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Fair warning... (Original Post) sheshe2 Jul 2020 OP
K&R Solly Mack Jul 2020 #1
wow thats great. I stay home every day..I have everything i need right here! samnsara Jul 2020 #2
That's kind extreme only like 1 in 20 dies from doc03 Jul 2020 #3
Would you fly an airline where only 1 in 20 planes crashes? Hekate Jul 2020 #4
Right now I wouldn't fly in an airplane if doc03 Jul 2020 #5
Even before COVID-19, seemed like every time I flew, I'd come away with some sort of bronchial sop Jul 2020 #10
I'm right there with you, Doc03. Texin Jul 2020 #41
It's like playing Russian Roulette. StarryNite Jul 2020 #6
How many will they spread the virus to? sheshe2 Jul 2020 #8
the overall mortality rate is nowhere near 5%, especially for the youngest half of the population Celerity Jul 2020 #21
Unless you're 1 of the 20..... paleotn Jul 2020 #22
Recent article said many organs now. sheshe2 Jul 2020 #28
I Have Seen People Make Their Point When It's Three, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2020 #23
Death is not the only serious consequence. Salviati Jul 2020 #30
What worries me is all the physical problems of the "recovered" victims. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2020 #31
Yep!!! There are going to be massively desperate people in the country as this continues ... RKP5637 Jul 2020 #7
Yes, it's not going to be safe Andy823 Jul 2020 #9
You mean "without a mask" I hope... ❤ nt littlemissmartypants Jul 2020 #11
Yep Andy823 Jul 2020 #16
Definitely not going anywhere. I am, however, prepping for mitigation littlemissmartypants Jul 2020 #12
They have been setting them off here since Memorial Day. sheshe2 Jul 2020 #37
I never shower during thunderstorms and lately we've had some doozies. littlemissmartypants Jul 2020 #38
I live 30 minutes from the beach Fritz Walter Jul 2020 #13
OMG...45th Anniversary of Jaws.... sheshe2 Jul 2020 #15
Here's the terrifying video that goes with the warning Thekaspervote Jul 2020 #14
Saw that. sheshe2 Jul 2020 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Jul 2020 #19
This should be required viewing for all the deniers and hoaxers who think it LuckyLib Jul 2020 #20
I have no plans at all. lpbk2713 Jul 2020 #17
Good advice. brer cat Jul 2020 #24
And then they'll blame Democrats when they get sick. madamesilverspurs Jul 2020 #25
And then they'll expect us to socialize their medical care for just them when they get sick. NBachers Jul 2020 #27
ikr?! brer cat Jul 2020 #29
Simple and Important marieo1 Jul 2020 #26
You as well, marieo1. sheshe2 Jul 2020 #32
I kind of want to see August first soldierant Jul 2020 #33
Happy soon to be 75 Birthday! sheshe2 Jul 2020 #35
Thank you! soldierant Jul 2020 #48
Wow that is incredibly heavy. We all will be infected? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #34
Wow, Laura, such a surprise to see you here! sheshe2 Jul 2020 #36
Isn't Doing So Also A Sign Of Respect for The Lives Of Other Beings? Me. Jul 2020 #42
Yes it is, Me. sheshe2 Jul 2020 #43
Of course! Me too Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #54
WTF? Your statement that we would never see August made Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #50
Not at all what my post said. sheshe2 Jul 2020 #51
Huh? Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #52
The correct response to my post is.. thank you for recognizing the pain of your fathers loss. sheshe2 Jul 2020 #55
NO the correct response is for you to clarify and substantiate. Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #58
Ok. So nothing about my condolences about your dad you said died of COVID. sheshe2 Jul 2020 #59
Oh Lordy, this had nothing to do with me or my dad. And thanks Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #60
That's an odd take on such a simple message mcar Jul 2020 #44
What? Odd take? The post said we would never see August! Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #53
OP doesn't say that at all. Please reread. la-trucker Jul 2020 #45
The post says we will never see August! Do you realize how Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #56
I wish you had not taken it so literally. la-trucker Jul 2020 #62
I'll go to the cemetery and that's about it Awsi Dooger Jul 2020 #39
Hugs to you, Awsi. sheshe2 Jul 2020 #49
❤️.. my one grandma was born on Christmas and the Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #57
this llashram Jul 2020 #40
Stay safe. nt sheshe2 Jul 2020 #47
K&R! nt TexasTowelie Jul 2020 #46
Can always tell when there is zero rationale or substantiation! Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2020 #61
Unfortunately there was a massive amount of party's Saturday Polybius Jul 2020 #63

