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[Wounded Bear]

1. Would not be surprising if TLP has ulterior motives...

They are still Repubs, after all.

[live love laugh]

4. Never trust a Republican nt

[Zambero]

9. They're going after Trump enablers as well

Namely anyone running for office with an "R" after their name. Since 99% of the former GOP establishment made the decision to jump on board Trump's leaky boat, when it ultimately sinks those passengers can sink along with it. And this is what TLP is going for. Kill the Trumplican party once and for all, and look ahead toward building it back up again as a functional center-right entity capable of actual governance and international diplomacy. At that point, they will proceed to do battle with Democrats once again.

[diva77]

17. Special interests and corporations want an "in" with whomever is going to be in office.

Republicans represent special interests and corporations. TLP is a group of republicans.

[4now]

2. Sounds like somebody is afraid

[melman]

7. Delightful

Insinuating that I'm a Trump supporter when I'm the one suspicious of a bunch of Republican operatives.

Just delightful!

[Budi]

21. I see no one calling you a trump supporter.

No One.

Accusing someone of calling you a Trump supporter is as bad as calling someone a Trump supporter.
Unless you are actually a Trump supporter, then that is worse than either being called one OR accusing someone.

Later..

[melman]

24. That's nice

Thanks for your input. Much appreciated.

[Budi]

33. Doubt it.

[melman]

36. Okay

[greyl]

30. If you're not Alex Shephard,

you might owe Budi an apology.

[melman]

31. Why?

[greyl]

40. Would you believe...

you might owe 4now an apology? (I mistakenly assumed Budi started the subthread)

They responded to the article excerpt that makes up 100% of your OP, so unless you're Alex Shephard, why take their comment as a personal attack?

[melman]

44. I've been here long enough

to get the intended meaning of a post like that. You are certainly free to disagree but that's the way I read it.

[Budi]

18. Taking a deeper dive into the writer of this article, & judging by the comments on his twitter ..

It appears they aren't fond of McGrath, Biden, Democrats, Pelosi etc..& now knowing this I believe it's rather obvious that you are correct.

New Republic
Political views
"In its current incarnation, The New Republic is unambiguously to the left of center and is often critical of the Democratic establishment and strongly in favor of universal health care."

Also, in the article it refers to & quotes someone named Galen.
Be right back.....fact checking Galen

[melman]

19. Reed Galen is one of the Lincoln Project founders

"Reed Galen is a co-founder of The Lincoln Project. He is an independent political strategist whose years of experience stem from working for President George W. Bush, Senator John McCain, and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger."

[Budi]

20. Thanks. Save me the time of fact checking . Which I do often with unfamiliar names & such.

Win McCormack's got a paper to publish.

It's not a bible of truth, so I'll just take the uneasy undertone of the witer of this particular article with a big ole dose of meh.

His twitter is the tell 🙄.



.

[melman]

23. His twitter is the tell

But people who worked to elect GW Bush are A-OK?


Conway - deeply involved with Clinton impeachmet

Wilson - worked for Rudy Giuliani and GHW Bush. Attacked Obama non-stop for eight years.

Galen - worked for GW Bush and McCain


Schmidt - worked for Bush and McCain. and personally selected Sarah Palin


These people are just peachy? I find that incredible.

[Budi]

28. I really don't give a shit about their past. We have 4 months to salvage America.

They all know it as well.

They're welcome to beat the piss out of Trump & his bs cult that keeps him in power.

Hope their efforts manage to restore the House & Senate to the center where all things balance..
Its basic physics.

[mucifer]

26. I don't like McCain or Schwartzenegger and I hate george w BUT all three of them

hate or hated trump. They all have made public statements.

[Hekate]

45. Schwartzenegger's ad really moved me. I was not pleased to have him be my governor...

...but as a former governor he’s shown himself to be a man with heart, by talking about what it was like growing up in postwar Austria, “surrounded by broken men filled with shrapnels and shame.” Stay away from white nationalism, because that is where it leads...

[Tarheel_Dem]

60. Ding! Ding! Ding!

[Budi]

12. Precisely. Truth is everybody's going to be lobbying Pres Biden for something

Left, Right, Far Left, Far Right, human rights, corporate rights & foreign & domestic and you know what?

Biden knows the law, the rules, and the game like the back of his 70 yr old hand.

President Joe Biden knows where & how the line is drawn.

If Project Lincoln is putting it all out there to bury Trump & every complicit character beholding to him, then by all means Project Lincoln, take your place among the millions who have no voice left, and build us the enthusiasm & join us on that path to taking our Democratic Republic back from the edge of the abyss.

We have only 4 months to save ourselves.

[OnDoutside]

27. Well said.

[Historic NY]

5. They aren't just going after Trump

[radical noodle]

6. I think their ads aim at independents

and moderate Republicans. Sure, we love the ads, but that was a given. They know the people they're targeting better than we do. I applaud them because they're going the extra mile to try to take down Republican senators as well.

[RainCaster]

8. Sour grapes

A whiny message from someone who got their butt hurt by the messages. They are hitting home at the heart of the GOP, and the author feels it.

[melman]

10. A lot of Trumpians employed at The New Republic, you think?

That's an interesting take.

[GeorgiaPeanut]

11. Meh

Faulty logic and faulty analysis based upon faulty logic.

In the game of politics, one welcomes votes coming from any direction. Those who insist on "purity" usually lose and lose big.

The ads by Lincoln Project are sincere for this cycle and I welcome them. They are not bound by the ethics and protocol of the DNC and can push the envelope.

