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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTo my American Friends, Happy Independence Day from the country who really won the war!
Hope you have a safe and glorious time; however, as you celebrate your Independence Day, I have to insist we Brits really won the war. You see, looking back, all our religious right wing nuts headed over to the Americas for the freedom to establish a puritan land post Cromwell, where they could burn witches, condemn any free thought and lead a land based on the bible. Granted the founders were truly clear that there should be separation of church and state, but that did nothing to stop those religious loons being the arseholes they were and are. And so we really won the war, as all those nuts that could have infected British society with their loonery ended up in America instead, and the result is these religious right wing nuts holding a gun in one hand with the bible in the other, crying about having to wear masks and discriminating against pretty much everyone cause Jesus and Trump. We have our problems, but thankfully that is not one of them. Thanks America, you may have won the actual war, but thanks to the American religious right and their stooge in the White house, we won the culture war! Hehehe.
Truly though, have a great holiday
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)Greatest performance by the greatest rock band of all time and the greatest front-man and songwriter and singer of all time.
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)My best mate at Uni's mother was his manager before he died. So many funny stories.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)Do you have any?
I saw them live, Winterland, Bohemian Rhapsody tour
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)Her Mum had just got him as a client and Freddie came out of the closet toilet in their house. My friend pointed at him and said oh look mummy Freddie just came out of the closet. Mummy was not pleased!!! LOL. Of course there are better ones but not going to spill. Not my place. Told in confidence and after Freddie had died
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)as their routines.
I guess when I said "dish" it implied gossip but as a fan and musician myself, they fascinate me
Adam Lambert is GREAT with them now, would love to see them again.
irisblue
(32,933 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)I think that time is past, but you never know, if Trump takes it to the end degree, anything may be possible!!!
CanonRay
(14,088 posts)you may get some of us back...
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)Hope you and the missus are still keeping safe. Give her my love
CanonRay
(14,088 posts)LunaSea
(2,892 posts)Jesus is on the on one of the moons of Uranus.
And wants you all to visit him right away.
I swear.
Skittles
(153,122 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)Skittles
(153,122 posts)she LOVED that kind of decadent humor, LOL
Dagstead Bumwood
(3,599 posts)his independence from that Speedo.
Skittles
(153,122 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,583 posts)MustLoveBeagles
(11,583 posts)CanonRay
(14,088 posts)Chainfire
(17,474 posts)Do us a favor, take Trump for the next few months. Maybe we could take Brexit during that time. It would be good for you guys because you could see, and appreciate, what you have been missing, and good for us so that we could catch our breaths for a moment.
Skittles
(153,122 posts)it's not like the Brits don't have their hands full with Boris
ornotna
(10,795 posts)Yeah baby! You did win the culture war.
Skittles
(153,122 posts)YER KILLING ME
Soph0571
(9,685 posts)denem
(11,045 posts)Soph0571
(9,685 posts)I mean you all made us give up the Empire to join defeating fascism. Cause just defeating fascism was not enough. Again we win the culture war. Just sayin'
denem
(11,045 posts)It was Clement Attlee's government, after the war had ended, that gave up the empire. The decision to set free India, the jewel in the crown, was Britain's and Britain's alone. In contrast, France chose to cling onto Algeria and Vietnam.
Steelrolled
(2,022 posts)In America we would call this a "win-win" outcome.
Crunchy Frog
(26,578 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,488 posts)Y'all had Thatcher, Cameron, Osborne, Michael Gove and Boris Johnson (featuring Dominic Cummings)...to name a few.
We've had Nixon & Agnew, Reagan, 2X Bushes, Cheney, and now the Orange Shitgibbon (featuring Stephen Miller).....to name a few.
At this time, I think it's a draw.......
KY.........
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)See link: https://www.history.com/news/were-witches-burned-at-the-stake-during-the-salem-witch-trials
Also Robert Heinlein covers that topic in his book Job: A Comedy Of Justice.
see link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job:_A_Comedy_of_Justice
Soph, what are we gonna do with you...
NBachers
(17,085 posts)First Speaker
(4,858 posts)...in England itself, the Crown almost certainly would have retained more power over the next 200 years than it did in our reality. Nothing like the pre-1688 monarchy; but it would have functioned as the "executive", in a very real sense, longer than it did in the "real" world. Class differences would probably been stronger even than they were. Despite this, Britain would have moved towards democracy--but almost certainly slower than it actually did. In America, we, too, would have been more of a class-conscious society, more like Canada, with Sirs and Lords and Ladies. But also without phenomena like the Ku Klux Klan and Prohibition and the Mafia--such things simply wouldn't have been tolerated. It is likely, too, that slavery would have *probably* died out without the blood sacrifice we paid. As for the Anglo-American codominion that would have resulted...who knows. A British victory might have triggered the French Revolution even sooner, had the French devoted the resources they did to defeating the British they did in our world. But since the Brits beat Napoleon via a coalition, even with America as Bonaparte's de facto allies, it seems hard to believe it would have been *harder* with America as their allies. In such a world, with either a joint Parliament, or perhaps one in London and one in Philadelphia, America would have become an equal partner to the Mother Country quicker than it did in our world. It's even possible that a Pax Anglo-America would have risen, stronger and more enduring than the British Empire was "here". In the best-case scenario, we'd be living today in that Imperium, under a more strait-laced democracy still possessing "Victorian" values. Though of course, they'd have problems and tensions of their own...
roamer65
(36,744 posts)Its in convulsions now.
what Vlad wanted, unless we change his plan around.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)This was kicked into gear mainly under Ronnie Raygun and his service economy bullshit.
bdamomma
(63,803 posts)about Vlad now he's putting his two cents in.
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/europe/europe-top-stories/putin-mocks-us-embassy-for-flying-rainbow-flag/ar-BB16k124?li=BBKxOg5&ocid=mailsignout
roamer65
(36,744 posts)I would not cry at all if Putin met his end.
Aristus
(66,294 posts)I think Australia got the better of the bargain...