sop

(10,167 posts)
10. Even before COVID-19, seemed like every time I flew, I'd come away with some sort of bronchial
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:04 PM
Jul 2020

condition that would last for days. I wouldn't fly commercial right now for anything.

Texin

(2,596 posts)
41. I'm right there with you, Doc03.
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 10:29 AM
Jul 2020

I used to love flying. Jeebus, I haven't liked getting on a plane - any airline or jet - since 2001. It's just too uncomfortable and packed to travel anymore. They figured out they could shrink the seats and jam yet more passengers into a tube and subject everyone to abject torture.

StarryNite

(9,444 posts)
6. It's like playing Russian Roulette.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:53 PM
Jul 2020

When will the bullet go off? No way of predicting. Playing with a loaded gun is not a smart idea. But hey, you might just shoot yourself in the foot and not actually die from it.

sheshe2

(83,747 posts)
8. How many will they spread the virus to?
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:00 PM
Jul 2020

Trump says the case #'s are Great News! We are testing better than any country combined. No Trump, you dumb POS IT IS SPREADING EVERYWHERE!

Celerity

(43,333 posts)
21. the overall mortality rate is nowhere near 5%, especially for the youngest half of the population
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:59 PM
Jul 2020

Here in Sweden, with basically no lock-down and the all the under-high school level schools never closed we have had one death under 20, and that was a 4 year old a couple months back with multiple comorbidities. Zero deaths in the 5 years old to 20yo age group, and a total of 26 deaths under 40 years of age (half the entire population). 26 deaths out of over 4 million people. 1 per 154,000 rate. Around 99% of the deaths here have been over 50 years of age, 96% over 60 years of age, 89% over 70 years of age. 68% were over 80yo, 26% of all COVID-19 deaths were over 90 tears of age.

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

In the US, due to a lack of testing and asymptomatic, a very conservative number would be 6 million cases. at a 5% death rate that works out to 300,00, not the 130,000 it actually is. I think it is likely that 10 million people in the US have had it, making a mortality rate of around 1.3%, and that rate is massively skewed to the over 45yo cohorts (especially the over 55yo ones.) The US does have a very slightly higher death rate for the under 40yo, under 35yo cohorts than Sweden does, but that is easily explained as the average US citizen is more unhealthy and has poorer healthcare than an average Swede is and does.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
22. Unless you're 1 of the 20.....
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 06:00 PM
Jul 2020

Good odds when it comes to being pulled over for speeding. Not so good when the outcome is death. And it's not just your own death you have to worry about. The disease can cause serious complications including lung damage.

sheshe2

(83,747 posts)
28. Recent article said many organs now.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 06:36 PM
Jul 2020

Heart, liver, kidneys, brain along with lungs that may never allow you to regain your old life. An athlete...no more. Run up stairs, no more.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
23. I Have Seen People Make Their Point When It's Three, Sir
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 06:03 PM
Jul 2020

One in twenty is about where I start paying attention to risk....

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
30. Death is not the only serious consequence.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 06:47 PM
Jul 2020

The one person I know that wound up seriously hit by it, wound up in the hospital, on a ventilator for a few weeks. He's since recovered and is at home now, but suffered nerve damage in his arm, it was down to 20% function, and may get back up to 90% after a year of recovery.

