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ScienceNews: A Covid-19 vaccine may come soon (as early as October). (Original Post) triron Jul 2020 OP
As early as the October surprise Fullduplexxx Jul 2020 #1
He could announce a vaccine whether there is one or not. LisaL Jul 2020 #4
Not sure I'd believe in a vaccine promoted by the trumpft administration Merlot Jul 2020 #11
Why not? He announced that ANYONE WHO WANTED A COVID TEST, COULD GET ONE. not_the_one Jul 2020 #22
And we still won't vote for him. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2020 #23
Excellent. Demovictory9 Jul 2020 #2
It can't be fully tested by October. LisaL Jul 2020 #3
Lots and lots of "ifs." Don't count on it. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #5
+1 SoonerPride Jul 2020 #8
I would be willing to bet it won't SoonerPride Jul 2020 #6
but will it work or is this trump's Hail Mary? samsingh Jul 2020 #7
A lot of his supporters don't even believe in vaccines. LisaL Jul 2020 #9
that's a good point samsingh Jul 2020 #10
But saying a vaccine is "available" doesn't really mean it is widely available Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #12
Bingo. That's right up there with PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #20
China will say NO GeorgeGist Jul 2020 #13
No. Way. In. Hell. angrychair Jul 2020 #14
I expect Trump will announce a miraculous vaccine around mid-October. lpbk2713 Jul 2020 #15
they are going BGBD Jul 2020 #16
What is a flu shot compared to a vaccine? BSdetect Jul 2020 #17
Johnson and Johnson and Astrazeneca have pledged that any vaccine they will make available at still_one Jul 2020 #18
I wonder how many llashram Jul 2020 #19
I, for one, am going to be slow to get a vaccine, PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #21
Trump's victims are crying out from their graves, "he is a mass murderer. NCjack Jul 2020 #24

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
4. He could announce a vaccine whether there is one or not.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 11:50 AM
Jul 2020

No way they can test these vaccines fully by October. No way to say how long immunity is going to last.
And then of course many Trumpers don't even believe in vaccines to begin with.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
11. Not sure I'd believe in a vaccine promoted by the trumpft administration
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 12:00 PM
Jul 2020

Doesn't make me an anti-vaxer, just skeptical of any vaccine announced in October.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
22. Why not? He announced that ANYONE WHO WANTED A COVID TEST, COULD GET ONE.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 12:43 PM
Jul 2020

He will announce a LOT of shit in October.

IF it is bullshit, we need to have science/medical professionals lined up to refute it.

We can call it the HOAX Vaccine.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
3. It can't be fully tested by October.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 11:49 AM
Jul 2020

The next step is to vaccinate many thousands of people and then to see if there is a statistical difference with them developing covid. How all of this can be done by October?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,924 posts)
5. Lots and lots of "ifs." Don't count on it.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 11:53 AM
Jul 2020
Despite still having much to prove, companies are gearing up manufacturing without knowing if their product will ever reach the market. By the end of the year, companies promise they can have hundreds of millions of doses. “We keep saying, ‘Are you sure?’ And they keep saying yes,” Fauci said. “That’s pretty impressive if they can do it.”

For instance, if everything goes right, a vaccine in testing now from Pfizer might be available as soon as October, Pfizer chairman and chief executive Albert Bourla said during the Milken Institute session. “If we are lucky, and the product works and we do not have significant bumps on our way to manufacturing,” he said, the company expects to be able to make 1 billion doses by early next year.

Pfizer released preliminary data on the safety of one of four vaccine candidates it is evaluating July 1 at medRxiv.org. In the small study of 45 people, no severe side effects were noted. Vaccination produced neutralizing antibodies at levels 1.8 to 2.8 times levels found in blood plasma from people who had recovered from COVID-19, researchers reported....

If manufacturers can deliver a vaccine as promised, there could be another big hurdle: There’s no guarantee people will line up for shots. About a quarter of Americans said in recent polls that they would “definitely” or “probably not” get a coronavirus vaccine if one were available. “That’s a pending public health crisis,” Pitts says.


SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
6. I would be willing to bet it won't
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 11:56 AM
Jul 2020

Don't hold your breath.

I think the press and especially the TV media keeps feeding the public these hopeful stories to boost morale.

There is little hope for a quick fix and I wish they would stop peddling nonsense.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
9. A lot of his supporters don't even believe in vaccines.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 11:57 AM
Jul 2020

Or they thing covid vaccine is a plan to put microchip into them.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,690 posts)
12. But saying a vaccine is "available" doesn't really mean it is widely available
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 12:00 PM
Jul 2020

In the link you posted, the company that hopes its vaccine will be “available” by October, said the vaccine wouldn’t be mass produced until early 2021.

angrychair

(8,749 posts)
14. No. Way. In. Hell.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 12:13 PM
Jul 2020

Am I taking a vaccine that comes out in October or that comes from any US based lab.

The trump administration isnt just cutting corners to speed things up, they've shredded safety guidelines completely.
Plus drug companies creating the vaccine have been given immunity from liability.

It might be safer to drink Clorox.

lpbk2713

(42,770 posts)
15. I expect Trump will announce a miraculous vaccine around mid-October.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 12:15 PM
Jul 2020


"Fabulous. Just fabulous."

Of course it may be some snake oil with kerosene as the main ingredient that
will do more harm than good but there won't be time to prove him wrong.

 

BGBD

(3,282 posts)
16. they are going
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 12:25 PM
Jul 2020

to manufacture millions and millions of doses of their vaccine before it is occur of testing, essentially. If they get through testing and are approved the manufacturer in will be complete and they will just need to disperse it.


Of course there will be no information on the long term safety or effectiveness of it.

The Chinese have already given limited approval for a vaccine. They have approved it for use by the military.

still_one

(92,482 posts)
18. Johnson and Johnson and Astrazeneca have pledged that any vaccine they will make available at
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jul 2020

cost.

I don't believe any other companies have made that pledge as of yet


llashram

(6,265 posts)
19. I wonder how many
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 12:33 PM
Jul 2020

medical scientists, researchers and medical professionals are being pressured by trump and his administration goons like dr. carson to beat the election with some kind of announcement of a vaccine, of course truly untested correctly. And some might be helped, highly touted, others will further sicken and die, if not from the virus, the cure and not much about that will hit MSM.

These lying fascist will go to any extreme to beat Vice President Biden. Trump is taking the advice from Putin, it's alleged the Mein Kampf is on his bed stand and his people have studied how to destroy our still developing democracy with race-baiting their followers that white power is the only right power in this country. Violently shutting down protest against the fascists running this country at this time.


Lies, lies, lies spewed out continually from this potus. I saw a number 22thousand+ somewhere and I believe it. Lie long enough, in their book it becomes the truth.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,920 posts)
21. I, for one, am going to be slow to get a vaccine,
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 12:39 PM
Jul 2020

especially one that seems to have been rushed to market. I remember the Swine Flu vaccine fiasco all too well.

And even though I'm nominally in a high risk group because of my age (71), I don't have underlying health problems and it's easy for me to stay home most of the time. When I'm out I wear a mask. Meanwhile, once we do, if we do, get an effective vaccine, there are are a lot of those who are going to need it before me.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
24. Trump's victims are crying out from their graves, "he is a mass murderer.
Mon Jul 13, 2020, 01:41 PM
Jul 2020

Don't vote for him or any Republican, ever, for the rest of your lives. You owe us that."

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