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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHas anyone seen this letter from Minneapolis Police Union leader Bob Kroll?
Oh man...
Link to tweet
https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/calls-for-minneapolis-police-union-leader-bob-kroll-to-quit-after-he-sends-letter-about-george-floyd-unrest
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)niyad
(113,095 posts)BComplex
(8,019 posts)It might as well be on nazi letterhead.
LakeVermilion
(1,037 posts)Kroll is part of the 96% of the Minneapolis police force that doesn't live in the city where they work.
Citizens of the city have the responsibility to get the type of policing that they want. The police don't get to dictate the standards for the community. This is the problem, Minneapolis police want to dictate the rules of behavior for the city. If they refuse to act according to the standards set by the city council, the mayor and by default, its citizens.
BComplex
(8,019 posts)Or share their values? Sounds about right.
JHB
(37,157 posts)Of the department's 873 officers, 72 live in Minneapolis ZIP codes.
By Libor Jany Star Tribune August 24, 2017 7:29am
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We lost a lot of good people to a lot of other agencies when they did that, said Lt. Bob Kroll, the police union president, citing a since-repealed 1994 state law that briefly granted Minneapolis the authority to require all new city employees to live where they work. And they never came back.
Each officer has his or her own reason for living outside the city, Kroll said. Some move away because of cost of living and school considerations, while others want to avoid having off-duty run-ins with people they arrest.
In the late 1990s, the union led a successful push to limit the power of Minneapolis and St. Paul to make their employees live where they work.
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Kroll is not one of the people whose home zip code is within city limits.
aquamarina
(1,865 posts)describes perfectly what is wrong with most cultures inside police departments. Blame everyone except for yourselves. Police departments have had decades to clean house and weed out their 'very few" bad apples but haven't done so. Instead they defend and excuse and defend and excuse. Pathetic.
MyOwnPeace
(16,920 posts)NO, YOU FUCKING FOOL!!!!!!
A police officer killing a man with his knee on the neck of a man who had "the wrong skin color" is what led to this "record breaking riot!"
It is blindness like this that is going to allow the abuse of peoples' rights to continue until we have leadership in administrative and legislative positions that will finally take action to bring it to an end.
uponit7771
(90,304 posts)Hekate
(90,565 posts)Trump said Minnesota is "the laughing stock of the world" -- where have we heard this before?
Trump sounds more like a tin-pot dictator all the time, and this guy is right there with him.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,852 posts)... FOR the people, MF'er!
If you don't like it, step down or be STEPPED ON!
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)I do not want to pay his damn salary anymore. This fucker has been a shitstain on Minneapolis for far too long.
sop
(10,106 posts)Kroll does not write a single word about the despicable police act caught on video, the one that set off this uprising. The so-called "terrorist movement" Kroll claims has been growing for years is a direct response to terrorist policing tactics that police union bosses like him have enabled and defended for so many years.
I'm all for police unions engaging in collective bargaining for things like better wages, retirement benefits and improved working conditions, but police unions can no longer be allowed to dictate policing tactics and policies. Police unions are holding a loaded gun to the heads of elected leaders, threatening all manner of dire consequences if they are held accountable for illegal acts. We can no longer negotiate with these terrorists.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)The terrorist movement that is burning the city is outside instigators emboldened by Trump and Kroll and other white supremacists.
sarisataka
(18,501 posts)The MPD would see an immediate 15% improvement.
He is the wall that blocks every attempt at reforming the department
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)He needs to go and now.
mshasta
(2,108 posts)This is why, they are the root of the problem.
DBoon
(22,340 posts)Now what happened to the Teamsters because they were also aligned with organized crime?
Perhaps it is time to put some police unions under federal receivership.
mn9driver
(4,420 posts)He hates the Chief, the City Council, the Mayor and the Governor. He also hates the liberal city that his Union is supposed to protect.
I am a proud Union member and support labor rights, but this guy is poison. The Minneapolis cops need to have a recall vote and get rid of him.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)This needs to be broadcast everywhere.
Cognitive_Resonance
(1,546 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,766 posts)Blue Owl
(50,291 posts)Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,546 posts)Which is "Us against Them" and them is anyone not a member of the force.....
spanone
(135,795 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,578 posts)Hav
(5,969 posts)at the top of the police union. Particularly after the recent events, it's a joke that anyone should even accept that a white supremacist can be the president of the police union. It's a slap in the face.
So much wrong in this letter even besides blaming Floyd which will go down well. This is fanning the flames at a remarkable level. He's part of the problem.
But there's also this suggestion in the letter that the use of lethal force would have been a factor in ending the protests sooner. This guy shouldn't be in charge of anything.
Maybe all those good cops shouldn't vote to be represented by white supremacists.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Could not care less about the "incident" other than damage control.