Just because it doesn't kill you, doesn't mean you're going to get off scot free.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
31. What worries me is all the physical problems of the "recovered" victims.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 07:06 PM
Jul 2020


Long list of major organ damages, brain damage, are now showing up.
Docs are finding blood clots everywhere they look in autopsies.

This thing is worse nightmare.

And how the hell have Pence and trump remained free of it when so many around them are getting sick.?

RKP5637

(67,106 posts)
7. Yep!!! There are going to be massively desperate people in the country as this continues ...
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:55 PM
Jul 2020

those that absolutely can't stay home ... and the millions that have given up that are not even counted in unemployment statistics ... all the paycheck to paycheck people, no income ... on and on. I don't hear of much to address this. And this administration is riding by the seat of their pants ... they have no idea how the F to handle this as it continues.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
9. Yes, it's not going to be safe
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:04 PM
Jul 2020

I go do my major shopping every two weeks. If I need really need something in between, I go to the local store at 6:30 in the morning. Very few people at that time.

I have plenty to do at home. I take care of my garden, have been doing some remodeling, and have to start pruning some tree limbs out of several trees the wind broke.

And I never leave home without a mask. I have one or more in every vehicle. No way would I go out this weekend, or any other weekend, to a gathering of people I don't know who are celebrating by getting drunk and setting of fireworks!

littlemissmartypants

(22,632 posts)
11. You mean "without a mask" I hope... ❤ nt
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:14 PM
Jul 2020
And I never leave home with a mask. I have one or more in every vehicle.

littlemissmartypants

(22,632 posts)
12. Definitely not going anywhere. I am, however, prepping for mitigation
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:21 PM
Jul 2020

of pup fear once the fireworks start, which is around 9 pm. We'll all be snuggled up to ride out the shivering. Poor dears. I hate it for them. I wish I had some doggo earplugs.

Happy Fourth, sheshe2.

❤ lmsp


sheshe2

(83,747 posts)
37. They have been setting them off here since Memorial Day.
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 01:16 AM
Jul 2020

Go figure.

Keep your babies calm.

PS...all last week we have had horrific thunderstorms with hail slamming the windows. Some of the cracks were frightening. I postponed showering until it was over.

littlemissmartypants

(22,632 posts)
38. I never shower during thunderstorms and lately we've had some doozies.
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 04:00 AM
Jul 2020

My chihuahua hates them. So far we've been doing fine. I'm guessing the actual night of the fourth, later today, will be the worst. I'm hoping not. We'll see.

Happy 4th, sheshe2.



❤ lmsp

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
13. I live 30 minutes from the beach
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:24 PM
Jul 2020

But, a team of horses couldn’t drag me there tomorrow! Even with face masks and social distancing — not to mention the 45th anniversary of the release of “Jaws” — there’s no way I’m going anywhere near that particular COVID incubator!

Y’all have a safe Independence Day weekend!

sheshe2

(83,747 posts)
15. OMG...45th Anniversary of Jaws....
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:28 PM
Jul 2020
not to mention the 45th anniversary of the release of “Jaws” — there’s no way I’m going anywhere near that particular COVID incubator!


And a 45th in charge. What could possibly go wrong?

Thekaspervote

(32,757 posts)
14. Here's the terrifying video that goes with the warning
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:27 PM
Jul 2020

As a retired nurse my heart aches for these health professionals


?s=21

sheshe2

(83,747 posts)
18. Saw that.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:35 PM
Jul 2020

Heart breaking.

My sister and mom, both retired nurses. My mom will be 94 in 2 weeks. We are trying to keep her safe at home. My niece, an active ICU nurse. They had one ICU...they have taken over three floors now, rented more morgue space. This is not a large hospital.

Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #14)

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
20. This should be required viewing for all the deniers and hoaxers who think it
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 05:52 PM
Jul 2020

won't happen to them.

