Do you think DT s trying to eliminate the post office so there can't be mail-in-voting?

[napi21]

O read thiss yesterday...don't remember where...but it sure sounds like it COULD be true!

[lagomorph777]

1. You're a little late to this story. Yes, of course he is. Not very secret about it, either.

[stopdiggin]

16. nope. right target. not the right reason/rationale

(I read it on the interweb ... Pretty sure ...)

[lagomorph777]

18. ?

[stopdiggin]

19. 1) Trump's fight with the post office has to do with Bezos and Amazon

2) Republicans and conservatives have been going after the USPS for some time (for other reasons entirely) .. and long before mail in voting became the issue that it is today.

you have to try out the interweb .. it's great!
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[lagomorph777]

20. Great idea.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/trumps-attack-on-voting-by-mail

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/29/trump-mail-in-voting-coronavirus-pandemic

https://www.forbes.com/sites/lisettevoytko/2020/05/24/trump-escalates-attacks-on-mail-in-voting-tying-coronavirus-to-rigged-election/#5e6c0b011b74

https://www.seattletimes.com/opinion/trumps-bogus-attacks-on-mail-in-voting-could-hurt-his-supporters-too/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-attacks-mail-in-voting-with-new-series-of-false-claims/ar-BB15QwSy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-attack-on-vote-by-mail-is-an-attack-on-democracy/2020/04/10/984e1d34-7a84-11ea-a130-df573469f094_story.html

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/05/26/trump-says-the-election-will-be-rigged-by-mail-in-voting-despite-research/

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/trumps-insane-attacks-on-mail-in-voting-may-have-just-massively-backfired-on-florida-gop-report/

https://bipartisanreport.com/2020/05/28/trump-attacks-twitter-mail-in-voting-during-afternoon-meltdown/

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/06/04/donald-trump-election-disruption-2020-294721

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-ramps-up-attack-on-mail-in-voting-warning-about-false-ballots-from-foreign-countries/ar-BB15Q0qW

https://apnews.com/0630d22047c0c29bd52498d9e40bcbda

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/24/us/politics/trump-vote-by-mail.html

https://couriernewsroom.com/2020/06/22/trump-attacks-mail-in-voting-as-his-poll-numbers-sag/

There are hundreds more, but I think these convey the general idea.

[stopdiggin]

21. all of which reflect current analysis

of a grudge (on Trump's part), and a bias (on Rs part) that long precede the election cycle. Or, to be more succinct .. long before mail in voting became the focus that it currently is.


but your homework project is impressive! -- --

[LisaL]

2. It wouldn't surprise me.

[leftieNanner]

3. That would solve two problems

They have always wanted to privatize the Postal Service.

And it will cause lots of problems with VBM.

[CottonBear]

4. The Russians & the GOP hadn't planned a strategy to hack vote by mail, so...

they can try to get rid of the post office (except for the problem that it’s constitutionally mandated) or they can try to make vote by mail illegal or not allowed for everyone. The problem is that old, white Republicans and Trump and his cronies vote by mail.

[former9thward]

5. No

Another CT. Nothing will happen to the Post Office in the next four months. Nothing.

[sweetloukillbot]

7. He wants to close the Post Office because of Amazon or something

But yeah, it won't happen in 4 months. And if it does, we've got a lot bigger things to worry about.

[Hoyt]

6. No. The USPS will be here in November.

[uponit7771]

9. at the 120% that's needed? I doubt it, I don't trust Trump. The BLS numbers today are a tell ...

... they made the same "mistake" 4 months in a row ... yeah, right

[LeftInTX]

15. But that's not the same as eliminating it!!!

[uponit7771]

17. The point being it doesn't have to be, elimination is a false bar he just has to slimy it

[uponit7771]

8. He doesn't need to, just reduce their efficacy and that'll do the job

[Greybnk48]

10. YES. n/t

[ProfessorGAC]

11. No

They have actually seen an uptick in revenue due to pandemic triggered online ordering.
They will NOT be closed by November.

[yellowcanine]

12. Does the proverbial bear defacate in the proverbial woods?

[stopdiggin]

13. USPS has been a target of conservative types for years

The Donald might have some particular maggot in his brain (who really knows -- can the Donald really hold a thought in his brain for -- oh, wait, is this Tues.?), but you'd really have to stretch out to call it a plan. And, yes, Republican operatives have been actively involved and pushing any one of dozens of voter suppression schemes -- and the USPS might conceivably fall into that category -- but, once again, only as late comers to an ongoing years long effort.

Also -- once again -- voting rules (including mail in ballots and voting) are largely determined by the states. So -- Donnie's "mad" really isn't much of a determining factor. Is mail in voting going to be a big thing in November? Almost certainly. But the states are the ones that will be playing puppet master and pulling the strings. Once again -- look to what is going on in your statehouse -- they're the ones that are (or aren't?) playing a game of three card monte.

[LeftInTX]

14. He can't

The Post Office is part of the US Constitution.

All he can do is write weird executive orders, but he can't eliminate it or completely defund it or anything drastic.

[Chainfire]

22. The question is puzzling to me

that anyone would think that the Postal Service of the US could be intentionally rendered ineffective between now and the election.

Of course the Republicans can't stand the people having something basically at cost, they want to privatize the system because they want to make money off of everything, but it will be an uphill battle.