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Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 09:18 AM Jul 2020

Buffalo Police Officers who pushed protester now suspended *with* pay (originally w/o pay)

https://www.localsyr.com/news/local-news/buffalo-police-officers-who-pushed-protester-now-suspended-with-pay/

by: Kelly Khatib

Posted: Jul 7, 2020 / 08:16 AM EDT / Updated: Jul 7, 2020 / 08:16 AM EDT

BUFFALO, N.Y. (WIVB) — Two Buffalo Police officers who were suspended without pay after a video showed them pushing 75-year-old protester Martin Gugino in June, are now back on the city’s payroll.

Sources tell News 4 that Robert McCabe,32, and Aaron Torgalski,39, are being suspended with pay due to a collective bargaining agreement that has gone into effect after 30 days. This is normal protocol for this type of agreement.

Both officers are charged with assualt in the second degree for the incident involving Gugino and face a maximum sentance of seven years if convicted.

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Buffalo Police Officers who pushed protester now suspended *with* pay (originally w/o pay) (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Jul 2020 OP
A pat on the back and a little vacay to boot! ret5hd Jul 2020 #1
The FOP at work protecting bad cops instead of redstatebluegirl Jul 2020 #2
Post removed Post removed Jul 2020 #3
I'm sorry, but a month ago, it was reported they were suspended w/o pay. Dennis Donovan Jul 2020 #7
CBA Collective Bargaining Agreement. dware Jul 2020 #13
Thanks n/t Dennis Donovan Jul 2020 #14
No problem. dware Jul 2020 #16
Republicans want us to attack public sector unions WestCoastYellowDog Jul 2020 #15
Time To Toss These Contracts, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2020 #4
They are not so much contracts as protection rackets greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #6
A Useful Way To Look At It, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2020 #9
That would be something! greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #10
Public sector unions are now protection rackets? WestCoastYellowDog Jul 2020 #17
Police Unions, Sir, Police Unions.... The Magistrate Jul 2020 #18
+100. dware Jul 2020 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2020 #21
No, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2020 #23
Vacation for Vicious Cops greenjar_01 Jul 2020 #5
City will eventually pay bigtime to the victim of cop's attack. nt oasis Jul 2020 #8
This will add fuel to the plaintiff's case. lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #11
"Insult to injury" nt oasis Jul 2020 #12
More of the bad cope being being rewarded uponit7771 Jul 2020 #20
WTF is right malaise Jul 2020 #22

Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Dennis Donovan

(18,770 posts)
7. I'm sorry, but a month ago, it was reported they were suspended w/o pay.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:28 AM
Jul 2020

How could we, collectively, known about *this* a month ago?

And, enlighten me... CBA?

What does CBA stand for?
CBA is an acronym that means can't be arsed, meaning, essentially, that a person can't be bothered to find the energy or willingness to do something. It's used in England, Australia, and New Zealand more than it is in the US. Arse is a British slang version of ass.


How does that apply here?

dware

(12,094 posts)
13. CBA Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:43 AM
Jul 2020

It's right there in your thread.

Sources tell News 4 that Robert McCabe,32, and Aaron Torgalski,39, are being suspended with pay due to a collective bargaining agreement that has gone into effect after 30 days. This is normal protocol for this type of agreement.

dware

(12,094 posts)
16. No problem.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:49 AM
Jul 2020

I had to look it up also because I too was a little perplexed on what CBA stood for.
Have a great Tuesday.

 
15. Republicans want us to attack public sector unions
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:49 AM
Jul 2020

If you go after police unions, teacher unions are next. Find one racist or malicious/incompetent teacher and then take away all teachers’ due process or pensions.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
6. They are not so much contracts as protection rackets
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:28 AM
Jul 2020

The police pout and vow not to do their jobs if the contracts aren't exactly as they demand.

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
9. A Useful Way To Look At It, Sir
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:33 AM
Jul 2020

The contracts also protect police who engage in abusive behavior towards the public. They do this by mandating procedures that hamper investigation, and ensuring police themselves decide what is a well-founded complaint and what is not.

Police who strike can be fired in most states. Someone is going to have to face up to it, see to a strike occurring, and when it does fire the lot of them.

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
18. Police Unions, Sir, Police Unions....
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 10:59 AM
Jul 2020

No one said a thing about public school teachers or bus drivers or municipal clerks or any of the rest of it.

Police unions need breaking badly. They make a mighty contribution to the toxic culture of police work in this country, they serve as shields for corrupt and brutal officers, and in fact seem to take doing so as their chief reason for existence.

Response to The Magistrate (Reply #18)

The Magistrate

(95,237 posts)
23. No, Sir
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 11:32 AM
Jul 2020

Incorrigibles have to be treated as incorrigibles.

Police unions devote far too much of their efforts to protecting brutal and corrupt members. Their idea of the 'best package' for police includes a license to maim and murder and steal without let or hindrance. So long as police will act against strikers and peaceable protestors, the idea police unions are part of any labor movement is a joke in poor taste.

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