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Bradshaw3

(7,455 posts)
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 11:43 AM Jun 2020

Browns QB Baker Mayfield to kneel during anthem

snip:

"It’s about equality and everybody being treated the same because we are all human. It’s been ignored for too long and that (is) my fault as well for not becoming more educated and staying silent.

If I lose fans, that’s OK. I’ve always spoken my mind. And that’s from the heart."

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jun/13/baker-mayfield-national-anthem-cleveland-browns

Way to go Baker!

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Browns QB Baker Mayfield to kneel during anthem (Original Post) Bradshaw3 Jun 2020 OP
You're still stuck in Cleveland. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #1
If he has a bad day, there may be a chant like, 'take a knee' - somewhere else empedocles Jun 2020 #4
He can be a reckless "gunslinger" sometimes. Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #5
All qbs have their bad days, even on big winning teams. empedocles Jun 2020 #6
Hits on trump keep on coming empedocles Jun 2020 #2
Re: fan loyalty: Bakers speaking isn't an issue. His playing is. Raven123 Jun 2020 #3
Wrong on both counts Bradshaw3 Jun 2020 #7
What comments? Here? Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #9
My Bears Are No Shining Example Either ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #10
Yeah, there's some contradictions to... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #11
Talk To The Folks Who Worked For Sears ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #12
Inflexible thinking! Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #13
Good for him! Yeehah Jun 2020 #8

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,848 posts)
1. You're still stuck in Cleveland.
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 11:46 AM
Jun 2020

So if there's an ulterior motive, too bad.

I'm joking! He's probably genuine.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,848 posts)
5. He can be a reckless "gunslinger" sometimes.
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 11:56 AM
Jun 2020

So it wouldn't surprise me if he got demoted or traded eventually..

I hope he doesn't try to blame it on the knee-stuff if it happens.

Bradshaw3

(7,455 posts)
7. Wrong on both counts
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 12:00 PM
Jun 2020

His speaking out is an issue - look at the comments he received for proof of that. As for his playing, he was runner-up for rookie of the year two years ago, then fell off during his sophomore season, which often happens, and which was not entirely his fault since he was saddled with an inept coaching staff and a bad OL. Even with that, he has said he needs to play better and plans to do that with a new coaching staff, revamped line and a new attitude for himself. Good for him on that and his attitude about current events.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,848 posts)
9. What comments? Here?
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 12:06 PM
Jun 2020

I don't care if EVERY player takes a knee during the anthem. It's always been a non-issue for me!

My comment was a friendly jab at the Browns organization. The Bengals are terribly managed too.

ProfessorGAC

(64,426 posts)
10. My Bears Are No Shining Example Either
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 12:12 PM
Jun 2020

Major market. Only team within 200 miles.
Makes the playoffs 2 out of every 5 years.
Given the cash flow, it should be a rarity to not make the playoffs.
But, no!

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,848 posts)
11. Yeah, there's some contradictions to...
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 12:19 PM
Jun 2020

... the idea that major markets always have an advantage in sports.

Management at the top matters, just like this country as a whole while under Trump.

ProfessorGAC

(64,426 posts)
12. Talk To The Folks Who Worked For Sears
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 12:34 PM
Jun 2020

Top management was the ONLY problem!
A company that could have been Amazon when Bezos was in junior high disbanded their distribution systems, eliminated catalog sales, and overbuilt brick & mortar.
Those were 100% top management decisions.
If not for those idiotic decisions, Sears could be the world's 2nd biggest company!

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,848 posts)
13. Inflexible thinking!
Sun Jun 14, 2020, 12:39 PM
Jun 2020

I tend to prefer managers who "flip-flop" on ideas sometimes. It's often a more rational, scientific way of thinking... as long as it's not too flaky, I guess.

Basing decisions on evidence-based probabilities is best to me.

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