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Anyone think the threat of NY prosecution will make the Pig not run for second term? (Original Post) Thomas Hurt Jul 2020 OP
Yep - he would withdraw malaise Jul 2020 #1
Frick and Frack! leftieNanner Jul 2020 #2
Why would it? The only thing that's saving him from prosecution now The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #3
Right? Cosmocat Jul 2020 #10
I still don't think the republicans will abandon him. Claustrum Jul 2020 #4
He'll run. His grifter family and the attendant corrupt officials need him too irisblue Jul 2020 #5
No Sherman A1 Jul 2020 #6
Why would he? PTWB Jul 2020 #7
Can Pence pardon him for crimes committed before his term? n/t targetpractice Jul 2020 #8
Yes, there's no limit to presidential pardon authority. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2020 #11
I believe a President can only pardon federal crimes. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #15
Thanks, PoindexterOglethorpe... targetpractice Jul 2020 #17
It will just make him more determined and desperate world wide wally Jul 2020 #9
He's alread trying, by moving to Florida... Wounded Bear Jul 2020 #12
Short answer is No awesomerwb1 Jul 2020 #13
I'd say 80% chance he sticks it out and gets humiliated this November. backscatter712 Jul 2020 #14
Probably not. PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2020 #16
I'm not aware that Ivanka has a role at Trump Organization. brooklynite Jul 2020 #18

leftieNanner

(15,058 posts)
2. Frick and Frack!
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:14 AM
Jul 2020

LOL!

I actually saw them perform in the Ice Capades when I was young. They were incredibly talented and very funny.

Cosmocat

(14,558 posts)
10. Right?
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:47 AM
Jul 2020

He got elected having said and done things hundreds of things in past and during that campaign that would have been terminal for a POTUS candidate and over the last three and a half years has run amuck completely unabated.

But, once again people think he will just up and walk away.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
4. I still don't think the republicans will abandon him.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:17 AM
Jul 2020

Trump's support among republican is still exceptionally high at 90%+. Of course the reason of his high approval among republican is a direct result of any sane person leaving that party. But, it would be a disaster for republicans to run anyone but Trump this year.

Not to mention, who is going to replace Trump? There is no upside to handle the disaster that is left after by Trump. If I want to run as a republican, I would wait till Trump is gone and come out as the reasonable anti-Trump "return to republican core" person.

irisblue

(32,916 posts)
5. He'll run. His grifter family and the attendant corrupt officials need him too
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:18 AM
Jul 2020

They will keep him going & propped up till he face plants in public. **FTR I do not want him to, b/c the country, but he is definitely physically & mentally deteriorating.**

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
6. No
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:19 AM
Jul 2020

He will delay, obfuscate, drag his heals, challenge, threaten and more at every step of the way. He thrives on court proceedings. This will just feed into his persecution complex.

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
8. Can Pence pardon him for crimes committed before his term? n/t
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:26 AM
Jul 2020

This case may provide an incentive for him to resign if that's the case.

Or, if he goes for it and wins, then it's likely the statute of limitations would run out during his second term.

Everything is crazy up in the air, right?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,811 posts)
15. I believe a President can only pardon federal crimes.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 01:06 PM
Jul 2020

The state of New York is keenly interested in Trump's finances.

targetpractice

(4,919 posts)
17. Thanks, PoindexterOglethorpe...
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 01:34 PM
Jul 2020

I thought there were some limitations somehow regarding how the SDNY could proceed. Thanks for the clarification!

Wounded Bear

(58,584 posts)
12. He's alread trying, by moving to Florida...
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:50 AM
Jul 2020

pretty sure there are extradition agreements between NY and FL.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
14. I'd say 80% chance he sticks it out and gets humiliated this November.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:19 PM
Jul 2020

20% chance that he drops out and bolts.

He's a stubborn-ass narcissist, but he's also a sniveling coward.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,811 posts)
16. Probably not.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 01:09 PM
Jul 2020

Keep in mind that he's a narcissist, which means no one else in the entire world matters at all. Just look at how he's been whining for quite some time now about how badly he's been treated while in office. If he's not being praised and coddled every second of every hour, he can't stand it.

Plus, he's probably delusional enough to truly believe his claim that all of the polls that show Biden ahead of him are truly rigged.

To put it another way, he will not have a concession speech prepared for Election Night.

brooklynite

(94,302 posts)
18. I'm not aware that Ivanka has a role at Trump Organization.
Thu Jul 9, 2020, 01:37 PM
Jul 2020

Not clear what she'd be criminally liable for.

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