done so last time he testified before Congress.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:21 PM
Jul 2020

Barr didn't make Mueller state almost 30 times in his report that "we found no evidence that trump or his campaign . . . . ."

He even went as far as to let trump Junior and Kush off the hook for the trump tower meeting by stating they were too stupid to possess the requisite intent to charge them with conspiring with the Russians.

That's on Mueller.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
12. He wimped out. Probably was shaky after looking at himself in the mirror right before hearing.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:27 PM
Jul 2020

Under The Radar

(3,406 posts)
13. Yes it is on Mueller, and I know he knows that Trump
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:30 PM
Jul 2020

Committed purgers and multiple counts of obstruction even attempting to get Mueller fired himself. Mueller had the goods on him, Barr takes over and redacts the guilty parts from the report.
I want Bob to tell the truth. He was more than Rambo to me before the report, I give him the chance of redemption.

Baitball Blogger

(46,776 posts)
5. It seems interesting that he was prepared.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:12 PM
Jul 2020

Possibly had an understanding with Barr. If Roger Stone goes to jail, he would leave quietly. But, Trump did what Trump does best.

If Mueller want to save his legacy, he needs to take Barr down. Trump will follow.

BigmanPigman

(51,651 posts)
8. That certainly would help his "legacy".
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:19 PM
Jul 2020

Is his legacy more important than the country though? Come clean for the country's sake, not how he looks in the history books.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
17. Except Mueller explicitly said Barr did not curtail his investigation.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 10:39 PM
Jul 2020

Mueller could have stood up and told the truth before Congress, but he wimped out.

samsingh

(17,604 posts)
11. mueller let us down badly with his timid report that did not say something like
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 09:26 PM
Jul 2020

"i would charge the president with a felony if i could'

mueller like comey played soft with trump and both got their reputations destroyed.

dreamland

(964 posts)
14. He has shown to drop the ball on integrity
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 10:34 PM
Jul 2020

Integrity is not a trait you can ever compromise. It's a trait that is written into your history.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,512 posts)
27. Any time. Was never a fan. I've had respect for him, in the sense that he never gave me
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 11:17 AM
Jul 2020

"uber corrupt" repuke vibes. I don't think he's the worst. But it's hard to believe for me that he wouldn't see the cancer at the WH. As well as in the so called Justice Department. If so. It was his duty to "do more". As one of his top prosecutors admitted recently.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
16. If not, he should.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 10:38 PM
Jul 2020

He will be judged by posterity as a hero or a coward. It's up to him. I'm willing to give him a chance to do the right thing. If he doesn't, he will forever be seen as a weak, pathetic lackey of the Trump administration.

 

Trek4Eva

(22 posts)
21. Rod knew who to pick....he picked the guy who never will and never has colored outside the lines.
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 12:19 AM
Jul 2020

Real straight laced and by the book and the book only. I'm sorry but that is NOT what America needed.

Volaris

(10,278 posts)
22. I lean toward those lines are important. I get why, in this case, others will not.
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 01:00 AM
Jul 2020

Imho, without those lines, we end up with a Ken Starr. Mueller colored all the numbers as the instructions in the book told him to.

It was BARR who told the american public that we were looking at Barney the Dinosaur, instead of a passive aggressive criminal conspiracy.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
28. A little late for that. He could have chosen to really dig in on Trump's finances, which would have
Tue Jul 14, 2020, 11:19 AM
Jul 2020

guaranteed Trump's ouster.

Now hundreds of thousands will die because he ignored the big picture.

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