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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsROBERT MUELLER BREAKS HIS SILENCE:
ROBERT MUELLER BREAKS HIS SILENCE: The Russia investigation was of paramount importance. [Roger] Stone was prosecuted and convicted because he committed federal crimes. He remains a convicted felon, and rightly so.
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Mueller on why Stone was a central figure: He communicated in 2016 with individuals known to us to be Russian intelligence officers, and he claimed advance knowledge of WikiLeaks release of emails stolen by those Russian intelligence officers.
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Rosenstein joins in tooo...
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dhol82
(9,353 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,045 posts)paleotn
(17,997 posts)But a new AG might find things interesting. I doubt the current charges are the only thing Stone can be charged with, given unimpeded investigations. If I were in his shoes, I'd be checking out relatively nice countries that lack extradition treaties with the US. Just a thought.
plimsoll
(1,671 posts)Now he's convicted, but protected by the Fifth Amendment. If he's pardoned and subpoenaed he has no protection from the 5th and must testify. If he lies again, new charges. Trump can keep pardoning him, but each time it is more and more apparent that Trump and Stone have something really bad to hide.
LakeArenal
(28,863 posts)But the rest of us do. Thanks for the reminder.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Should have spoken up a long time ago Bob.
sprinkleeninow
(20,268 posts)PNW-Dem
(244 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,509 posts)Nevilledog
(51,268 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Your bravery knows no bounds.
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JonLP24
(29,322 posts)These lines sound like James Comey
No rational, unbiased actor would have raised "her emails" that close to the election because a pervert married to a staffer got caught being a creep.
That shows terrible judgment or willful political bias.
The rest sounds like Robert Mueller.
ProfessorGAC
(65,337 posts)I'll delete.
Except for the part about screwing up the Russia thing, yes I mixed 2 different issues.
Must be more tired than I feel.
Goodheart
(5,351 posts)Even so, I wish he would just kindly shut the fuck up if he has nothing to ADD.
Polly Hennessey
(6,812 posts)I saw a clip of his testimony on Rachael last night. He seemed either confused, beaten down, or intimidated. Why didnt we notice it at the time. Something seems off about Mueller. Why does it seem so easy for tRump to frighten people.
sprinkleeninow
(20,268 posts)still a repugnicant
catchnrelease
(1,946 posts)Some said Mueller seemed distracted or not as sharp as he had been expected to be. Like you say, confused or ? That he might be ill. I didn't watch so I can't say one way or the other. But kind of infuriating that he's getting fired up now. Thanks Bob.
Under The Radar
(3,406 posts)Telling us the truth now doesnt do us a lot of good when it is too late. But at least you have been able to clear your conscious while preventing any wrath from the childish tyrant.
Javaman
(62,534 posts)To pull some bullshit to allow the walking crater to steal the election
spanone
(135,920 posts)warmfeet
(3,321 posts)So what now?
There has been a great deal of talking about right and wrong, with the only action I have observed being wrong.
So what now?
Where do we go from here?
Mueller can divulge much more than he has.
Why doesn't he?
Blue Owl
(50,547 posts)n/t
canetoad
(17,208 posts)Robert S. Mueller III served as special counsel for the Justice Department from 2017 to 2019.
The work of the special counsels office its report, indictments, guilty pleas and convictions should speak for itself. But I feel compelled to respond both to broad claims that our investigation was illegitimate and our motives were improper, and to specific claims that Roger Stone was a victim of our office. The Russia investigation was of paramount importance. Stone was prosecuted and convicted because he committed federal crimes. He remains a convicted felon, and rightly so.
Russias actions were a threat to Americas democracy. It was critical that they be investigated and understood. By late 2016, the FBI had evidence that the Russians had signaled to a Trump campaign adviser that they could assist the campaign through the anonymous release of information damaging to the Democratic candidate. And the FBI knew that the Russians had done just that: Beginning in July 2016, WikiLeaks released emails stolen by Russian military intelligence officers from the Clinton campaign. Other online personas using false names fronts for Russian military intelligence also released Clinton campaign emails.
Following FBI Director James B. Comeys termination in May 2017, the acting attorney general named me as special counsel and directed the special counsels office to investigate Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. The order specified lines of investigation for us to pursue, including any links or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the Trump campaign. One of our cases involved Stone, an official on the campaign until mid-2015 and a supporter of the campaign throughout 2016. Stone became a central figure in our investigation for two key reasons: He communicated in 2016 with individuals known to us to be Russian intelligence officers, and he claimed advance knowledge of WikiLeaks release of emails stolen by those Russian intelligence officers.
We now have a detailed picture of Russias interference in the 2016 presidential election. The special counsels office identified two principal operations directed at our election: hacking and dumping Clinton campaign emails, and an online social media campaign to disparage the Democratic candidate. We also identified numerous links between the Russian government and Trump campaign personnel Stone among them. We did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired with the Russian government in its activities. The investigation did, however, establish that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome. It also established that the campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts.
More: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/11/mueller-stone-oped/?arc404=true
Nevilledog
(51,268 posts)grumpyduck
(6,278 posts)The American nation was counting on you to speak up. You kept your mouth shut.
Keep it shut, asshole!
stillcool
(32,626 posts)too bad no one got to read the unredacted version of the report you're now trying to defend.
global1
(25,294 posts)Last edited Sat Jul 11, 2020, 09:51 PM - Edit history (1)
Maybe it would have made it harder for Trump to do it. After the fact is just too little - too late.
plimsoll
(1,671 posts)Trump had to commute the sentence. It's the only way to keep Stone silent. Nothing would have changed.
AlexSFCA
(6,139 posts)Lock him up.
(6,955 posts)... the US is a subsidiary of Putin's kleptocracy since January 2017.
Go back to your retirement hide or start undoing it by speaking up for the Home of the Brave (could have been you...).
MAKE JUSTICE GREAT AGAIN
RICO TRUMPs & ACCOMPLICES
THEN LOCK 'EM ALL UP!*&1%!1
dem4decades
(11,317 posts)hotrod0808
(323 posts)How does this help the country? How does this punish those who sold us out? How does this tip the scale at all? Too little, too late. Fuck him.
paleotn
(17,997 posts)Long term, your freedom may still be in question, since I doubt you were charged with the totality of your crimes.
MadMike47
(106 posts)Response to sunonmars (Original post)
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JI7
(89,283 posts)as if the trump trash would have changed their minds if he had been more like what one sees in there movies.
the trump trash hates Fauci also.
the problem it's congressional republicans and those in his administration like Bolton. not Mueller.
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)Mueller did what he was supposed to do. He was never the superhero going to swoop in and save us.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)or encouraged Russians to assist in the election. He repeated no evidence over and over in his mealy mouthed Report.
Mueller even came up with twisted legal theories that some like trumps boys were too stupid to have the requisite knowledge they were breaking the law at the trump tower meeting with Ruskies.
Once the underlying crime was poo pooed, it was much tougher to make the charge of obstruction stick.
Mueller wimped out, and here we are.
jrthin
(4,841 posts)NBachers
(17,170 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)edhopper
(33,651 posts)"Our investigation showed the President committed high crimes against the United States."
But your silence lead us here.
Blecht
(3,803 posts)Spineless piece of shit.