Looks like they're grooming Mittens to be the puke candidate in 2024

[Yeehah]

And you can bet your bottom dollar the fascist republicans will rally around their kook leader. Much more dangerous than Trump because he will appeal to many conservative Democrats and middle-of-the-roaders. Romney would get more substantial conservative agenda items completed because he wouldn't waste political capital on idiotic ideas like a border wall. The republicans are yearning for another Reagan and they will get him in Mitt Romney, if liberals don't stay united.

[hlthe2b]

1. Obamacare was modeled after Romney's Massachusett plan...

I am in no way promoting, nor would I support Romney, but I think some perspective might be in order

[Chemisse]

6. Yeah, he's not too bad. Therein lies the problem for Dems.

But unless the GOP base changes a lot, he won't make it through the primaries.

[leftieNanner]

10. He is anathema to MAGats

After his vote in the Senate trial.

Plus he will have to get past Pompeo and Cotton.

[Yeehah]

14. Sure, Romney wouldn't be so bad

Eight more years of tax cuts for the rich.

Eight more years of conservative judges.

Eight more years of environmental destruction.

Eight more years of religious takeover of the government.

I agree. Some perspective is in order.

[hlthe2b]

15. Don't intentionally misrepresent what I said. That is not acceptable here or anywhere else.

As you clearly know and sought to ignore, I stated clearly that "I am in no way promoting, nor would I support Romney."

Your hyperbole aside, Romney is not, as you say more dangerous than Trump. Not by a long stretch.

[Yeehah]

33. You posted: "I think some perspective might be in order"

I believe a reasonable interpretation of that statement is that Romney is not as bad as I was making him out to be.

I did not claim you were supporting or promoting Romney, so I suggest it is you who has misrepresented what I posted.

Have a great day!

[hlthe2b]

38. You stated (that Romney would be) "Much more dangerous than Trump" That is where you need

some perspective. That is beyond ridiculous in any context.

AND you misrepresented what I said in the blatant attempt to suggest I supported Romney. That is beyond unacceptable.

[Yeehah]

40. I made no such suggestion

I believe Romney would be more dangerous than Trump because Romney is intelligent, well-spoken, and completely dedicated to the conservative cause. Circus clown Trump has self-destructed after 4 years and nearly taken the whole republican party with him. I hope that helps to clarify my statement that Romney is more dangerous than Trump. I remember the Reagan years.

[Bettie]

43. And don't forget that he's a proponent

of doing away with social security and medicaid.

[rusty fender]

2. Magats

Hate him, I think

[Blue_true]

47. They hate him until they love him.

Unlike our insurgents, they can read the tea leaves. If they see that they can win by voting for someone they detest, they will vote for that person and bide their time. They know that he won't wreck their philosophy, just not give them all they want, while keeping their future wants in play. Our side can learn from that.

[Eid Ma Clack Shaw]

49. Bingo!

There’s a reason the GOP are so successful, and it’s because they know how to win! One, they know the power of unity, and that it gives them a sizeable in-built advantage against a relatively flaky opposition base. Two, they know the power of swaying independent voters with simple, sharp slogans that prey on fear / jealousy of poor people ‘getting something for nothing’ and, you know what? It’s effective.

My belief is that the GOP is fundamentally about ramming its drastically unfair economic program through. Always has been, but they’ve been given opportunities they never should have so they want more. More extreme, less fair for people outside the gilded class.

The social, “moral” stuff - as we see with the embrace of a depraved huckster in Trump - is a rallying cry to dumb people who know no better. The right have been able to shape the system and tilt the board because they know the importance of winning first and nitpicking later, but there's a certain irony in the fact that the USA would have edged closer to the sort of progressive policy many on the left hold dear if they didn’t throw a huff and vote for Nader or Stein in their hundreds of thousands.

Look, I’m decidedly left wing - I’m also a pragmatist who knows that it’s much easier to blow things up than it is to put them back together again. I know not every election is winnable, but if people on our side weren’t so damn quick to register protest votes or just stay at home, we’d have won more (in each branch of government) and forced the GOP to end the culture war shit and try to win on actual ideas.

[Blue_true]

51. Excellent points.

I often longingly think of where we would be if the far left had JUST DONE ONE of the following:

Vote for Humphrey in 68

Vote for Carter in 80

Vote for Gore in 2000

Vote for Kerry in 2004

Vote for Hillary in 2016

Instead, at each of those critical times, it chose instead to manufacture enemies out of people that share 95% of their values.

