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Kid Berwyn

(14,790 posts)
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:45 AM Jul 2020

Trump wants America to die.

Otherwise, we’d have a national strategy to fight the plague.

A strategy would include nationwide plans for:

1. Stopping the spread of the disease.
2. Treating the afflicted.
3. Protecting the healthy.
4. Protecting the healthcare infrastructure (hospitals, clinics, transportation, equipment).
5. Protecting healthcare professionals (physicians, nurses, specialists, technicians, staff).
6. Preserving the economy (communities, people, workers, employers, companies, banks, etc.).
7. Recovery and reopening businesses, schools, arts, sports, culture and the rest of national life.

What else would a National strategy need to do to defeat Covid-19?

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Trump wants America to die. (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Jul 2020 OP
He and Moscow Mitch are probably under direct orders from Putin on how to handle this plague. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2020 #1
Based on reality, yes. Kid Berwyn Jul 2020 #3
I would add as number 8: thucythucy Jul 2020 #2
That might be #3. Kid Berwyn Jul 2020 #7
I've been wondering what he, and the Republicans really want. I think chaos is their goal. If people jalan48 Jul 2020 #4
Yes, that is very possibly the agenda. A side benefit to them would also be killing off old people, RKP5637 Jul 2020 #10
Disaster for Democracy Kid Berwyn Jul 2020 #19
+1 She makes more sense than 99% of the pundits today. Instead of just reporting the panic (it's jalan48 Jul 2020 #21
Absolutely. Kid Berwyn Jul 2020 #22
I dispise republicans I_UndergroundPanther Jul 2020 #23
At the minimal, absolute minimal, could be a national strategy on masks. We need national RKP5637 Jul 2020 #5
Wearing masks universally might knock off 4/5 cases. 80%. Kid Berwyn Jul 2020 #24
K&R!!! And it makes logical sense! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2020 #26
"If I can't have you, nobody can!" gratuitous Jul 2020 #6
+1 2naSalit Jul 2020 #14
The Divine Right of Morons Kid Berwyn Jul 2020 #25
Collecting bounties is hard work. GeorgeGist Jul 2020 #8
We are all Puerto Ricans now. Kid Berwyn Jul 2020 #27
Yup. We don't love him enough, so we deserve to be punished. RockRaven Jul 2020 #9
That's it exactly. We should be thanking him, his words. SammyWinstonJack Jul 2020 #12
That is exactly it and he said so at the very same time 2naSalit Jul 2020 #15
That sentiment is fully endorsed by: Newest Reality Jul 2020 #11
That picture makes me think 2naSalit Jul 2020 #16
He does want us to die. StarryNite Jul 2020 #13
I don't think he puts enough thought into it to "want" it JHB Jul 2020 #17
Narcissistic Devaluation alittlelark Jul 2020 #18
Exactly! nt Andy823 Jul 2020 #20

thucythucy

(8,038 posts)
2. I would add as number 8:
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:50 AM
Jul 2020

protecting those most at risk: elders, people with disabilities, people with pre-existing conditions.

This would NOT include trying to eliminate ObamaCare.

Kid Berwyn

(14,790 posts)
7. That might be #3.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:52 AM
Jul 2020

Eliminating Obamacare right now is a tell, if not a declaration of war upon the American people.

jalan48

(13,840 posts)
4. I've been wondering what he, and the Republicans really want. I think chaos is their goal. If people
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:50 AM
Jul 2020

happen to die it's considered collateral damage. Milton Friedman and other disaster capitalism adherents know the best time to make major changes to a society is when the citizens are in a state of chaotic panic. When the chaos subsides they wake up to a new order.

RKP5637

(67,084 posts)
10. Yes, that is very possibly the agenda. A side benefit to them would also be killing off old people,
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:56 AM
Jul 2020

those with health problems and the poor plus immigrants thus lowering in the eyes of the GOP the cost of doing business. The GOP is today pretty much a collection of sadists. The don't give a damn about the country or the people, and their bottom line is $$$$$'s for them.

Kid Berwyn

(14,790 posts)
19. Disaster for Democracy
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:25 PM
Jul 2020

Is good for the prepared capitalist.

