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Dr Fauci:US CV-19 outbreak perpetuated due to locking down at 50% vs European countries at 97% (Original Post) iluvtennis Jul 2020 OP
Well where were you, fauci? soothsayer Jul 2020 #1
It is a little late for him to point that out now, isn't it? nt crickets Jul 2020 #2
You think our orange leader listened to him? LisaL Jul 2020 #3
I know but they went along with it, imho soothsayer Jul 2020 #5
afraid llashram Jul 2020 #4
She's worse. But they both caved from pressure re: the economy soothsayer Jul 2020 #6
He's been there all along - he doesn't have the authority to shut down the country nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2020 #7
Point is, he has not always piped up when it mattered soothsayer Jul 2020 #9
And if he had piped up FreeState Jul 2020 #16
That's what I think. Too. If he had just said what he leftyladyfrommo Jul 2020 #18
And I realize he's been sidelined sometimes soothsayer Jul 2020 #10
Was never Trump's plan, chloroquinine JCMach1 Jul 2020 #8
there is truth to what u say as Peter Navarro was on MSNBC on Thursday touting chloroquine although iluvtennis Jul 2020 #12
I think trump/WH silenced Dr Fauci. You know trump/WH do not approve any US TV network requests iluvtennis Jul 2020 #11
Trying to save his own ass Raine Jul 2020 #13
I think that this point never gets much attention Proud Liberal Dem Jul 2020 #14
+ agree. nt iluvtennis Jul 2020 #15
He would've been straight out the door if he'd spoken up any louder than what he did. tavernier Jul 2020 #17
At least he often looked disgusted, unlike grinning Birx. Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2020 #19

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
3. You think our orange leader listened to him?
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:01 PM
Jul 2020

We never locked down fully and we opened up too soon. One didn't have to be a rocket scientist to see the results coming.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
4. afraid
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:03 PM
Jul 2020

of getting his fuhrer at him. I mean he did and has said the right thing periodically, just not consistently. He did what his fuhrer allowed him to do. Where is Dr. Brix? Haven't heard much from her, but same deal as Fauci probably.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
9. Point is, he has not always piped up when it mattered
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:35 PM
Jul 2020

His silence— or watered down messaging — came across as approval of opening up too soon.

He’s guilty on original mask guidance, but he realizes now that that hurt the effort.

FreeState

(10,570 posts)
16. And if he had piped up
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 04:53 PM
Jul 2020

Last edited Sat Jul 4, 2020, 05:42 PM - Edit history (1)

He would have been fired and replaced by an unqualified lackey. Damned if you do damned if you don’t.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,866 posts)
18. That's what I think. Too. If he had just said what he
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 04:59 PM
Jul 2020

Thought abd wanted to say he simply would ve been replaced.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
10. And I realize he's been sidelined sometimes
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:40 PM
Jul 2020

Maybe he doesn’t risk expulsion from the task force because he’s the only sane voice.

Idk, I like him, and it’s probably asking too much for him to risk his job just to try to save thousands of lives.

But he’s speaking up again, albeit to other countries.

iluvtennis

(19,835 posts)
12. there is truth to what u say as Peter Navarro was on MSNBC on Thursday touting chloroquine although
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 04:04 PM
Jul 2020

FDA and WHO and EU have all deemed it ineffective for treatment of CV-19.

iluvtennis

(19,835 posts)
11. I think trump/WH silenced Dr Fauci. You know trump/WH do not approve any US TV network requests
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 04:00 PM
Jul 2020

for Dr Fauci to be interviewed. Have heard it reported numerous times on CNN and MSNBC over last several weeks.

I believe Fauci acquiesced to trump to remain on the CV task force as he knew he needed to be there for the sake of the nation.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
13. Trying to save his own ass
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 04:11 PM
Jul 2020

apparently ... now he says something but was silent when he shouldn't have been.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)
14. I think that this point never gets much attention
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 04:12 PM
Jul 2020

Not only did we "re-open" too early (which some state were very reckless about) we were never actually in a state of total lockdown in this country and, as such, what we did wasn't very effective in controlling spread in the early days of this pandemic and that it's even more disingenuous to complain about how bad it was that we had to be locked down at all.

tavernier

(12,369 posts)
17. He would've been straight out the door if he'd spoken up any louder than what he did.
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 04:56 PM
Jul 2020

And replaced by another Birx, even weaker.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,852 posts)
19. At least he often looked disgusted, unlike grinning Birx.
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 05:02 PM
Jul 2020

She FINALLY looked perturbed over him suggesting the injection of disinfectants, but later "Birxsplained" that behavior too... as him thinking out loud when presented with new ideas.

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