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And here's the turn, likely. All trends in FL have now worsened (Original Post) Roland99 Jul 2020 OP
And Gov Deer in the Headlights does nothing mcar Jul 2020 #1
It's not a good idea to have a puke in charge of anything really Blues Heron Jul 2020 #2
republicans cannot govern at any level. mwb970 Jul 2020 #13
They can't govern Hstch05 Jul 2020 #18
Florida, I feel for you. At least NY had Cuomo. Merlot Jul 2020 #3
We're well and truly fucked. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2020 #22
Even the most ignorant Trumpian lapfog_1 Jul 2020 #4
Re: the most ignorant Trumpian, I believe you are giving them too much credit. Some of them will KPN Jul 2020 #8
I agree, gab13by13 Jul 2020 #15
This is that moment in every disaster film you've ever seen where the Mike 03 Jul 2020 #5
And God replies, "I've given you the intellect to avert this crisis. You chose to ignore my gift!" TheBlackAdder Jul 2020 #19
It's not good. FM123 Jul 2020 #6
I know a couple of local preppers - folks who've been eager to grab their guns and hide out in sop Jul 2020 #7
The reason I make a point never to get to know the lowest lifeforms on Earth, trumpsters. nt yaesu Jul 2020 #12
Same here. Prepper culture seems unimpressed by pandemics NickB79 Jul 2020 #23
Great info MoonlitKnight Jul 2020 #9
Yeah...I created a spreadsheet a while back to track it Roland99 Jul 2020 #10
Yes I looked at it MoonlitKnight Jul 2020 #11
I've reached out to the state and a state rep... Roland99 Jul 2020 #20
We're fighting a forest fire with a squirt gun here Fritz Walter Jul 2020 #14
Just Found A Good Site ProfessorGAC Jul 2020 #16
Nice. Thanks Roland99 Jul 2020 #21
2 week lag in results for mother in law RockCreek Jul 2020 #17

Blues Heron

(5,931 posts)
2. It's not a good idea to have a puke in charge of anything really
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:10 AM
Jul 2020

best stay away from them too - they are nasty dangerous and infectious. Don't get too close to a nasty puke!

mwb970

(11,358 posts)
13. republicans cannot govern at any level.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 01:25 PM
Jul 2020

They have shown this repeatedly over many decades now, yet we keep electing them.

Hstch05

(219 posts)
18. They can't govern
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 02:02 PM
Jul 2020

because they believe the concept of government itself is evil. The great, mostly unspoken, goal of the Republicans is to grab everything they can while tearing down the social programs that made this country prosperous in the first place. You can't be good at the thing you are trying so damn hard to destroy.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
4. Even the most ignorant Trumpian
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:12 AM
Jul 2020

will find it hard to believe that increased testing is causing more hospitalizations and more deaths.

And some of them will realize that they have been lied to.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
8. Re: the most ignorant Trumpian, I believe you are giving them too much credit. Some of them will
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:38 AM
Jul 2020

and would believe him right up until they themselves, or a spouse/child, are on their C-19 deathbed.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
5. This is that moment in every disaster film you've ever seen where the
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:17 AM
Jul 2020

protagonist looks at a computer screen and says, "Dear God!"

TheBlackAdder

(28,183 posts)
19. And God replies, "I've given you the intellect to avert this crisis. You chose to ignore my gift!"
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 03:05 PM
Jul 2020

.



.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
6. It's not good.
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:18 AM
Jul 2020

I have friends who work for Broward Health Medical Center in Ft Lauderdale and they are beyond worried, it is just worsening every day.

sop

(10,156 posts)
7. I know a couple of local preppers - folks who've been eager to grab their guns and hide out in
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:32 AM
Jul 2020

their bunkers stocked with bottled water, MREs and ammunition, at the merest hint of some apocalyptic event, ever since the Y2K hysteria - who are now openly scoffing at the COVID-19 disaster here in Florida, ridiculing mask-wearing "libtards," and heading out to the nearest bar or beach this weekend.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
23. Same here. Prepper culture seems unimpressed by pandemics
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 07:56 PM
Jul 2020

Which is fucking hilarious in a sad way.

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
9. Great info
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:45 AM
Jul 2020

Deaths have been tough to track in Florida because of undercounting, misclassification, and a big lag in reporting. It can take up to two weeks to add a death and the state adds it by date of death.

This chart is tracking the day to day change in the total number which is helpful for an overall view.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
10. Yeah...I created a spreadsheet a while back to track it
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 11:48 AM
Jul 2020

I started focusing on the 7-day trends due to the lags in reporting. Also note that FL is still undercounting deaths. Case Fatality Rate is like 2.2% vs Nationwide and worldwide averages of 4.8%

Altho the massive # of new cases have an impact on that, too.

If you want to see the source behind those graphs, check the 2nd tweet...has a link to the Google Docs spreadsheet.

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
11. Yes I looked at it
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 12:02 PM
Jul 2020

Looks like he is getting the death data by date of death as well. If you track day to day changes in total deaths it has been averaging over 90 a day this week. Again, not deaths that happened this week but those reported.

Now that hospitals are filling up we will see if that 2.2% holds up over the next three weeks. I hope so.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
20. I've reached out to the state and a state rep...
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 04:34 PM
Jul 2020

trying to get more detail / transparency


I’m not holding my breath

Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
14. We're fighting a forest fire with a squirt gun here
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 01:36 PM
Jul 2020

From Jacksonville:
This morning, I had to run a few errands (groceries, meds, other necessities). At each and every store, there are signs posted telling customers that they are NOT allowed to enter without a mask due to Mare Lemon Curry's emergency order. I saw only one idiot who was not in strict compliance: he had the mask covering his mouth but not his nose. Otherwise, no complaints, no refusals based on perceived rights, no stomping away in anger, and -- fortunately -- no brandishing of firearms or other weapons.

But, this is too little, too late.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
16. Just Found A Good Site
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 01:45 PM
Jul 2020

Johns Hopkins has this trend site.
The first graph is positivity by day, with a moving average line. The graph is interactive.
You can select a state or the whole country.
And, it loads fast!
Shows FL at over 20% yesterday. And moving average line has been quite steeply up since around June 10.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/testing/individual-states/florida

RockCreek

(739 posts)
17. 2 week lag in results for mother in law
Fri Jul 3, 2020, 01:45 PM
Jul 2020

My mother in law (late 70s) is in North Florida. She's been sick for weeks and went to the doctor 2 weeks ago. She got COVID testing 2 weeks ago. The result came back THIS AM, and she has it. She is feeling somewhat better. Meanwhile, my father in law has gotten really sick the couple days and is now on the way to the hospital due to the severity of his symptoms. We are waiting to hear....
We had expected this. It is a cesspool there, and they really were not taking enough precautions. No one in their area was, why should they?
It is terrifying.
And a 2 week testing lag.
The entire extended family was undoubtably exposed in that time. And they will have exposed others.

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