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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI have a problem with John Bolton's "Democratic malpractice" claim about impeachment.
He claims there was a model from Watergate and the Democrats did not use it.
That simply is not true. Democrats controlled the House and Senate when Watergate was going on. And there were much more moderate Republicans at that time.
It would have been nice if Pelosi and the Democrats had had the votes to convict Trump. But, they knew they didn't have the votes. Still, they impeached. Because it was their duty to impeach. It was the duty of the Senate to convict. The House had to do their job, regardless of what the Senate did.
Bolton's claim of "Democratic malpractice" is not consistent with his comments that no matter if he had testified, no one was going to change their minds about Trump at that stage of the game. The Democrats could not change any minds? That does not mean the Democrats should not have impeached.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)Iggo
(47,549 posts)Siwsan
(26,259 posts)He is disgusting.
agingdem
(7,845 posts)bolton's attempt to self-gaslight is pathetic...we have receipts...
Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)reminded me he is nothing but a partisan hack WHO when he had a chance to do the right thing for the country, did nothing.
At that point, trump's incompetence and unfitness was readily apparent to even Bolton, but he did nothing.
stillcool
(32,626 posts)onetexan
(13,036 posts)the Senate. Slimy snake as usual. He said those things about the Idiot to make $ off his book. He's narcissistic & greedy like the Idiot.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)Right wing Dogma,and always has been. Got to remember,he was a Aide to Agnew back in the day.
Bev54
(10,047 posts)failed to say he was as corrupt a criminal as a VP and resigned in disgrace and went to jail. What a great man to look up to. Asshole is not any better.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)and the rest is one pathetic Historical nightmare.
onetexan
(13,036 posts)that he was impressed by how conservative and good this person was, and THEN it turned out he was a corrupt politician. Ironic.
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)That and that Mobile Chemical lab. Friggin Agricultural Spray Nurse Truck,yup,way to go Johnny.
True Blue American
(17,984 posts)onecaliberal
(32,826 posts)dlk
(11,552 posts)No one should care what he has to say.
moondust
(19,972 posts)The WH was going to tie up everything in the courts for months. Ignoring subpoenas, withholding records, etc. Republicans turned committee hearings into a circus. I've heard Bolton try to compare that partisan circus to the Watergate committees. Watergate was long before the hyperpartisan gridlock created by Kenneth Starr, Fox News, Limbaugh, Gingrich, Tom Delay, Tea Party, McConnell, Dump & Co.
Bolton says he worked on the Goldwater and Reagan campaigns. He's been really fucked up for a really long time.
spanone
(135,824 posts)He didn't talk when he needed too.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)I will not buy his book
certainot
(9,090 posts)republicans would join the democrats to make a difference with trump/putin's radio stations blasting "TRAITOR!" all day
either he knows that is another difference re watergate and he's lying or he's a fucking idiot as well as an asshole
DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)that. is. all.
Marcuse
(7,479 posts)kentuck
(111,079 posts)Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)reiable witness in other words. Is his book full of BS as well? Probably - why bother reading it.
NNadir
(33,512 posts)I have nothing to say about this slime mold of a man.
czarjak
(11,266 posts)stopdiggin
(11,296 posts)Well, of course .....
How could we have forgotten ....
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LiberalFighter
(50,890 posts)Hekate
(90,645 posts)Those were the men who walked over to Nixon's White House and told him it was time to go. For the good of the country.
But that was long ago -- in another country, so to speak, and those men are dead.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)As usual, Bolton is on the wrong side of history.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)No matter how right you are, NEVER start a refutation by repeating the claim you're refuting. Bolton didn't write the book I read it in, but he could ahve.
McConnell and company would have refused to find Trump guilty if he'd shot someone right there on the senate floor.
Everyone knew that going in.
louzke9
(296 posts)to what Bolton is claiming. Most people know he is trying to deflect from his unsavory behavior in all of this. Also it shows that Bolton is not that intelligent when it comes to historical facts and is hoping others are not either! But THESE FACTS are good to point out when we see bloggers criticize Democrats. Only a Democratic win of all three branches in November will can remedy some of the damage the GOP and Trump have foisted upon/to this country.
Nitram
(22,791 posts)The Democratic strategy of choosing a limited but very serious crime with clear evidence that it had been committed was smart and legally sound. Taking Bolton's path of charging Trump with every crime he had committed since entering office would have ended in a quagmire of confusion and competing narratives. As Bolton well knows. He sold out his country to make a few million dollars on a book.
Well said!