Defining our current situation, Naomi Klein gives us hope...

jalan48

(13,840 posts)
21. +1 She makes more sense than 99% of the pundits today. Instead of just reporting the panic (it's
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:35 PM
Jul 2020

great for ratings!) she tells us why the panic is happening and what's behind it.

Kid Berwyn

(14,790 posts)
22. Absolutely.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:42 PM
Jul 2020

Last edited Fri Jul 3, 2020, 01:52 PM - Edit history (1)

Naomi Klein is a real journalist: she tells the truth.

The only business mentioned by name in the Constitution is the free press, in the First Amendment. The Founders knew the truth is essential for democracy to survive and for the republic to thrive.

Royalty, dictators and authoritarians don’t appreciate the People knowing what’s going on, let alone well-educated. Reagan and his ilk want to defund education and undermine the liberal press. Few if any can operate a crime syndicate when the mopes are forewarned.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
23. I dispise republicans
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 01:37 PM
Jul 2020

And every single asshole who supports and believes thier free market neo liberal shit.

To me the neo liberal capitalist narcissists must be barred from power forever. Make it impossible for them to be elected to anything.

Most people are not neoliberal asshats.

Defang declaw and neuter all the predatory capitalists forever.

RKP5637

(67,084 posts)
5. At the minimal, absolute minimal, could be a national strategy on masks. We need national
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:51 AM
Jul 2020

standard guidelines on masks. Make them mandatory across the country ... and enact the ability to manufacture quality and affordable masks ... and provide them to the nation for free. That alone would be a huge step with major results.

Kid Berwyn

(14,790 posts)
24. Wearing masks universally might knock off 4/5 cases. 80%.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 02:45 PM
Jul 2020
Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus

By Nina Bai
UCSF, June 26, 2020

Excerpt...

How many people need to wear masks to reduce community transmission?

“What you want is 100 percent of people to wear masks, but you’ll settle for 80 percent,” said Rutherford. In one simulation, researchers predicted that 80 percent of the population wearing masks would do more to reduce COVID-19 spread than a strict lockdown.

The latest forecast from the Institute of Health Metrics and Evaluation suggests that 33,000 deaths could be avoided by October 1 if 95 percent of people wore masks in public.

Even if you live in a community where few people wear masks, you would still reduce your own chances of catching the virus by wearing one, said Chin-Hong and Rutherford.

Source: https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
6. "If I can't have you, nobody can!"
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:52 AM
Jul 2020

Those who have been in abusive relationships will spot it a mile away.

Kid Berwyn

(14,790 posts)
25. The Divine Right of Morons
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:41 PM
Jul 2020

Thinking they can claim ownership of another human being, they feel outrage at the loss of control.

The murder-suicides often make the news. After hearing their story, I find myself wondering why didn’t they just take their own life?

The insane abusers must believe ownership exists past the grave.

Kid Berwyn

(14,790 posts)
27. We are all Puerto Ricans now.
Sat Jul 4, 2020, 09:57 AM
Jul 2020

“Puerto Rico was an incredible, unsung success.”



Amazing how quickly we move on. For instance, Putin offering bounties on American service members.

Why is Trump still in office?



Traitors should not be anywhere near the Oval Office.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,129 posts)
12. That's it exactly. We should be thanking him, his words.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:02 PM
Jul 2020

Revenge is his whole life, getting even. Its what he does best.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
11. That sentiment is fully endorsed by:
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:58 AM
Jul 2020

"How easy can it get?"

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2naSalit

(86,318 posts)
16. That picture makes me think
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:11 PM
Jul 2020

That some kind of sex shit goes on between those two and guess who's always "on top".

StarryNite

(9,434 posts)
13. He does want us to die.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:02 PM
Jul 2020

At least he wants the ones of us who are collecting Social Security to die. The rethugs have been trying to do away with SS since the beginning of it. If they can't get rid of it they will get rid of as many of us who are on it as they can. Since Covid-19 is the most dangerous for older people they see it as a win and let it keep on going. In fact they are actually working to spread it by having those disgusting rallies.

JHB

(37,153 posts)
17. I don't think he puts enough thought into it to "want" it
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:15 PM
Jul 2020

He wants nothing except to feed his own overweening (and roundly undeserved) sense of superiority, and his need for everyone else to acknowledge it.

He wants a big show and spectacle, with him as the star.

There is no other there, there.

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