Between the stupid in this country and the lack of leadership at the national level, a perfect storm has emerged. So sad.

brer cat

(24,560 posts)
24. Good advice.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 06:16 PM
Jul 2020

Democrats will heed it, republicans will party in large groups with no one wearing a mask.

soldierant

(6,847 posts)
33. I kind of want to see August first
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:22 PM
Jul 2020

since I expect to be 75 that day.

I also stay home every day. I don't even pick up my mail on my own property more than once a week.

sheshe2

(83,747 posts)
36. Wow, Laura, such a surprise to see you here!
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 12:20 AM
Jul 2020

Fact is if you go out to the beach with a thousand other people you may well be infected. Go party at a bar, no protection, yep most likely you will be infected and bring it home to you and yours. Then it passes on to others and so on and so on. It is called the spread and that is why cases are escalating.

I never leave the house without mask, gloves and sanitizer. I do my best to protect me and mine and others that I come in contact with.

The ICU director that said this, it is a dire warning that they are understaffed and at full capacity. If you for a moment think this admin is prepared for a second onslaught, then you are kidding yourself. They weren't prepared for the first, I know this as my relative works in ICU...no PPE only raincoats and one mask a day for an 18 hour shift.

Snark is not necessary, care for those you come in contact with are dire. Protection goes both ways.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
42. Isn't Doing So Also A Sign Of Respect for The Lives Of Other Beings?
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 10:49 AM
Jul 2020

"I never leave the house without mask, gloves and sanitizer. I do my best to protect me and mine and others that I come in contact with"

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
50. WTF? Your statement that we would never see August made
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 11:29 PM
Jul 2020

It sound like they were saying everyone would be dead by August.

I need absolutely zero guidance on the right thing to do is. My dad died because the hospital in Hartford put him in a nursing rehab for his back.

sheshe2

(83,747 posts)
51. Not at all what my post said.
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 11:57 PM
Jul 2020

On the other hand I will give my deepest sympathy to your dad and you that he died in a nursing rehab facility of COVID. It should never have happened.

I am truly sorry for your loss.

sheshe2

(83,747 posts)
59. Ok. So nothing about my condolences about your dad you said died of COVID.
Sun Jul 5, 2020, 01:37 AM
Jul 2020

Instead you attack.

Here.

If you are (not you) are stupid enough to ignore all that health officials are saying then many will never see 08/01.





This is what the ICU director was talking about. They never said all would die, though many will and will continue to spread it. Then more die after having spread it some more. So on and so on.


We will see 130K tonight.

I want to see August 1st. I will be staying at home as I protect a 93 year old, as I have for 2 and a half years. We kept her here and have kept her safe.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
60. Oh Lordy, this had nothing to do with me or my dad. And thanks
Sun Jul 5, 2020, 02:11 AM
Jul 2020

So much for saying " you say" he died. How kind of you.

This has nothing to do with the horror we are living in nor the uber precautions that many of us our taking.

It only has to do with ONE simple thing...you quoting an unnamed source that we will never see August.


 

la-trucker

(283 posts)
45. OP doesn't say that at all. Please reread.
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 03:41 PM
Jul 2020

The ones who will get infected are the ones who don't use masks and eye shields and who don't follow social distancing.

It is a very simple message.

 

la-trucker

(283 posts)
62. I wish you had not taken it so literally.
Tue Jul 7, 2020, 12:05 PM
Jul 2020

Hyperbole is an accepted method to alarm people into safety.

Not every smoker gets lung cancer -- but we warn people that they will get it -- right?

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
39. I'll go to the cemetery and that's about it
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 04:09 AM
Jul 2020

July 4th was my dad's birthday so I always go to the cemetery in the afternoon, and then pretend the fireworks are celebrating the date of his birth. That was always the family joke.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
57. ❤️.. my one grandma was born on Christmas and the
Sun Jul 5, 2020, 12:27 AM
Jul 2020

other died on Christmas. So know EXACTLY what you mean Awsi.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
61. Can always tell when there is zero rationale or substantiation!
Mon Jul 6, 2020, 11:35 PM
Jul 2020

An unnamed source says we won't see August.

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