I am a Social Democrat by values and temperament. But I have often held my nose and voted for a democrat that wasn't where I am at politically. The simple reason for that vote is that democrat was not going to set the effort to get a social democratic society back one to two decades like the republican would. So my vote was a practical one, by voting for the democrat, I chose to not get set back in my efforts and have to start from scratch.

[Chemisse]

3. Hopefully he will run against a popular incumbent VP.

But yeah, we certainly can't hang Trump around his neck.

[Hoyt]

4. Wouldn't be shocked if GOPers put someone else in at last minute in 2020.

[Dream Girl]

13. Yep. He would be the back up to Trump

[Mme. Defarge]

20. They will have to.

[Aristus]

5. I'm not too worried right now.

It seems to me that Romney is in the doghouse with the GOP for the sin of being an occasionally decent human being. He may enjoy the approbation he is currently receiving from the above-average half of America. He may not want to give that up, and subject himself again to the electron microscope of scrutiny a Presidential campaign brings.

[Patterson]

7. Tom Cotton will lead the pack in 2024.

[Blue_true]

48. My guess also.

He really appeals to the MAGATS, the barely concealed racism, the xenophobia, the declaration of absolute patriotism when not really being patriotic, the convenient lying. He has the whole package to win their primary.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

8. No, Romney is not "more dangerous than Trump."

Not even close.

I don’t want him as President but there has literally never been a president more dangerous than Donald Trump.

[Yeehah]

39. Trump has self-destructed after 4 years

Much of the short-term damage Trump has done can be reversed pretty quickly, with the exception of the corruption of the Supreme Court (Gorsuch & Kavanaugh).

I fear that a republican who can speak in complete sentences would do much more damage.

There can be no more division of the left.

[SheltieLover]

9. Or 2020

If things get much worse, they might cut a deal to get him out & nominate Mr. 47%.

[leftieNanner]

12. I don't know if he would want to be the nominee this year

The GOP is in such a mess right now, he doesn't want to be tied to that.

But I have also considered whether this might be their plan.

[SheltieLover]

27. True

But he wants it badly...wants to be the "savior."

[leftieNanner]

29. And I bet Ann still has her Prom Dress from 2012!

When I mentioned this here recently, malaise reminded me that the dress was red!

[SheltieLover]

31. 🤣🤣🤣

I wonder how rwn evengelicals would respond to Romney? Isn't he Mormon?

[leftieNanner]

32. Oh Yes! He's Magic Underwear Kinda Mormon

The Evangelicals don't like Mormons. But if they could support a man who breaks the Ten Commandments every single day, they would find a way to rally around Mittens.

[SheltieLover]

34. Probably so

Idiots.

I worked in very rural appalacia during 2012 campaign. Saw many trailer homes rotted out, rusty old bicycles in yards, with literally 50' romney banners. 😳🤯

[I_UndergroundPanther]

11. Fuck the republicans

Run them out show and explain exactly what they are and what they believe, expose it all explain Neo - liberalism and how wrong it is, give them no wiggle room to lie they'll never get elected again. Go for the jugular.

[Happy Hoosier]

16. I think so, but...

I’m not what’s left of the Republican Party would ever support him again.

[budkin]

17. He would be a godsend compared to Trump

I can't believe we've come to this.

[Yeehah]

35. Trump has self-destructed after 4 years and nearly taken the republican party with him

Romney would do the exact opposite and move the conservative agenda much, much farther.

[Hekate]

18. Mittens is grooming himself. And he did institute Romneycare, which is a good thing. However...

...he is aging out.

[jcgoldie]

19. Gonna be a whole lot of pissed off deplorables at Mitt

No way any repub candidate gets the nomination without them.

[Yeehah]

37. Deplorables will rally around any fuhrer Fox "News" tells them to rally around

They are deplorables because they lack intellect and critical thinking. They will be led by the nose like sheep - again.

[jcgoldie]

45. Dont forget they will still be looking at Donald Trump's tweets...

[Kaleva]

50. Fox news will never endorse Romney because they'd lose their audience.

Fox News is a for-profit organisation that puts out news a segment of the population wants to hear. Stray from that, Fox will lose viewers and thus will lose money.

[Yeehah]

53. Fox "News" is owned by people so rich they don't give a shit if it makes money or not

The primary purpose of Fox "News" is to indoctrinate gullible people in the USA to support the republican party, which is in the interests of the plutocrats running the country right now. The deplorables don't give a shit that Trump is a sinner; they won't give a shit that Romney is a Mormon. Fox "News" can be counted on to produce lots of Mormon-friendly pieces and how they all worship the same Jesus. The gullible working class people who worshiped St. Ronnie will worship St. Romney. After Trump loses this November, he will become an irrelevant sideshow.

