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torius

(1,652 posts)
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 05:45 PM Jul 2020

Herman Cain possibly on ventilator

Last edited Mon Jul 13, 2020, 03:20 AM - Edit history (1)

According to whoever posts his tweets, he's on "cruise control" and his breathing is improving daily.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Herman wants to once again thank everyone for your prayers. He describes the current process as "cruise control" because the progress is slow but his breathing is getting stronger every day. <br><br>Make no mistake: He is improving!<br><br>Please keep praying and know he loves you all.</p>— Herman Cain (@THEHermanCain) <a href="


?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 10, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He has been hospitalized with Covid-19 since July 2. His account continues to post anti-mask tweets, one was even posted the day he was admitted to the hospital. Other tweeters have pointed out that cruise control implies ventilation, and there's an article online calling ventilation "cruise control for the lungs."
https://journals.lww.com/nursingmadeincrediblyeasy/Citation/2009/09000/Mechanical_ventilation__Cruise_control_for_the.10.aspx

(The account also seems to be a fan of people who drive into crowds of protesters.)

Cain attended the June 20 Tulsa rally where he sat unmasked and undistanced among others doing the same, despite there being plenty of empty seats. But hey, those masks are uncomfy ...

If he survives, will he continue to do, and/or advocate for, the same activities that led to his situation?

UPDATE: I listened to The Rachel Maddow Show last night (it was a couple days after the episode had aired), and Rachel played audio of a nurse telling a patient that they were going to intubate and put him on a ventilator with sedation, but once ventilated, they could lower the sedative and the patient might be able to communicate by writing on a pad or nodding. So, it may be that Cain was both communicating and ventilated.

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Herman Cain possibly on ventilator (Original Post) torius Jul 2020 OP
If he has been hospitalized uninterrupted since June 2 DFW Jul 2020 #1
This Hekate Jul 2020 #5
That's an error, it's been since July 2. Mariana Jul 2020 #6
sorry I meant to write July. Corrected. torius Jul 2020 #11
As I posted a little bird told me malaise Jul 2020 #10
July 2nd. marybourg Jul 2020 #17
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2020 #26
If he survives, he'll still be a Face-Eating Leopard. (n/t) Iggo Jul 2020 #2
You would think that people learn from the natural consequences of their actions... Thomas Hurt Jul 2020 #3
If he's vented he's medically paralyzed so Phoenix61 Jul 2020 #4
Basically, Nein, Nein, Nein Zambero Jul 2020 #8
LOL mnmoderatedem Jul 2020 #21
Sickening that his Tweeting staff torius Jul 2020 #13
Yup. torius Jul 2020 #15
I wonder how hard it is to say "Ubeki-beki-beki-stan-stan" while on a ventilator? Aristus Jul 2020 #7
Corona-rona- torius Jul 2020 #12
I think I may be a bad person, because I do not have the sympathy for him that I have for others FM123 Jul 2020 #9
Then, I am a worse person than you are. Blue_true Jul 2020 #28
If he is talking, which might be a total lie, then he's... Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #14
Yes or maybe he said it torius Jul 2020 #20
Maybe. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #22
Exactly. torius Jul 2020 #23
I couldn't find anything on Trump saying anything about this. chowder66 Jul 2020 #16
He wouldn't be thankful for MY prayers. Crunchy Frog Jul 2020 #18
Other than that, did he have a good time at the MAGA rally? TheCowsCameHome Jul 2020 #19
People on ventilators don't speak let alone tweet la-trucker Jul 2020 #24
He's a dangerous hypocrite PJMcK Jul 2020 #25
I am as worried for him as he is worried for the people he encouraged to act recklessly. Midnight Writer Jul 2020 #27

DFW

(54,476 posts)
1. If he has been hospitalized uninterrupted since June 2
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 05:47 PM
Jul 2020

He does NOT have a mild case. Continually hospitalized with COVID-19 for six weeks means he is fighting for his life.

Mariana

(14,861 posts)
6. That's an error, it's been since July 2.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 05:52 PM
Jul 2020

He went to Trump's thing in Tulsa. That may be where he caught it.

torius

(1,652 posts)
11. sorry I meant to write July. Corrected.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 06:07 PM
Jul 2020

Time is flying. Tulsa was June 20 so saying June 2 makes no sense. Thanks.

malaise

(269,254 posts)
10. As I posted a little bird told me
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 05:57 PM
Jul 2020

he is in a very serious condition. Further he has several preconditions and is by no means young.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
3. You would think that people learn from the natural consequences of their actions...
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 05:48 PM
Jul 2020

but you can't fix stupid.

Phoenix61

(17,023 posts)
4. If he's vented he's medically paralyzed so
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 05:49 PM
Jul 2020

he doesn’t try to breath on his own. He’s also medicated so he doesn’t know he’s medically paralyzed. He ain’t saying shit to no one.

torius

(1,652 posts)
13. Sickening that his Tweeting staff
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 06:11 PM
Jul 2020

keeps posting anti-mask propaganda. And they only dropped a hint about his condition without coming out and saying what EXACTLY they meant.

FM123

(10,054 posts)
9. I think I may be a bad person, because I do not have the sympathy for him that I have for others
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 05:55 PM
Jul 2020

fighting Covid. He refused to wear a mask or practice social distancing at the Tulsa rally then went out of his way to tweet a bunch of anti-mask posts saying that people are fed up having to wear with them. I hope he doesn't die, but I am not feeling sorry for him.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
28. Then, I am a worse person than you are.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 09:04 PM
Jul 2020

If that asshole dies, the world will be batter off. He could have used his public profile to help save lives, he chose otherwise. Fuck him.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,858 posts)
14. If he is talking, which might be a total lie, then he's...
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 06:12 PM
Jul 2020

... not on a ventilator.

Might be wearing an oxygen mask, and maybe even going through blood filtering/oxygenation. I have no doubt that he can afford the best healthcare, unlike most of us.

torius

(1,652 posts)
20. Yes or maybe he said it
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 06:42 PM
Jul 2020

before they put the tube down his throat and they fudged the verb tense, "describes" vs. "described." It kind of sounds like something a doctor or nurse would say. "Don't be scared, we're just putting you on a little cruise control ..."

torius

(1,652 posts)
23. Exactly.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 06:48 PM
Jul 2020

They drop a hint so they can have plausible deniability for whatever happens. If he dies they can say we didn't hide his condition. If he lives, well, it was just a small flu.

chowder66

(9,098 posts)
16. I couldn't find anything on Trump saying anything about this.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 06:20 PM
Jul 2020

That's pretty fucked up if that is the case.

Midnight Writer

(21,830 posts)
27. I am as worried for him as he is worried for the people he encouraged to act recklessly.
Sat Jul 11, 2020, 08:04 PM
Jul 2020

If he recovers, he will go right back to being a dick.

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