If (and it is a big if) you want Biden to win, you should welcome and embrace republican support - albeit temporarily until 11/03. If you can't embrace it, not whining about it may be a less error-prone position.

[melman]

13. "If (and it is a big if) you want Biden to win"

Oh really?

[GeorgiaPeanut]

14. Some torch bearers of the messiah

occasionally want an "I told you so" moment. We have seen this movie before directed by David Sirota and Brihana Joy-Grey.

Nina Turner is already out campaigning against Biden. Which side are messiah's warriors on? Really.

[melman]

15. I'll tell you one thing

I post everything I post on one account. Every post I've ever made on this board is under one and only one screen name.

[Cha]

47. ..

[JI7]

22. lol

[JI7]

25. The guy's twitter is mostly an attack on Democrats . I know these types

we went through this in 2016 and the booing of Clinton and others at the DNC by these types that prefer Trump over Democrats.

[OnDoutside]

29. Exactly.

May I say that it largely derives from purity politics, which is a familiar theme amongst those attacking Hillary in 2016, and Biden in 2020.

[Budi]

32. Yup. There's only 2 directions to go here. Dem or Repub

If you serious about saving our country, its Biden, or if not its Trump.

You're either with us or you're with them.

Ya can't be half-assed with the stakes in November 2020

[melman]

34. The guys who run the Lincoln Project

have spent their whole careers attacking Democrats. That's literally all they have done for decades.

[Budi]

37. Well, Mr Shepard better step it up. He's got some big shoes to fill & they have quite the headstart!

Night
🙂

[JI7]

43. That guy is attacking Democrats right now. LP isn't claiming to be liberal

or denying their history.

They hate trump and they always have hated Trump and want him gone.

they are going after Trump while the guy who wrote the article is attacking Democrats running right now.

[Cha]

46. Yeah, anyone attacking Dems now at this point in history

is in the way.. and doesn't really care about our Planet or the SCOTUS.

[Cha]

35. shocking.

[Hekate]

38. TLP is not talking to Democrats to persuade us to vote against Trump & for Biden....

What would be the ever-loving point of that? Anyone to the left of “moderate” is already going to vote for Biden — and if they aren’t, their head is too far up you know where to hear the screaming.

The audience The Lincoln Project is aiming for is (1) Trump himself, because he is so easy to bait and it throws him off his game. I notice they are using his own trigger-words on him: weak, loser, laughingstock — all the stuff he projects on to others are his own deepest insecurities and fears. Hillary told us, remember? (2) Swing voters who are now sickened by what they see and need to have the way out pointed out to them. (3) Any lifelong Republican who has a remnant of conscience, sense, and/or understanding of the Constitution — but has devolved into voting for the GOP out of mere habit, and is now sickened by what they see and needs a way out.

The cultists and tribalists and white nationalists are a completely lost cause. Hillary was being gentle when she called them “a basket of deplorables.” Dems shouldn’t waste our time and money trying to win them over — The Lincoln Project certainly isn’t bothering.

I see their ads online, and they just get better and better. The one with the doctor who is a SEAL veteran was a punch to the gut for any American appalled by the news of Russia offering a bounty for the Taliban to kill American soldiers. When he named one of his bona fides as being “pro life” — that was not for me or you, that was for any Republican tuning in who needs a reason to listen to someone telling them to vote for Joe.

And if they want to claim some credit if Biden wins? Fine by me.

[Budi]

39. Thank you.

#2020💙 VoteBiden 💙VoteDemocrats

And Thank you, Lincoln Project

[melman]

41. "TLP is not talking to Democrats to persuade us to vote against Trump & for Biden...."

The article doesn't say that.

[Hekate]

50. Nope, but I surely am saying that, & will keep on saying it. I listened to Wilson & Schmidt state

...their goals: their Party is rotten to its core & needs to be burned to the ground to start over— which works for me. I read their website. I was impressed enough that I donated.

They. Are. Not. Talking. To. You.

[Cha]

42. Yes 1, 2, & 3! Mahalo Hekate.. Unreal anyone is

whining about the Lincoln Project helping to get repubs to vote for Biden.

All Hands Deck!

[Hekate]

53. Indeed.

It is beginning to be slightly reminiscent of 2016 around here some days.

[brer cat]

59. Well said.

[JI7]

48. Some people would prefer we spend this time attacking Pelosi Biden Amy Mcgrath

and other Democrats.

ads that go after Trump really bothers some.

[Cha]

52. Yeah, why is that? TLP is going after trump.. anyone going after

Biden doesn't give a shite about the Planet or SCOTUS.

[melman]

49. People are so in love with the fantasy of benevolent Repubs

that they can't even tolerate any questioning of it. It's incredible.

[JI7]

51. No, it's just that we have seen this before , especially in 2016

[melman]

54. Seen what?

People aggressively defending a shady group of Republican operatives? I don't recall that but if you say so.

[JI7]

55. There is nothing shady about LP . They aren't claiming to be anything other than what they are

passive aggressive is what the article in the OP is . And his attacks on Pelosi and other democrats RIGHT NOW show what he is all about.

[betsuni]

56. LOL.

[SiliconValley_Dem]

57. it is a marketing tool for GOP to reclaim legitimacy

when Trump is gone. Don't buy it.

[ProfessorGAC]

58. Silly

The ads are targeting people who thought maybe "shaking things up" in 2016 was a good idea.
The ads are targeting liberals, as the piece suggests! Liberals don't need convincing that PINO is an abomination.
And, the math suggests they don't need to change 10 million minds.
They need to convince about 90,000 minds, or cement any thoughts that their 2016 vote was a mistake.
The entire premise is flawed.