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kentuck

(110,950 posts)
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 02:22 PM Jul 2020

I believe Donald Trump may have received a message from McConnell and Republican leaders?

Either he gets his polls up by Labor Day or they will consider nominating someone else at their Convention, or will ask for him to resign?

They are all, including Trump, totally obsessed with the recent polls. Unless something changes, it could spell disaster for other Republicans running for office.

In my opinion, this will be Trump's total focus for the next two months.

The Republicans are not going to walk off the cliff with him without a parachute.

If Trump cannot deliver the votes for them, then he is of little use anymore.

Just my opinion.

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I believe Donald Trump may have received a message from McConnell and Republican leaders? (Original Post) kentuck Jul 2020 OP
This Perspective Overlooks that Trumpers Won't Show Up for Republicans Stallion Jul 2020 #1
100% EXACTLY, Stallion Leghorn21 Jul 2020 #8
That's true-- in fact, Trumpers might even rebel against standard Republicans. dawg day Jul 2020 #13
It's a no-win situation for them moose65 Jul 2020 #36
Mitch and his thugs will soon learn they are all toast. pwb Jul 2020 #2
No Chance sabbat hunter Jul 2020 #3
Maybe if he and his family got a 'Get out of jail free' card and a bigly national monument was... WyattKansas Jul 2020 #32
Gabe Sherman (Vanity Fair) has previously written that McTurtle has told his R Senators to do hlthe2b Jul 2020 #4
Which Will Make The Wounded Bull (s*** artist) Really Angry Me. Jul 2020 #7
One would assume they'd only do it if they see the polling debacle headed their way, so hlthe2b Jul 2020 #11
But Oh So Good For Dems Running Against Them Me. Jul 2020 #15
I am going to put in an order for super popcorn-- dawg day Jul 2020 #14
I Think August Is Going To Be A Good Month Me. Jul 2020 #16
Ms. Ghislaine Maxwell might be telling her story by then... dawg day Jul 2020 #17
There would be no point to that DrToast Jul 2020 #5
Trump is due to be nominated in August rsdsharp Jul 2020 #6
They simply cannot Still Sensible Jul 2020 #9
Everything Trump Dies-Including the Republican Party Stallion Jul 2020 #10
It is a cult. kentuck Jul 2020 #12
Nope. PTWB Jul 2020 #18
But if they are doomed to lose... kentuck Jul 2020 #19
oh please, you seem to think they have some conscience JI7 Jul 2020 #21
Stay with a Trump and several will lose. PTWB Jul 2020 #23
But what do they lose in 2022 and 2024. kentuck Jul 2020 #25
They're going demographically extinct anyway. PTWB Jul 2020 #29
I imagine a lot of the GOP establishment hates Trump Quixote1818 Jul 2020 #30
they are too cowardly to do even that. And trump would never be able JI7 Jul 2020 #20
They won't even go after him on the Russian bounty thing JI7 Jul 2020 #22
I don't think that they will dump him Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2020 #24
We will know when we see how many of them that are up for reelection ask trump to help them. marie999 Jul 2020 #26
Are there enough life boats on the Trumptanic? Zambero Jul 2020 #27
Nope, Trump's cult would burn the place down. Nt Quixote1818 Jul 2020 #28
Don't think so. kairos12 Jul 2020 #31
Lady G will go down with Trump.. ProudMNDemocrat Jul 2020 #33
They will already have nominated him by Labor Day... regnaD kciN Jul 2020 #34
The rats haven't left the ship yet chriscan64 Jul 2020 #35
"We don't wear our White hoods after Labor Day" struggle4progress Jul 2020 #37
Such a plan assumes that Trump's base would accept anything but a dog-whistling racist pecosbob Jul 2020 #38

Stallion

(6,473 posts)
1. This Perspective Overlooks that Trumpers Won't Show Up for Republicans
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 02:26 PM
Jul 2020

this would be an even bigger disaster for Republicans if they felt Deep State Republicans shafted Trump--it would be a wipe out

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
13. That's true-- in fact, Trumpers might even rebel against standard Republicans.
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 02:44 PM
Jul 2020

It's not like most of them care about the shredded 'values' of the GOP. They just worship Trump, and they will always see the GOP as insufficiently willing to turn over every dollar and resource and become the Trump Party. (And really, the GOP has done its best to be all-in for trump, but it's not enough worship for him or his cultists.)

moose65

(3,164 posts)
36. It's a no-win situation for them
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 08:53 PM
Jul 2020

Oh how sad for them 🙄🙄

If they stick with Trump, he’ll take them down with him. If they abandon Trump, he will turn his crazy base loose on them, and they’ll all go down along with Trump. To the rabid base, a turncoat Republican is the only thing worse than a Democrat.

