Defund the police? Reform the police? How about do

[Eliot Rosewater]

what I have talked about doing for years and what Camden NJ actually did do....


https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2020/06/11/police-reform-camden-new-jersey-rebuilt-its-police-department#:~:text=In%202013%2C%20the%20city%20of,officers%20and%20rebuilt%20the%20department.

Portrait Of Police Reform: How Camden, New Jersey Rebuilt Its Police Department

In 2013, the city of Camden, New Jersey fired all of its police officers and rebuilt the department. We look at the lessons learned for today.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-04/how-camden-new-jersey-reformed-its-police-department

[cayugafalls]

1. Rebuild, Retrain, Reform.

[brooklynite]

2. How about losing the Election?

Something that radical may feel good, but you'll destroy Biden's chances.

[PTWB]

9. In these difficult times we need radical.

The last thing we need is status quo. We need Biden to come out swinging - take down the police, the wealthy, the corporations - take down everyone who is holding back the American middle class and American workers.

Take down everyone who is benefiting from oppressing minorities and the poor.

Take them down and take them down HARD.

[brooklynite]

10. And you'll get radical...four more years of Trump.

[PTWB]

11. Nope.

That’s what we will get if we try to straddle the fence.

Hillary Clinton would have been a wonderfully progressive president yet she allowed her campaign to get bogged down by focus-group approved, middle of the road messaging. Straddling the fence cost her 2016.

We cannot allow the wealthy and the corporations to control the message. Raise the top tax rate to 95%. Enact a law requiring the highest paid persons in a company to make no more than 10 times what the lowest paid person makes. Support defunding and disbanding the corrupt police departments across the country. Disarm white nationalist. Investigate and prosecute everyone in Trump’s administration who broke the law, including Trump himself.

[brooklynite]

12. Biden has already discounted radical action and "Defund the Police" rhetoric.

His VP choice will as well.

[PTWB]

13. Don't push Biden and his VP to be milquetoast

We want to win this time around.

You had your centrist, focus group messaging campaign in 2016 and it didn’t work. Had HRC ran as the progressive she is, and embraced progressive messaging, we would not have had to endure 4 years of Trump.

[SKKY]

3. And Camden is a great model to follow...

...because that place has a history of crime and violence. So, it's worth a try because what we're doing now is NOT working. Not one bit.

[MarcA]

4. Someone on DU suggested Police the Police.

I like that and whatever they did in Camden, regardless of what you call it.

[soothsayer]

5. Reimagine

[Grokenstein]

6. Demilitarize.

[fierywoman]

7. Also: Glenn Kirschner:

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[crickets]

8. Camden's example sounds like a good place to start.

They've shown that it is quite possible - a police department can be reformed, or at least drastically improved.