[Kaleva]

56. Where do you get your info from?

"Fox "News" is owned by people so rich they don't give a shit if it makes money or not

The primary purpose of Fox "News" is to indoctrinate gullible people in the USA to support the republican party, which is in the interests of the plutocrats running the country right now. "

The Murdochs only own 39% of Fox. Unless you have evidence to the contrary, it's highly unlikely the other shareholders who own 61% of the stock are so rich that they don't care if Fox News makes money.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_Corporation

[Yeehah]

59. OK, let's see if they dump Tucker Carlson......

for losing so much money.

I assume you know with Murdoch's 39% he has complete control of the corporation. He is the Chairman of the Board, and his son is executive chairman.

[maxsolomon]

21. He'll be 77 in 2024, so...

Oh, wait.

Never mind.

[jcgoldie]

23. tsk tsk

behave

[TheCowsCameHome]

22. Romney is going nowhere.

Relax.

[brooklynite]

24. No, "they" aren't...

There isn’t a “they” controlling matter. Romney may well anticipate a 2024 run, but he’s not the preferred Republican choice.

[rictofen]

25. He'll do anything, anything, to be POTUS

There's no flip that he won't flop.

[Brother Mythos]

26. I doubt Mittens will even get close to the General Election in 2024.

The Republican redneck base is still going to be redneck, and Turd will not just magically disappear from the political scene after losing reelection. Being a Mormon from Utah, Mittens is in a unique position that allows him to distance himself a bit from Turd. The rest of the professional Republican politicians do not dare do that, because they know they will be 'primaried out of office' if they're even suspected of thinking about it.

Other than those few states with high Mormon populations, I don't believe Mittens will get far in the primaries.

[Freethinker65]

28. Nah. Mitt ran for Senate in Utah to pass the seat on to one of his kids

[smirkymonkey]

30. At least they aren't trying to groom one of Trump's mutant spawn.

I can't think of anything worse than having another Trump in the White House again.

[grantcart]

36. Two sides are prepping for an intra party civil war

[Xolodno]

41. Disagree.

He was the GOP guy who wasn't bat shit crazy and they believed with all their antics in Congress, they could win....and still lost. Even Karl Rove refused to believe he lost for awhile.

Romney is their Senatorial savior to get the moderates back into the fold in time. The base is shrinking due to one simple reason...death. Eventually they will reach a critical moment to move with the country...or...die as a party. Thinking its more likely former.

[Initech]

42. No way in hell would he make it past the primaries.

Unless there was a split between the GOP and the Trump / Fox cult. The GOP now is the party of the Trump cult, and they despise Mitt for breaking with the party line in the impeachment trial. If you stab them in the back, there ain't no coming back from that.

[Awsi Dooger]

52. I wouldn't take 1 million to 1 odds on Romney being the nominee

This is one of the most bizarre threads I have ever seen here

[Vogon_Glory]

44. Mittsie might already be off and running, but a Republican base stupid enough

to nominate Trump may yet be stupid enough to pick someone as sorry as Rick Scott or “Scotty” Walker. Mittsie might find himself getting side-lined well before the 2024 nomination.

[nsd]

46. The Republican party is too far gone to nominate Romney again.

By now, Romney is a RINO.

Look for Tom Cotton to be their 2024 nominee.

[TristanIsolde]

54. A big chunk of the party: the "Bernie supporters" will never accept someone as right wing as Romney

I think that is a safe bet.

Maybe if he switches to the Democratic Party that is remotely possible, but I think only remotely.

[TheFarseer]

55. I can't wait to break up the country and sell off the pieces

So we can afford tax cuts for the rich. Let's start with all the roads and utilities and move on to national monuments.

[RhodeIslandOne]

57. I dunno

He didn't excite anyone the last time. I also think the Republican party is going to lose a lot of full blown nutjobs who would vote for the GOP regardless once it tries to ignore the Trump legacy.

[la-trucker]

58. Bernie can defeat Mittens

Just saying ...

[JI7]

60. Romney would not be able to win the Nomination and he only won in 2012 because Gingrich and Santorum

split the racist votes .

[JCMach1]

61. Ivanka, 2024 is the correct answer to the ?

Americas own Marine let Pen