What a delicious dilemma to watch.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
32. Maybe if he and his family got a 'Get out of jail free' card and a bigly national monument was...
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 03:51 PM
Jul 2020

Erected of him next to the White House. Donald Dumbass wants a statue with a Superman physique that stands taller than all other monuments and structures in the Capital. Preferably with his ass facing the White House.

hlthe2b

(101,715 posts)
4. Gabe Sherman (Vanity Fair) has previously written that McTurtle has told his R Senators to do
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 02:30 PM
Jul 2020

whatever they need to do after Labor Day--including presumedly countering/opposing Trump.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
7. Which Will Make The Wounded Bull (s*** artist) Really Angry
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 02:39 PM
Jul 2020

and he will go after those traitors

hlthe2b

(101,715 posts)
11. One would assume they'd only do it if they see the polling debacle headed their way, so
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 02:44 PM
Jul 2020

Trump's threats would be fairly empty.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
15. But Oh So Good For Dems Running Against Them
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 02:47 PM
Jul 2020

THe ads they could do....'see...not even a loser like trump thinks they're any good'

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
14. I am going to put in an order for super popcorn--
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 02:46 PM
Jul 2020

Because it is going to be so entertaining watching Trump tear into McConnell like McConnell's personally betrayed him.

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
17. Ms. Ghislaine Maxwell might be telling her story by then...
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 02:49 PM
Jul 2020

And even if not, Trump might be getting worried, and when he gets worried, he gets self-destructive.

DrToast

(6,414 posts)
5. There would be no point to that
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 02:32 PM
Jul 2020

The base choose Trump over McConnell every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Forcing Trump out unwillingly will be worse for Republicans.

Still Sensible

(2,870 posts)
9. They simply cannot
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 02:42 PM
Jul 2020

Trump is in full "messianic" control of at least half of the GOP base. The fury that particularly unhinged, gun-toting, Bible-thumping mob could and would do to any repukes that try to take him down cannot be overstated.

They are dealing with a cult here and they know it.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
23. Stay with a Trump and several will lose.
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 03:08 PM
Jul 2020

Abandon him and they all will.

They can’t afford to break with Trump when Trump’s base is so devoted to him. His base is their base.

kentuck

(110,950 posts)
25. But what do they lose in 2022 and 2024.
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 03:18 PM
Jul 2020

They could be wiped out permanently, if they stay with Trump. It looks like they are riding the horns of a dilemma.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
29. They're going demographically extinct anyway.
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 03:41 PM
Jul 2020

Their only play left is to suppress voters. Look at Kentucky where there was one polling place for several hundred thousand folks.

Quixote1818

(28,903 posts)
30. I imagine a lot of the GOP establishment hates Trump
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jul 2020

so they would like to see him trounced so they can go back to just being the party of money grubbers.

JI7

(89,174 posts)
20. they are too cowardly to do even that. And trump would never be able
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 03:05 PM
Jul 2020

to deal with it emotionally. he would be going off on Twitter against them.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,355 posts)
24. I don't think that they will dump him
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 03:16 PM
Jul 2020

I think that they may hope to distance themselves from him just enough to salvage their individual campaigns. Their challengers need to make sure that they are seen as the enablers that they have been since Trump's election.

Zambero

(8,954 posts)
27. Are there enough life boats on the Trumptanic?
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 03:32 PM
Jul 2020

The ship is sinking fast and it's a helluva long swim to shore. "Good luck!".

kairos12

(12,817 posts)
31. Don't think so.
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 03:47 PM
Jul 2020

The Republicans are ziptied to Chump just like those South Dakota chairs last night. No distancing.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,482 posts)
33. Lady G will go down with Trump..
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 04:08 PM
Jul 2020

Keeping things clean here.

Lindsey Graham is terrified most likely of what Trump might have on him. He will kiss add for as long as he needs to in order to keep his job.

regnaD kciN

(26,035 posts)
34. They will already have nominated him by Labor Day...
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 05:05 PM
Jul 2020

...and can't force him to withdraw from the race once he's nominated, as we learned four years ago. All they're saying is that, if he doesn't get his polls up, "he's on his own." In other words, downballot Republicans will concentrate on getting themselves elected, and will publicly disassociate from him if that will help their effort.

Sound familiar? That's exactly what Republicans said on October 9, 2016, after the "pussy-grabbing" tape leaked and it looked like Trump was a sure loser. Of course, within a few weeks, they came crawling back, and once he was elected they denied ever having doubted him.

It's just the usual spineless Republicanism, just amped up a bit: wrap yourself around Trump when he's doing well in the polls, then pronounce yourself "concerned" and "troubled" when he's not. It's all the usual Elephant Manure.

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
35. The rats haven't left the ship yet
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 05:25 PM
Jul 2020

but they are packing their bags. They want the election to do their dirty work, getting rid of him. We will hear stuff like, "We always had concerns about him", glossing over the obvious fact that they let him off the hook when all knew he was guilty.

pecosbob

(7,506 posts)
38. Such a plan assumes that Trump's base would accept anything but a dog-whistling racist
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 09:04 PM
Jul 2020

Trump's base is narrowing day by day as they double down again and again. Throw a Romney at them and they would not show up at the polls.

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