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Mon Jul 6, 2020, 02:31 PM

Townhall: Let's Be Honest, There was Nothing Conservative About the Confederacy

I don't normally post articles from RW rags on here but this one really stood out.

But slavery and the short-lived Confederate States of America arenít sources of pride, nor do they need to be honored. Itís time to throw the Confederate flag on the ash heap of historyónot because the flag is ďpolitically incorrect,Ē but the battle flag of a country that no longer exists, representing people who so disliked the United States that they seceded and attempted to start something better. Itís hard to wave a Confederate flag and call yourself an American patriot.


https://townhall.com/columnists/ashleyherzog/2020/07/06/lets-be-honest-there-was-nothing-conservative-about-the-confederacy-n2571912

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Reply Townhall: Let's Be Honest, There was Nothing Conservative About the Confederacy (Original post)
Jake Stern Jul 6 OP
DBoon Jul 6 #1
Jake Stern Jul 6 #2
DBoon Jul 6 #3
lunatica Jul 6 #5
Cirque du So-What Jul 6 #4
keithbvadu2 Jul 6 #6
hatrack Jul 6 #7
AntiFascist Jul 6 #8

Response to Jake Stern (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 02:50 PM

1. Of course the Confederacy is conservative

Conservatism is about an unchanging, unchallenged social hierarchy. Those who rule are always meant to rule, those who serve were meant to serve.

Conservatism is a repudiation of the Enlightenment. There are no rights of man (humanity), only the divine rule of monarchs.

White Europeans believed they had an eternal right to rule over Black Africans. The Africans had no rights, only a duty to serve and submit. What could be more conservative than this key principle of the Confederacy?

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Response to DBoon (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 02:55 PM

2. The point is

when even a right wing rag says to chuck the confederate BS, the tide has definitely turned.

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Response to Jake Stern (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 02:57 PM

3. Yes, but like an evil twin brother

Still family, even if you disown them

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Response to Jake Stern (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 03:02 PM

5. I truly believed such entrenched human beliefs

would never allow the evolution of the tenets of brotherhood to take root. But suddenly such cherished beliefs of human hierarchical structures are being questioned on a large scale human basis. Is this new, or are we just now noticing it?

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Response to Jake Stern (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 03:00 PM

4. The confederacy is the epitome of conservatism

It was an exercise in trying to find justification for their selfishness. It was so conservative that it wandered into the reactionary when they didnít get their way.

I donít appreciate the authorís attempt to tie the confederacy to the Democratic Party, Occupy Wall Street, and antifa (whatever TF that is).

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Response to Jake Stern (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 07:19 PM

6. The Confederate flag supporters have co-opted the Nazi flag as partners.

The Confederate flag supporters have co-opted the Nazi flag as partners.

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Response to Jake Stern (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 07:39 PM

7. "something better"?

Yep, that sure sounds like Townhall . . .

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Response to Jake Stern (Original post)

Mon Jul 6, 2020, 08:11 PM

8. The play "Hamilton" really puts things into an interesting perspective...

or at least a good history lesson:

Thomas Jefferson is portrayed as a happy-go-lucky wealthy Southerner who wanted to protect the South's wealth from Hamilton's designs to get the nation out of debt due to the Revolutionary War, stressing that the reason for the accumulation of wealth was due to the profits resulting from slave labor. One problem with this type of capitalistic system has to do with stratification, where labor forces are kept oppressed. Sounds very "conservative" to me.

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