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Nancy Sinatra says Frank loathed Trump... (Original Post)
Drunken Irishman
Jul 2020
OP
Not always. But one thing Frank hated the most were racists people and he had Trump's number.
rusty quoin
Jul 2020
#8
ornotna
(10,799 posts)1. I'm in good company then
sheshe2
(83,745 posts)2. ;)
Skittles
(153,147 posts)3. I don't doubt it
I'm betting Frank was a good judge of character.
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)8. Not always. But one thing Frank hated the most were racists people and he had Trump's number.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,393 posts)9. Sinatra and the Mob
Features
Sinatra and the Mob
June 2005 | Anthony Summers, Robbyn Swan
{snip}
The aging Luciano had a large collection of Sinatra records. Ensconced in his apartment on the Via Tasso, in Naples, he listened to them often. "They were very fond of each other," said Rizzo. "And, for Sinatra, Luciano had a lot of respect."
The dallying with the Mafia in Cuba was part of a lasting pattern. By 1948, Frank's involvement with criminals was woven into the fabric of his life and career. "I'd known these people all my life," Frank's daughter Nancy wrote years later. "I've sat with them talking about their families.... Then I'd hear their names in the news and I'd say to myself, 'Oh my God. This one's under investigation for tax evasion.' Or, 'That one's just been questioned in a murder.'"
Martin Jurow, who produced the classic movies Breakfast at Tiffany's and Terms of Endearment, was the William Morris Agency's man in New York when From Here to Eternity was being cast in 1952. Half a century later he told how a William Morris colleague, George Wood, had brought Frank into his office. Wood explained that Frank was there to discuss his foundering career the destructive relationship with Ava Gardner had brought him to the brink of ruinand wondered if Jurow had any suggestions. Wood, Jurow knew, was close to the " 'quiet investors' [who] were willing to pay entertainers large fees for performing in their Las Vegas clubs"in other words, the mobsters. Wood had been "connected" since Prohibition days, and was close to Frank Costello and Meyer Lansky.
Jurow looked carefully at Frank as he came into the room. Some of the old cockiness remained, but he seemed dispirited, almost desperate. When Jurow said finding him a prestigious film role would get him out of the doldrums, Frank said gloomily that there was small chance of that. Jurow, however, knew something Frank did not that Fred Zinnemann was still looking for the right actor to play Private Angelo Maggio in From Here to Eternity. Frank looked the part, a loser trying to put on a brave face, and Jurow put his name forward. Zinnemann expressed interest. Harry Cohn, however, reacted with characteristic coarseness. Yelling into the phone, he said he would not have "that bum" Sinatra in his studio.
Hours after being turned down, Jurow went to see Wood at his apartment on Central Park South. There, as he put it 50 years later, "something fantastic occurred." He found Wood, not for the first time, ensconced with "Jimmy Blue Eyes" Alo, the mafioso and key member of the old Luciano syndicate. Alo had a low profile but a great deal of power. He knew Frank and his family so well, an associate said, that Frank regarded him as "his closest friend in that realm." He was an intimate of Frank's East Coast manager, Henri Giné, though that was something Giné went to great pains to keep quiet. Alo had a stake in the William Morris Agency, had known Wood since the 1930s, and visited him almost every day.
{snip}
Sinatra and the Mob
June 2005 | Anthony Summers, Robbyn Swan
{snip}
The aging Luciano had a large collection of Sinatra records. Ensconced in his apartment on the Via Tasso, in Naples, he listened to them often. "They were very fond of each other," said Rizzo. "And, for Sinatra, Luciano had a lot of respect."
The dallying with the Mafia in Cuba was part of a lasting pattern. By 1948, Frank's involvement with criminals was woven into the fabric of his life and career. "I'd known these people all my life," Frank's daughter Nancy wrote years later. "I've sat with them talking about their families.... Then I'd hear their names in the news and I'd say to myself, 'Oh my God. This one's under investigation for tax evasion.' Or, 'That one's just been questioned in a murder.'"
Martin Jurow, who produced the classic movies Breakfast at Tiffany's and Terms of Endearment, was the William Morris Agency's man in New York when From Here to Eternity was being cast in 1952. Half a century later he told how a William Morris colleague, George Wood, had brought Frank into his office. Wood explained that Frank was there to discuss his foundering career the destructive relationship with Ava Gardner had brought him to the brink of ruinand wondered if Jurow had any suggestions. Wood, Jurow knew, was close to the " 'quiet investors' [who] were willing to pay entertainers large fees for performing in their Las Vegas clubs"in other words, the mobsters. Wood had been "connected" since Prohibition days, and was close to Frank Costello and Meyer Lansky.
Jurow looked carefully at Frank as he came into the room. Some of the old cockiness remained, but he seemed dispirited, almost desperate. When Jurow said finding him a prestigious film role would get him out of the doldrums, Frank said gloomily that there was small chance of that. Jurow, however, knew something Frank did not that Fred Zinnemann was still looking for the right actor to play Private Angelo Maggio in From Here to Eternity. Frank looked the part, a loser trying to put on a brave face, and Jurow put his name forward. Zinnemann expressed interest. Harry Cohn, however, reacted with characteristic coarseness. Yelling into the phone, he said he would not have "that bum" Sinatra in his studio.
Hours after being turned down, Jurow went to see Wood at his apartment on Central Park South. There, as he put it 50 years later, "something fantastic occurred." He found Wood, not for the first time, ensconced with "Jimmy Blue Eyes" Alo, the mafioso and key member of the old Luciano syndicate. Alo had a low profile but a great deal of power. He knew Frank and his family so well, an associate said, that Frank regarded him as "his closest friend in that realm." He was an intimate of Frank's East Coast manager, Henri Giné, though that was something Giné went to great pains to keep quiet. Alo had a stake in the William Morris Agency, had known Wood since the 1930s, and visited him almost every day.
{snip}
localroger
(3,626 posts)10. Frank had real mob connections which he worked subtly
Frank would have seen Trump as a wanna-be poseur with no real connections or skill.
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)13. He Was Pals With Giancanna, Too!
That relationship was used in getting show biz endorsements & performances that helped get JFK the 1960 nomination over Humphrey.
Norbert
(6,039 posts)4. The Chairman had one 'business deal' with dump.
orleans
(34,049 posts)5. why does mia say that? did trump reference sinatra lately?
or use one of his songs at mt. rushmore?
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)6. I follow her on Twitter
since she is pretty liberal and her son is too. Since she was married to Frank and had a relationship with him for years and years, she should know how he felt about certain things.
Drunken Irishman
(34,857 posts)7. I think he did. Not sure what he said as I didn't watch.
Grins
(7,212 posts)11. So did Reagan. Esp. Nancy. NM
Initech
(100,063 posts)12. Wasn't there a story where Frank was scheduled to do a gig at Taj Mahal?
I think I remember the story was that Trump screwed him over and wasn't going to pay what he said he was going to. And then Frank pulled out of the gig.
JHB
(37,158 posts)14. see the link in #4 above